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Pics, Video From Alleged Noah's Ark Find
Dakota Voice ^ | April 27, 2010 | By Bob Ellis

Posted on 04/27/2010 1:02:13 PM PDT by Fennie

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51 posted on 04/28/2010 5:55:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: numberonepal

I think he probably had more than enough “cow pies” to burn for fuel for a WHILE... Don’t you?


52 posted on 04/28/2010 6:02:02 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: SunkenCiv

I thought about pinging you on this a couple of days ago, but didn’t know if you had a limit on Noah’s Ark finds . . .


53 posted on 04/28/2010 6:03:44 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Theo
anyone who knows anything about boats and ‘floating’ knows that in high seas and raging winds, a curved boat will fare much better - it's a matter of aerodynamics - allowing the force to be deflected -

If they hit a straight side, the force on it is much stronger...

I have no way of knowing, but I suspect GOD knew this and instructed Noah correctly - why bother to have him build a boat that would be more prone to capsizing at worst, to much harder buffeting, at least?

Just my humble thoughts on it.

54 posted on 04/28/2010 6:35:56 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Persevero
“Was Everest also covered?

Greco-Roman and Chinese accounts of the flood speak of handfuls of animals and people surviving here and there on mountain tops and anything which could float for the better part of a year but I'd assume that most of today's animals owe their existence to Noah.

55 posted on 04/28/2010 6:41:31 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: SunkenCiv

If this one’s a hoax it’s a hell of an elaborate one...


56 posted on 04/28/2010 6:42:15 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Nightshift

gnip


57 posted on 04/28/2010 7:34:28 PM PDT by tutstar (g)
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Two questions come to mind: one, where was the RC testing done (and BTW, as a disclaimer, I don’t believe any RC testing WAS done), and two, well, everyone should be able to figure it out for themselves.


58 posted on 04/28/2010 7:42:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: wendy1946

[snip] “Haji Yearam’ s parents and family lived at the foot of Greater Mount Ararat in Armenia. According to their traditions, they were descended directly from those who had come out of the ark, but who had never migrated from that country. The descendants of Ham and his sympathizers had migrated over into the land of Shinar and built the tower of Babel, and others had migrated to other countries, but Haji’s forebearers had always remained near the mount where the ark had come to rest in a little valley surrounded by some small peaks about three-quarters or more up on the mountain.

“For several hundred years after the flood his forebearers had made yearly pilgrimages up to the ark to make sacrifices and to worship there. They had a good trail and steps in the steep places. Finally the enemies of God undertook to go to Ararat and destroy the ark, but as they neared the location there came a terrible storm that washed away the trail, and lightening blasted the rocks. From that time on, even the pilgrimages ceased, because they feared to betray the way to the ungodly and feared God’ s wrath. They took that terrible storm to be a token that God did not want the ark disturbed until near the end of the world, when they believed that its presence would be revealed to the whole world. However, the tribesmen there handed down the legends from generation to generation, and from time to time lonely shepherds or hunters In very hot summers came back with stories that they had reached the little valley and had actually seen one end of the ark where it had been made visible by the melting of snow and ice.

“When Haji was a large boy, but not yet a man fully grown, there came to his home some strangers. If I remember correctly there were three vile men who did not believe the Bible and did not believe in the existence of a personal God. They were scientists and evolutionists. They were on this expedition specifically to prove the legend of Noah’s Ark to be a fraud and a fake. They hired the father of young Haji Yearam as their official guide. (Haji at that time had not yet become a Haji, and was just a large boy). They hired the boy to assist his father as guide.

“It was an unusually hot summer, so the snow and glaciers had melted more than usual. The Armenians were very reticent to undertake any expedition to the Ark because they feared God’s displeasure, but the father of Haji thought that possibly the time had come when God wanted the world to know the ark was still there and he wanted to prove to those atheists that the Bible story of the flood and the Ark is true.

“After extreme hardship and peril the party came to the little valley up on Greater Ararat, not on the very top, but a little down from the top. This little valley is surrounded by a number of small peaks. There the ark came to rest in a little lake, and the peaks protected it from the tidal waves that rushed back and forth as the flood subsided. On one side of the valley the water from the melting snows and glacier spills over in a little river that runs down the mountain As they reached this spot, there they found the prow of a mighty ship protruding out of the ice. They went inside the ark and did considerable exploring. It was divided into many floors and stages and compartments and had bars like animal cages of today. The whole structure was covered with a varnish or lacquer that was very thick and strong, both outside and inside the ship. The ship was built more like a great and mighty house on the hull of a ship, but without any windows. There was a great doorway of immense size, but the door was missing. The scientists were appalled and dumbfounded and went into a Satanic rage at finding what they had hoped to prove nonexistent. They were so angry and mad that they said they would destroy the ship, but the wood was more like stone than any wood we have now. They did not have tools or means to wreck so mighty a ship and had to give it up. They did tear out some timbers and tried to burn the wood, but it was so hard it was almost impossible to burn it.

“They held a council, and then took a solemn and fearful death oath. Any man present who would ever breathe a word about what they had found would be tortured and murdered.” (Cummings, 1972; pg.190-192; emphasis ours). [unsnip]

[snip] An elderly Armenian named Haji Yearam, who later came to America, told of visiting the ark on Ararat in 1856 in the company of his father (who himself had gone there often as a boy) and three atheistic scientists. Their goal in visiting Ararat was to disprove the ark’s existence. According to Yearam, the scientists were so enraged at discovering the ark that they tried to destroy it at first. But since they could not (it was too big and had petrified) they swore to keep silent about their find. This was the story Yearam told. The man to whom he told it adds the following corroborative detail. “One evening (I’m pretty sure it was in 1918) I sat reading the daily paper in our apartment in Brockton. Suddenly I saw in very small print a short story of a dying man’s confession.

It was a news item one column wide and, as I remembered it, not more than two inches deep. It stated that an elderly scientist on his deathbed in London was afraid to die before making a terrible confession. It gave briefly the very date and facts that Haji Yearam related to us in his story.”... [unsnip]

[snip] In 1880, Haji Yearam, a teenage boy who lived at the foot of Mount Ararat, met three men who hired him and his father to guide them to the ark. The group found the ark and explored it.

In later years, Haji moved to the United States and told his story to a Seventh Day Adventist preacher by the name of Harold H. Williams who then lived in Logansport, Indiana. Preacher Williams later told the following story. He said that in 1918 he was reading the daily paper and saw a small article stating that an old scientist wished to make a dying confession. The scientist told the very date and very facts that Haji had earlier related to him. The scientist had not believed in God, so he had never told the story of his exploration of the ark but now on his death bed he wished to clear his conscience. The scientist died in London, England.

Williams then said, “When the scientists on the other side of the earth told the same story, identical in every point, I then knew positively that Haji’s story was true.” [unsnip]

[however: http://bibleprobe.com/noahark-timeline.htm ]


59 posted on 04/28/2010 8:05:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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from the wayback machine, “Noah’s Ark”:

http://web.archive.org/web/20070403023854/http://www.baseinstitute.org/noaharkpics1.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20060718015013/http://www.baseinstitute.org/0353sArk.jpg
http://web.archive.org/web/20070302231116/http://www.baseinstitute.org/0353-in2_Ark.jpg


60 posted on 04/28/2010 8:09:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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whoops.
61 posted on 04/28/2010 8:11:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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noah's ark site:freerepublic.com
Google
A bunch of hits, all about this latest.
62 posted on 04/28/2010 8:14:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Fennie

The Ark?

Hah!

*I* found something much more impressive and utterly incredible!

I found a genuine, 100% REAL RINO spine!!

:)


63 posted on 04/28/2010 8:17:03 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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for starters:
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64 posted on 04/28/2010 8:18:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Thumper1960
I found a genuine, 100% REAL RINO spine!!

They're not that hard to find. They're always new, in the package, unused and pristine!

65 posted on 04/28/2010 8:21:42 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum
The ChiComs found it?

They'll use the hoax as athiest propaganda.

yitbos

66 posted on 04/28/2010 8:27:20 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: maine-iac7
"This photo, of this 'room' buried under thousands of years worth of ice, looks like the inside of a hull - notice the gradual curving"

In Pine Valley, Utah is the oldest Mormon Church in continuous use.

The builder was a shipwright. For the roof he built an inverted ship's hull.

yitbos

67 posted on 04/28/2010 8:37:14 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: bruinbirdman
There are buildings like that in England -

When ships were no longer seaworthy, they were most often sold for their lumber - and oft times, the hulls were simply turned upside down and, voila, the roof.

This photo is a barn roof in England, thought to be from a ship found 'not sea worthy' in 1624.

this roof is thought to be the hull of that ship - the Mayflower...which, at the time, was not 'famous', just a worn out ship. ;o) The great crossbeam even has a crack in it - which coincides with the crack in the beam of the Mayflower during a hurricane that threatened to send them to the bottom of the sea, halfway across the Atlantic.

They were able to shore it up with 'a grew screw' someone had on board.

I suspicion that may have been from Elder Wm Brewster's printing press he had in Holland - where he, clandestinely, printed 'seditious' tracks against the crown, including the infamous "Perth Assembly" - that had the crown put a reward on his head and had their Pinkerton detectives crisscrossing England and Holland in pursuit of him.

He had to be smuggled into England and aboard the Mayflower for what, many decades later, became "history."

68 posted on 04/28/2010 9:08:24 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: maine-iac7
Mount Ararat was most notably Volcanically active around 3000 b.c. and a few times since. You will notice the lava flow covering the wooden beams in some places and actually ending the beams as they burnt through them in attached picture (left center). Hard to plant something like this. Either this is Noah's Ark or an old man-made structure (ref. 1840 volcanic activity) that has been exposed to volcanic activity.
69 posted on 04/28/2010 9:39:11 PM PDT by FootBall
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“Seems Turkey was bent on prohibiting anyone going anywhere near Mt. Ararat.”

I think the Turks can be reasoned with, if you ask them nicely. It takes a bit of work, but it’s doable unless you’re some sort of a nut job.

A good friend of mine does this sort of thing for a living (poking about in different parts of the world for one ark or another). If you like, I will be happy to ask him what it took to get the approvals. No, he didn’t find anything like Noah’s ark up there. He did find some neat marine discoveries lately though. Rather impressive, so if you haven’t heard about it yet, you will.


70 posted on 04/28/2010 9:46:05 PM PDT by Habibi ("It is vain to do with more what can be done with less." - William of Occam)
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To: FootBall

exactly.

The volcanic ash and the thousands of years of ice did a good job of preserving - and attests to the impossibility of it’s been ‘planted.’

that high on up on one of the most inhospitable mountains - weather, lack of vegetation wise - would make it highly unlikely it would have a house structure.


71 posted on 04/28/2010 10:12:29 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Typical Moslem jackasses trying to block any knowledge?

Muslims believe in Noah, too.

72 posted on 04/28/2010 11:03:41 PM PDT by uglybiker (BACON!!)
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To: Rural_Jew

Why can’t the skeptics of the literal account of Noah and the Flood find reason to be excited about a pretty spectacular archeological find? Even if it’s not the Ark, finding a human built structure older than the ice and lava flow that cover it should be reason for Christian and secular alike to be excited.
But most of the non-believers here on FR and in much greater numbers on the DU are hoping this all turns out to be some sophisticated hoax so they can laugh at the silly Christians, and so they can find reason to continue to reject the Gospel.


73 posted on 04/29/2010 12:30:51 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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Scythian was not as far off ("Posted 27 times already") as we might like to think. :') The keyword "noahsark" (minus the first topic, which was about rainfall in Texas) sorted chrono (by hand, not by machine):
74 posted on 04/29/2010 4:06:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Fennie

I just found out my sister knows one of the scientist who discovered the structure, and that the structure being shown has been found some time ago but not by Chinese explorers, and it’s just now hitting the mainstream news when she learned the same montsh ago right from the source. She also said the what is being shown in the media is just part of what they found, and that the ship (and he says it most definitely is a ship) is in two separate sections as if broken in half.
I called my sister tonight and learned a little more than what she wrote in the e-mail to me. Were going to talk more tomorow (Sunday) when we see each other at a family gathering.

My sister rights:

“This has been discovered long before by my friend Dr. Ron Charles. You are seeing just a portion of it in the media. I have heard the personal stories on the discovery directly from him. Very interesting. The discovery was done by Dr. Ron Charles and his exuviating crew. I have a lot of info that I can get. He will be here in June for a few days you are welcome to come and talk with him. He will be at our church he is personal friends with my pastor, I have also had him overnight with his wife here. I have a great book from Dr Ron Charles you should read of all the discoveries he has made.
I have his wife on face book but he has to play it low key because of other things he is involved that is dangerous to be public knowledge.”


75 posted on 05/02/2010 12:43:57 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

YouTube - Noah’s Ark’s Resting Place

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-SVyscYtYY


76 posted on 05/02/2010 7:40:10 AM PDT by Fennie
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To: Rural_Jew
"Believing The Flood actually literally occurred strains credulity."

So, you're not a Torah believing Jew, then.

77 posted on 05/07/2010 2:59:42 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("young people, African-Americans, Latinos and women; teabaggers"-0 Ageist Racist Sexist Homophobic)
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