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Ron Paul: Don't call Obama a Socialist
www.thedailycrux.com ^ | April 27, 2010 | Rep. Ron Paul

Posted on 04/27/2010 8:48:27 AM PDT by Comrade Brother Abu Bubba

Lately many have characterized this administration as socialist, or having strong socialist leanings. I differ with this characterization. This is not to say Mr. Obama believes in free-markets by any means. On the contrary, he has done and said much that demonstrates his fundamental misunderstanding and hostility towards the truly free market. But a closer, honest examination of his policies and actions in office reveals that, much like the previous administration, he is very much a corporatist. This in many ways can be more insidious and worse than being an outright socialist.

Socialism is a system where the government directly owns and manages businesses. Corporatism is a system where businesses are nominally in private hands, but are in fact controlled by the government. In a corporatist state, government officials often act in collusion with their favored business interests to design polices that give those interests a monopoly position, to the detriment of both competitors and consumers.

A careful examination of the policies pursued by the Obama administration and his allies in Congress shows that their agenda is corporatist.

Obama's “cap-and-trade” legislation provides subsidies and specials privileges to large businesses that engage in “carbon trading.” This is why large corporations, such as General Electric support cap-and-trade.

Using precise terms can prevent future statists from successfully blaming the inevitable failure of their programs on the remnants of the free market that are still allowed to exist. We must not allow the disastrous results of corporatism to be ascribed incorrectly to free market capitalism or used as a justification for more government expansion. Most importantly, we must learn what freedom really is and educate others on how infringements on our economic liberties caused our economic woes in the first place. Government is the problem; it cannot be the solution.

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When Ron Paul returned to the Republican party (he ran for President against George Herbert Walker Bush (No. 41) as a Libertarian Presidential Candidate in 1988, he was opposed for the Texas Congressional seat by a "turncoat Democrat" who was supported by former Pres. Bush Sr.(No. 41) while Ron Paul received an endorsement from legendary Texan Hall of Fame pitcher, Nolan Ryan. Needless to say, Ron Paul was elected by the people (Real Texans, not some carpetbagging patrician "New World Order" Race to the Bottom, Country Club Rockefeller Republican) Representative Ron Paul. Ron Paul will probably never have an airport named after him like Bush Sr, he possesses common sense.

"A careful examination of the policies pursued by the Obama administration and his allies in Congress shows that their agenda is corporatist. For example, the health care bill that recently passed does not establish a Canadian-style government-run single-payer health care system. Instead, it relies on mandates forcing every American to purchase private health insurance or pay a fine. It also includes subsidies for low-income Americans and government-run health care “exchanges.” Contrary to the claims of the proponents of the health care bill, large insurance and pharmaceutical companies were enthusiastic supporters of many provisions of this legislation because they knew in the end their bottom lines would be enriched by Obamacare."

1 posted on 04/27/2010 8:48:27 AM PDT by Comrade Brother Abu Bubba
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To: Comrade Brother Abu Bubba

Wow. You posted it three times! That might be a FR record!


2 posted on 04/27/2010 8:50:27 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Comrade Brother Abu Bubba

Déjà vu


3 posted on 04/27/2010 8:51:12 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Comrade Brother Abu Bubba

And, Dr. Paul, what is it called, when no one officially examines whether a candidate is constitutionally qualified to be U.S. President — not even you?


4 posted on 04/27/2010 8:51:26 AM PDT by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: Comrade Brother Abu Bubba

He’s fairly correct here, however it’s interesting he chooses “Coporatist” instead of Fascist, which is really the correct term.

Is “Corporatist” even a word?

Can it be that even Ron Paul is afraid to look “too far out there” by using the “F” word?


5 posted on 04/27/2010 8:51:42 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: saganite

Can we at least call him a Marxist? He is a disciple of Saul Alinsky, the Karl Marx of American politics.


6 posted on 04/27/2010 8:52:26 AM PDT by Gen. Burkhalter
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To: saganite

Triple post with a reverse twist!

The judges give it a 9.3!


7 posted on 04/27/2010 8:52:58 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (http://www.teapartyslogans.com/cgi-bin/web/index.cgi)
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To: Comrade Brother Abu Bubba

wasn’t this out last week???


8 posted on 04/27/2010 8:53:49 AM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd,you get no further than the crowd")
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To: Comrade Brother Abu Bubba

Corporatist is a nice way of saying “fascist.”

Wrong again Paul.


9 posted on 04/27/2010 8:54:49 AM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: Pessimist

He’s right on this one. Fascist might be more descriptive but it might appear more like name calling and be ignored more easily. But the definition given in the article for “corporatism” matches fascism to a ‘T’.

Maybe corporatism is to fascism as socialism is to communism...


10 posted on 04/27/2010 8:54:58 AM PDT by Pantera
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To: ConservaTexan

Déjà vu of Déjà vu I say! ;-)


11 posted on 04/27/2010 8:55:51 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Comrade Brother Abu Bubba

How can anybody trust libertarians when their favorite
“son” loads up legislation that he knows will pass and
gives the pork while giggling “I voted against it.”?


12 posted on 04/27/2010 8:55:56 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: Pantera

Regardless, corporatism, fascism, socialism or communism...ultimately the end game is all the same and we all know how this story ends.


13 posted on 04/27/2010 8:59:15 AM PDT by Paco
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To: Grunthor

exactly what my first thought


14 posted on 04/27/2010 9:00:03 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Comrade Brother Abu Bubba
Socialism is a system where the government directly owns and manages businesses. Corporatism is a system where businesses are nominally in private hands, but are in fact controlled by the government.

Soooo, does that mean we have to start saying "Copratist China?"

15 posted on 04/27/2010 9:00:27 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: 240B

exactly what my first thought


16 posted on 04/27/2010 9:00:50 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: 240B

exactly what my first thought


17 posted on 04/27/2010 9:01:04 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Comrade Brother Abu Bubba

Haiku Guy: Don’t call Ron Paul an Idiot...


18 posted on 04/27/2010 9:01:48 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gov. Chris Christie (R) won the NJ-6 held by Rep. Frank Pallone (D) by a 15.5% margin!)
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To: Paco

Add monarchism and oligarchy to that list and you’re done.


19 posted on 04/27/2010 9:01:51 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (Dear Leader: you have two ears and one mouth. Start using them in proportion.)
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To: Paco
Exactly...Regardless, corporatism, fascism, socialism or communism...ultimately the end game is all the same and we all know how this story ends.
20 posted on 04/27/2010 9:02:32 AM PDT by Pantera
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To: Comrade Brother Abu Bubba

ONCE IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!


21 posted on 04/27/2010 9:02:48 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: Pantera
Maybe corporatism is to fascism as socialism is to communism...

Someone really needs to sit Dr Paul down and explain this all to him. Corporatism is minor form of Fascism which is a form of Socialism which taken to it's ultimate extreme, turns into Communism.

They are all variations of the same thing.

22 posted on 04/27/2010 9:03:08 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (he problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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