Skip to comments.Obama administration defies congressional subpoena on Fort Hood documents
Posted on 04/28/2010 5:13:35 AM PDT by highlander_UW
The Obama administration said Tuesday it would provide more information to Congress about the Fort Hood shootings but continued to defy a subpoena request for witness statements and other documents.
After days of negotiations, the Pentagon and Justice Department informed a Senate committee that they would not comply with congressional subpoenas to share investigative records from the Nov. 5 shootings at Fort Hood, Tex., which killed 13 people.
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They do? So, would Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi be the COMMANDER IN CHIEF? Or is it one of those things where all 535 members of Congress takes turns? I don't know because when I walk through the various buildings on base, the top picture is POTUS.
And it's weird because these civilian dudes like SecDef and stuff are in the cabinet of POTUS.
That photo breaks my heart.
Read the constitution. The president is the commander in chief, but Congress has power to REGULATE the military. It’s right in there under powers of Congress.
In other words, they have power to make and enforce US military REGULATIONS.
The most race-centric/racist administration since Hitler's Germany.
They are on record as supporting and protecting Islamo-fascism and terrorism.
It’s awful and this is all the fault of the STUPID STUPID AMERICANS! STUPID AND AM REALLY MAD RIGHT NOW! I WAS LIVID WATCHING THE YANKEES PUT SATAN ON A PEDESTAL THE OTHER DAY WHEN IS SOMEONE GOING TO COME OUT AND CONDEMN THIS DEMON IS RUING THE COUNTRY!
My feelings exactly!
America’s muslum in chief is covering up his terrorist pals once again. I hope the complete idiots that helped elect him are waking up.
And those that still support him are planning to leave the country.
They can bring in the third branch to mediate. As I recall, that’s what it took to make Nixon release the (edited by Woods) Watergate tapes.
To call this merely political correctness is to believe that all of those Communist sympathizers who got into the Obama administration were "accidents" because they weren't properly vetted.
Our president is pro-Islamist. That does not mean that he supported Nadil Hasan's attack but he did not believe his extremist ideology to be the biggest threat this nation faces. Just look at how Obama has called an end to the "war on terror", bowed to Islamic nations (genuine theocracies in outright insult to our nation's foundation that includes recognition of a freedom of religion for ALL people), treated Israel, and whipped up hysteria over tea party "violence" when there has been none (unlike the illegal immigration rallies, anti-prop 8 rallies, "peace" protests of American wars, and even domestic Islamist terrorism that this administration refuses to call "terrorism").
Why don't YOU read the Constitution. Pay close attention to Article I Section 8....
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
Then you can progress onto Article II Section 2. Pay attention here
The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
So, Congress can fund the military, maintain the military, and provide rules for the military. The PRESIDENT is the COMMANDER IN CHIEF. Then grab a dictionary.
com·mand·er /kəˈmændər, -ˈmɑn-/ Show Spelled[kuh-man-der, -mahn-] Show IPA noun
1.a person who commands.
2.a person who exercises authority; chief officer; leader.
What does it mean to exercise authority? Would you be in Control if you exercised your authority?
Well what does it say about "commander in chief?"
commander in chief noun,pluralcommanders in chief.
1.Also, Commander in Chief. the supreme commander of the armed forces of a nation or, sometimes, of several allied nations: The president is the Commander in Chief of the U.S. Army, Navy, and Air Force.
2.an officer in command of a particular portion of an armed force who has been given this title by specific authorization
So, in todays lesson we have learned that YES, The POTUS is in fact in control of the military. He is the sole appointed head of the military. Congress can create rules and regulations. However, the President is in CONTROL of the military. As I stated.
If the President was NOT in Control, than Congress, or it's delegate, would have been named CIC.
Then there is that whole enlistment oath
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
Not seeing where the oath dictates Congress has control. It does however, say that the swearer will obey the orders of the President.
Further, legislatures legislate..... executors execute. One writes, the other carries out. The one that carries out has the control in the manner they are carried out.
Nadil Hasan committed an act of treason when he launched a domestic terrorist attack on the people at Fort Hood shouting Allah ‘FUBAR’ after consulting with Al Qaeda.
That persons within our government KNEW of these communications and his violent outburts against non-muslims (calling for their beheading) is a deriliction of duty.
Nadil Hasan belongs in the brig awaiting his trial and executiion.
Others in our government also need to swear under oath what their role was in shielding Nadil Hasan from oversight.
Joe McCarthy and Roy Cohn got demonized in the 1950s for daring to suggest that there was a fifth column in our US military and State Department. With the actions of Nadil Hasan and the numerous leaked documents from the State Department to the press, that fifth column is STILL present.
BTTT of the treason list.
The Obama regime is threatening to sue the state of AZ. Clearly they don't understand the constitution and out of their arrogance they assume that most Americans have the same level of disdain for the constitution that they do. But if they do sue AZ they're opening up a whole new can of worms over states rights...and to be honest, it's a debate that is FAR overdue.
it's not a matter of law, it's a matter of power. Who is going to force them?
Who has the platform and the will to do it? The left counts on the fact that no one does...and they get away with just about anything they want. I don't see any hope that the US can be saved. I'd like to think I'm just being overly negative, but I haven't seen anything to dissuade me from that opinion, although I'd really like to find it if it exists.
Congress is run by the dems...it won't happen. The "police" are as corrupt as the "crooks" when it comes to congress.
sadly you’re right
the GOP has shut up so much that the left have pushed their agenda.
staying silent has only helped the far left and it pisses me off that the GOP still refuses to speak up
If this were a REPUB administration, the MSM would be hammering them day after day on this arrogant stonewall of Congress.
Never, Never, Never, Forget.
Even when the GOP does stand up (and they have on several issues) the corrupt media that has sold out to the leftists beat them down with accusations such as "the party of no". Well, when the bills proposed are horrific, the only just and moral answer is "no". But too many Americans are complacent and asleep...and I don't see how they can be awakened in sufficient numbers. And even if they did wake up, it'd take time to bring them up to speed on what is going on. I know my mother doesn't even believe me when I quite Obama or one of his administration...they are so extreme that she can't believe anyone would actually say what they do.
the biggest problem we have right now I think is the media, if they did their job the rats would not be able to get away with even half of what they are doing.
They have been corrupt not just bias and it is sickening and I only hope some sort of investigation will be done into this though will not hold my breath
Agreed. But if Obama calls in the SEIU thugs and anarchists from such orgs as the Iron Rail, there will be little time for debate. It will be Shelaleigh law.
The 2 core pillars, as I see it, are the media and education. Both of those are firmly in the hands of leftists...and the result is the destruction of America.
Conservatives should push for the privatization of education to remove it from the hands of leftists. The media is a more difficult nut to crack, although I have some ideas on that, but they all take money...which I don't have.
And the last step to the Marxist totalitarian state will be complete...but it will, at least, be in the open for all to see. Not that I desire to see the final destruction of America, although it seems I'll see it rather I desire it or not.
The last bunch of radicals who tried this when Ayers was a college student went down in a hail of lead. IMHO I don't think that Obama and his thugs are much different. They are merely clothed with a shallow veneer of legitimacy obtained by lies and deceit.America knows who they are now, and if we do not de-elect them, then most of them have pine boxes in their future IMHO, if they play the race card in Arizona.
America has little tolernace for racists on either side of that coin.
How would the administration have access to something like that before Congress, and on top of that how could they not share the information?
The governing and regulating of the military is the province of the US Congress. And we haven't even mentioned the power of the purse.
Since my point is that the Congress can demand an investigation of the Ft Hood shooter whether the president agrees or not, then you have to ask yourself what about this case applies to "when called into the service of the United States."
It was on our soil, and there were no enemy maneuvering armies that Hassan was avoiding.
Our Senators are perfectly, and Constitutionally in the right in demanding and even setting up and investigation to which members of the military MUST comply or be held in contempt of Congress.
I'm just guessing here, but didn't the justice department do an independent investigation? And if so, the justice department isn't under congress.
And read why - the administration makes it impossible for a reporter to do their job if they don't toe the administration line:
The fact that it remains so is no more reassuring.
Yes, this is correct. And I agree with you; however, POTUS does control the military. Hence Congress is going after the Obama adminstration and not the military, and the federal law enforcement entitites, directly/individually. The reason is congress dictates rules and regulations. Obama has the control over the military to execute the laws, rules, and regulations set forth by congress.
The same can be said for almost any federal institution. The legislative branch writes the policy (laws, regulations etc) and the executive branch controls the institution through its execution of the policy.
Congress has the power to demand an investigation into Toyota. That doesn't mean they control Toyota and can dictate that rear passenger seating must have DVD/Blu Ray as a standard option.
All of this is part of the checks and balances. Congress has the power to write legislation. They also have the power to investigate to ensure the executive branch carried out the law. The judicial branch has the power to interpret the laws the legislative branch wrote. The power over (through lawful orders) the military is retained with the POTUS.
It is part of the reason the servicemembers are refusing orders because of the birth certificate issue. If congress had control over the military, the point would be moot.
As far as the "power of the purse." Yes, congress could manipulate the military through it's budget. But, I'm sure you and I could both agree that the Founders probably would have found the agenda driven toying with national security an abuse of power.....
Unless we can lawfully remove this president from office America is screwed.
I thought I read somewhere that this muslim murderer had some sort of role in the BO campaign. I’m I thinking of someone else? Anybody know?
Muslims infiltrating the Department of Homeland Security. Where are the Republicans on this or anyone? This is just unbelievable. This makes me very scared.
A good way for MSNBC and CNN etc, to get more viewers would be to start doing huge stories on all the corruption that they are now sweeping under the rug. People would tune in by the millions.
I agree if CNN etc actually started to report all of this corruption and stated how obama is siding with the illegals, seat for sale, vacations, etc then obama’s numbers would go down but he likes of CNN would see their ratings go up.
I know I’d watch them if they were not corrupted
Just about what we would expect from the Obama WH
I used to think Brian Williams was OK (pre-2008) - but he is an Obamabot for sure - as you point out
I wait with anticipation for the breathless “Tsk, tsk, tsk” from Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric tonight. With a late night sarcastic bit from John Stewart skewering Obama.
Yep, I believe so!