That was McCain's (and others') sophistry: It's not "amnesty" because they pay a fine (but in 2007 they put in provisions so the illegals could wiggle out of even that).
Posted on 04/25/2010 7:08:12 PM PDT by sickoflibs
It`s gut check time for the Obama administration and the Congress. Senator Lindsey Graham and Senator Chuck Schumer in New York have drafted the outline for an immigration bill which calls for illegal immigrants to admit, number one, that they broke the law. They`d have to pay a fine, along with back taxes, and perform community service if they want to move towards legal status in the country....
At the same time, we need to come together and grant some sort of amnesty for these 10 to 20 -- how many of them are -- undocumented workers already here in the country. They`re not going away. The problem is not going away.
And I think that if he does, how about this for a plan? We`ve got a lot of experts on illegal immigration. How about if you`re in the United States right now, we have Amnesty Day, you`re declared an American, you`re legal? If you`re on our soil, you`re legal?
Do you know what that would do to the tax base? Gosh, all these righties who want cheap labor, they`d actually have to pay minimum wage. This would level the playing field for small businesses across the country, and a lot of people would fall by the wayside, and we would certainly change the landscape of labor in this country and it would make the progressive movement in this country a lot stronger.
This is going to take a lot of guts by the Democrats in the Congress. Don`t count on the Republicans. They`re not going to be there. I don`t believe that you`re going to find the 11 that voted for it before to come back and help out President Obama.
President Obama has a chance to really change the economy and change the landscape of this illegal immigration issue for good. And, of course, with Amnesty Day, what do you say we really protect the border the way we`re supposed to?
Aren`t we concerned about national security? Tea Partiers, where are you? Don`t you want to keep the illegals out? But if the undocumented workers are here, isn`t this what America is all about?
Get your cell phones out, folks. I want to know what you think about this tonight.
Tonight`s tech survey question is: Do you believe all undocumented workers currently in the United States should be granted citizenship? Text "A" for yes and text "B" for no to 622639. We`ll bring you the results later on in the show.
I do understand what you are saying and would agree; but I think they have moved to a new level which is very dangerous for them.
“if you are against the bill, you will be again called a racist bigot!”
Gee....that will keep me up nights....
OK. They have to pay a fine. How big a fine? How about their share of the US Debt? That would be about $300,000 a person. That would prove that they are worthy of being here.
“Do you know what that would do to the tax base? “
Do you know what that would do to the welfare system caseload, to give 10-20 million people making marginal wages ready for all govt bennies????
higher taxes, deficits and a ‘structural’ democrat majority to insist on keeping the system going...
ARGENTINA - Look it up.
Bankruptcy awaits!
“Close the southern border with Mexico now, or the American people will. This is exactly what is making obumbum $hit his knickers! He can invision all fifty states in the United States adopting the same immigration law Arizona just signed into law and that has him and his ilk scared to death! “
Yes, the dumb $hit never counted on my home state giving him the finger. He is just dumb enough to start trouble here. If he does....LOOK OUT !!
“I think Graham-nesty was looking for ANY excuse to get out of being the lone R vote for this. “
It was more to help McCain. I’m sure McCain was praying amnessty didn’t surface until after november. McCain is running out of luck for the first time in his extraordinarily lucky life.
My vote for director of homeland security is AuntB!
B U M P
They would not vote legally this year even if amnesty passed (although amnesty might encourage them to vote illegally). I would guess it would take 10 years for millions of formerly illegal voters to become citizens. But 10 years is too soon for that despicable swindle, which should never be allowed.
And I don't assume they would vote for Dems; they might vote for imported political parties worse than Dems. But make no mistake: amnesty would eventually ensure permanent leftist control of all branches of covernment.
Yes. That is why they vote republican ...
not ....
That was McCain's (and others') sophistry: It's not "amnesty" because they pay a fine (but in 2007 they put in provisions so the illegals could wiggle out of even that).
“They would not vote legally this year even if amnesty passed (although amnesty might encourage them to vote illegally). “
Of course they would vote. LaRaza & SEIU would convince many of them that they now have nothing to fear.
"If you get caught, say you thought amnesty included voting rights."
“”If you get caught, say you thought amnesty included voting rights.”
“Why you stop me? Prezent Bama sez izz okay”
Oh, I’m born already and I’ll be paying for it for the next 40 years.
I see how it helps McCain but I also think Graham is getting cold feet.
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“... they have moved to a new level which is very dangerous for them.”
Who is “they” - and what is “dangerous for them”. I don’t understand your comment.
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