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Obama Orders DOJ To Challenge Ariz. Immigration Law
Judicial Watch ^ | 4/26/2010

Posted on 04/26/2010 10:53:19 AM PDT by Seńor Zorro

Last Updated: Mon, 04/26/2010 - 10:43am

The ink is barely dry on Arizona’s new immigration control law and President Obama has already threatened to take legal action against the measure even though it was adopted from the federal statute that’s rarely enforced.

Amid huge protests and cries of racism from the open-borders movement, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed the law (SB1070) that bans “sanctuary city” policies and makes it a state crime to be in the U.S. without proper documentation. Some federal and state lawmakers claim the measure amounts to institutionalized discrimination and abuse that will lead to the arrest of seniors, kids and tourists.

Obama, who tried pressuring Brewer into vetoing the “misguided” law, assures that it threatens civil rights and undermines basic notions of fairness and trust between police and their communities. The commander-in-chief has ordered the Department of Justice to challenge its legality and vows to “closely monitor the situation” and examine the legislation’s civil rights implications.

The law marks an unprecedented effort by a state to take immigration matters into its own hands since immigration offenses are currently violations of federal law that cannot be enforced by local police. But lawmakers in Arizona are fed up with the enormous toll that hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens are having on their state as the feds sit idly by and fail to secure the southern border.

When the measure goes into effect later this year illegal aliens will be charged in state court with trespassing and anyone—documented or undocumented—seeking work from a road or sidewalk will also be criminally prosecuted. Drivers who pick up illegal alien day laborers will also be punished and all residents must provide evidence of their legal status in the U.S.

When Brewer signed the law last week she pointed out that the new state crime of willful failure to complete or carry an alien registration document was adopted verbatim from the federal statute. Furthermore, it will be implemented in a manner consistent with federal laws regulating immigration, protecting the civil rights of all persons and respecting the privileges and immunities of the United States, the governor said.

“We in Arizona have been more than patient waiting for Washington to act,” Brewer said during a signing ceremony. “But decades of federal inaction and misguided policy have created a dangerous and unacceptable situation.” She added that the new law represents a much-needed tool to solve a crisis the state did not create and the federal government refuses to fix.



TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; bho44; bhodoj; bhofascism; bhotreason; bhotyranny; democratcorruption; democrats; doj; donttreadonme; electionfraud; hey0stfu; illegalimmigration; immigration; liberalfascism; obama; obamabrownshirts; obamavoters; voterfraud
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To: RobRoy

Bump that


51 posted on 04/26/2010 12:44:42 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: kbennkc

Good one.


52 posted on 04/26/2010 12:46:13 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: RobRoy

Excerpt that it doesn’t appear to be a part of the US Code:

http://law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/usc_sec_08_00001324——000-.html

In 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) there are no subdivisions at all, much less (b)(iii).


53 posted on 04/26/2010 12:48:30 PM PDT by savedbygrace (Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord)
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To: savedbygrace

You mean someone made it up?


54 posted on 04/26/2010 12:49:36 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: savedbygrace

Yikes. You’re right. Looks like either a typo or BS.


55 posted on 04/26/2010 12:57:18 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Kimberly GG

You are wrong. When asked for her attitude regarding illegal aliens, Sarah said, “well, they’re illegal, aren’t they?

Who did the Arizona governor choose to spend the day with after signing this bill? Who was standing tall right next to her for the photographers at the game? Yep, it was Sarah.


56 posted on 04/26/2010 12:57:24 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: RobRoy

Unless the reference location is a typo. I didn’t search 8 USC to try to find it elsewhere. But that reference simply does not exist, as you can see with your own eyes.

This article also came up in a search:

http://blog.law.cornell.edu/tbruce/2009/10/19/hey-joe-whaddaya-know/


57 posted on 04/26/2010 12:57:46 PM PDT by savedbygrace (Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord)
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To: savedbygrace

That’s VERY interesting.


58 posted on 04/26/2010 1:03:16 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: savedbygrace; RobRoy
In 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) there are no subdivisions at all, much less (b)(iii).

I can't find it from those references either. I'd like to see the correct link to this, to post on my Facebook page.

59 posted on 04/26/2010 1:03:36 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Through the annals of time, there has been the Judas kiss, the Brutus stab, and now, the Obama bow.)
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To: RC2

Here is the case for realistic conservative leadership. In a calm and diplomatic way, if we had true leadership, it could be explained to the knee-jerk public that Mexicans are not a race. It’s true and simple.

We do not have such leadership, what we have are elected officials who are too cowardly to stand up and make the argument based on facts.

Giving the left what they want is a loser, no matter how you spin it as such.


60 posted on 04/26/2010 1:05:23 PM PDT by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: greyfoxx39

Looks like it may be a textbook example of internet baloney.


61 posted on 04/26/2010 1:07:05 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: SeƱor Zorro

If Obama doesn’t like the law, then it can’t be bad, can it? Hm?


62 posted on 04/26/2010 1:14:02 PM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: TornadoAlley3; RobRoy; savedbygrace

TornadoAlley3 -

Please come join this thread.

Everyone here is wanting to know where you got your verbiage from 8 USC 1324 that you used recently here on a thread concerning Arizona’s new immigration law. No one can find it despite searching a number of sites that have the content of 8 USC 1324. Please tell us where the quote came from if you saved the source. Thanks.

The specific quote is:

Federal Immigration and Nationality Act
Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)

State and local law enforcement officials have the general power to investigate and arrest violators of federal immigration statutes without prior INS knowledge or approval, as long as they are authorized to do so by state law. There is no extant federal limitation on this authority. The 1996 immigration control legislation passed by Congress was intended to encourage states and local agencies to participate in the process of enforcing federal immigration laws. Immigration officers and local law enforcement officers may detain an individual for a brief warrantless interrogation where circumstances create a reasonable suspicion that the individual is illegally present in the U.S. Specific facts constituting a reasonable suspicion include evasive, nervous, or erratic behavior; dress or speech indicating foreign citizenship; and presence in an area known to contain a concentration of illegal aliens.


63 posted on 04/26/2010 1:18:27 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Windflier; Natural Born 54

blah, blah, blah, you betcha I’m ticked. I’m sick to death of the lies....we can NO LONGER allow fence sitters or hidden agendas.... my only motive is the TRUTH.

Does she, or does she not support PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AMNESTY?

“I DO”. Her words, not mine.


64 posted on 04/26/2010 1:39:11 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: SeƱor Zorro
Well if this is the same state - my memory couldn't be that bad, could it - which caught heck for requiring candidates for the presidency to provide birth certificates before getting on the ballot,

just think how the whiners will feel if the State of Arizona passes a law
making it illegal for an elector to vote for Barak Hussein Obama
in 2012!

Think that would be outrageous? Read the Constitution, as noted by SCOTUS in reference to Bush v. Gore:

Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.
Quite simply, the Arizona Legislature holds it in its discretion whether or not to hold an election to determine the electors - let alone whether a given individual is or is not on the ballot if they do hold a presidential election.

65 posted on 04/26/2010 1:42:32 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ( DRAFT PALIN)
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To: RobRoy
Looks like it may be a textbook example of internet baloney.

I'm glad I didn't post it on Facebook for my SIL-Obama-voter-Jon Stewart-idolater to take potshots at. ;)

66 posted on 04/26/2010 1:49:43 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Through the annals of time, there has been the Judas kiss, the Brutus stab, and now, the Obama bow.)
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To: Kimberly GG

Do you have a link to that quote? I remember it coming up before and I think I remember that it was taken out of context. I think I remember that the full quote made it clear that she did not support amnesty as it is commonly defined. Not at all. I am interested in truth as well and am not into blindly supporting someone. If I am wrong, I’d like to know.


67 posted on 04/26/2010 1:52:20 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Natural Born 54
Not a chance. If the case goes to court, it will be because they found a judge that will rule in the Feds’ favor.
A judge, maybe - but there's only one SCOTUS, and I would hope that it would take an appeal of an adverse lower court ruling with alacrity.

68 posted on 04/26/2010 1:55:22 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ( DRAFT PALIN)
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To: SeƱor Zorro

We’re headed for another Civil War.


69 posted on 04/26/2010 2:17:01 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (No Romney,No Mark Kirk (Illinois), not now, not ever!)
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To: Kimberly GG
Does she, or does she not support PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AMNESTY?

You're obviously unhinged because you're operating on false data, or misunderstandings of some sort.

First of all, there's no such thing as a, "path to citizenship amnesty". You're conflating two different terms.

There is a so-called path to citizenship which is already contained in our immigration and naturalization laws. Any foreign citizen can get in line and start the process of coming to America legally.

Then, there's amnesty for illegal aliens. This country has passed amnesty bills for illegals at least twice that I know of - the first in 1965, and the second, passed in 1986 during the term of Ronald Reagan.

These are two completely different things, although the last proposed Immigration Reform Bill may have made changes to our existing legal immigration policy. That, I suspect, is the "path to citizenship" that you're enraged with.

Personally, I'm in agreement with making some changes to our current immigration process, but I don't think there's any need to change the laws regarding immigration. What needs to change is the timescale of the process. It takes much too long, in my opinion. It's a bottleneck that encourages people to simply "skip the line" and just come here anyway.

As I told you before, Sarah Palin's comments about her position on illegal immigration have been posted here hundreds of times, and it's clear that she supports LEGAL immigration, not ILLEGAL immigration.

I encourage you to go back and read her exact comments. Nowhere will you see that she supports amnesty for illegals, or illegal immigration.

70 posted on 04/26/2010 2:22:59 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rovenstinez

Well, his Aunt would have to go back to Kenya if she visited Phoenix, that´s HIS problem.

Ha Ha

Good one!!!!!!!!!


71 posted on 04/26/2010 2:30:51 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: SeƱor Zorro

Just in time for the 2010 elections.


72 posted on 04/26/2010 2:32:21 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Ā“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: SeƱor Zorro

The irony is that it’s only because Obama won that this happened. If McCain won, Napolitano would still be the Governor and the law never would have been signed.

Maybe hispanics should have thought of that before they voted en masse for Obama.


73 posted on 04/26/2010 2:37:30 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: SeƱor Zorro
The Constitution states that the President "shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed."

If Obama was doing his duty, the Arizona law wouldn't have been needed in the first place.

74 posted on 04/26/2010 3:30:54 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Windflier

You can slice it and dice it any way you choose...FORGIVING the OFFENSE of illegal entry by giving ANY illegal alien ANY opportunity for ANY path to citizenship IS AMNESTY.

Have you ever heard any Republican, or Dem for that matter, ADMIT that they are FOR “amnesty for illegal aliens”? Of course not.

We’ve learned NOTHING if we haven’t learned after all these years that “comprehensive immigration reform” and a “path to citizenship” are nothing but code for AMNESTY.

Most of us recognize that fact. The only people who deny it are the people who support it, in which case discussing it is a complete waste of time.


75 posted on 04/26/2010 3:49:53 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Natural Born 54

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/22/palin-i-support-a-path-to-citizenship-for-illegals/comment-page-2/

Most ALL politicians SAY they oppose amnesty....right before they make the case FOR it...just as she did. There isn’t anything in her statements then or now that is any different than what Bush, McCain, Thompson, Romney, Huckabee, or the rest of the pro-amnesty candidates have said.

I take that back...she forgot to use the boo hoo descriptive, “hard working”.


76 posted on 04/26/2010 4:23:34 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Kimberly GG

She was McCain’s running mate and could not come out against one of his positions. Since he was for amnesty, she could not outright say “let ‘em go home and get in line” but she came as close as she could to saying that. To hang your hat on this statement is short sighted. Keep an open mind and wait till she gives a position statement IF she decides to run. For God’s sake, she was really between a rock and a hard place - the date was 10/22/2008 - in the heat of the campaign.

Thank you for providing the link.


77 posted on 04/26/2010 4:36:17 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Kimberly GG
FORGIVING the OFFENSE of illegal entry by giving ANY illegal alien ANY opportunity for ANY path to citizenship IS AMNESTY.

Who ever said anything about "forgiving" illegal alien trespassers or putting them on an automatic conveyor belt to legal citizenship?

Giving someone who's previously broken our immigration laws a chance to go home and come back into this country via the legal immigration route is not amnesty.

Different terms have different definitions. Look them up if you have to. The terms you're throwing around have distinctly different definitions, and mean different things.

I think you're making yourself nuts over things that no one has even suggested, with the possible exception of McAmnesty & Grahamnesty. Palin has certainly never suggested any such thing.

78 posted on 04/26/2010 5:06:47 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
THE ATTRITION SOLUTION - Rep. Steve King

"I emphatically disagree with statements Sen. Mel Martinez made recently to the Washington Times ("New RNC chief backs bill with guest-worker plan" Page 1, Feb. 2). Mr. Martinez wants to grant illegal aliens a "path to citizenship." This represents nothing less than endorsement of a mass amnesty for many millions of illegal aliens. Americans reject mass amnesty by large margins. Amnesty is an affront to native-born Americans, to legal immigrants, and to the very concept of the rule of law.

Amnesty can be dressed up as "earned legalization," "going to the back of the line" or a "path to citizenship," but it is still amnesty. Do we give bank robbers "earned plunder" or make them "go to the end of the line" to get their pillage or a "path towards keeping their prize"? Consider two brothers living in Mexico City. One came to the United States illegally. The other stayed in Mexico and supports his family there. Mr. Martinez would grant the brother who broke our laws permanent residence and then citizenship in our country. He would grant no such prizes to the brother who stayed in Mexico. This is the worst kind of amnesty -- it grants huge benefits that are reserved only for those who have broken our laws. "......

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/feb/11/20070211-102906-4055r/
79 posted on 04/26/2010 10:17:48 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Kimberly GG

I don’t agree with the concept of automatically enrolling a deported illegal alien in a “path to citizenship” program.

That seems to be what Mel Martinez wanted to do. It’s as disagreeable to American citizens as Rep. Steve King says it is. Totally agree.

My idea is to send them back to their country of origin and leave the choice of re-entering the US legally to them. If they’re willing to “go to the end of the line” and do the hard work of gaining real US citizenship, then I don’t have a problem with that.

On the other hand, our immigration laws may not permit a foreigner who’s previously committed crimes in the US to qualify for US citizenship. It may be a moot point. If that’s how our immigration law is constructed, then deported illegals are SOL, and I’m fine with that, too.


80 posted on 04/26/2010 10:35:21 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Kimberly GG

Hey Kim, I just thought of something else that’s relevant to what we’re talking about.

It’s this phrase, “pathway to citizenship”.

We law-abiding, patriotic Americans have one understanding of what that phrase means, and the liberals and RINOs have a very different definition of it.

When I hear the phrase, “pathway to citizenship”, I immediately think of our long established and legal immigration and naturalization process.

What liberals and RINOs mean when they say that phrase is something more along the lines of the amnesty bill that we beat back two years ago.

That bill would have made changes to our immigration laws and created a fast-track program for illegals in the US to almost immediately become de facto US citizens. In all but name, it was an amnesty, and the American people correctly saw it as such.

All good Americans want the former “path to citizenship”, and vehemently oppose the latter.


81 posted on 04/26/2010 10:59:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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