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Laura Bush Opens Up About Crash
NYT ^ | 042810 | Anahad O'Conner

Posted on 04/28/2010 5:47:44 AM PDT by Artemis Webb

Laura Bush has finally opened up publicly about the mysterious car accident she had when she was 17, a crash that claimed the life of a high school friend on a dark country road in Midland, Tex.

In her new book, “Spoken From the Heart,” Mrs. Bush describes in vivid detail the circumstances surrounding the crash, which has haunted her for most of her adult life and which became the subject of questions and speculation when it was revealed during her husband’s first presidential run. A copy of the book, scheduled for release in early May, was obtained by The New York Times at a bookstore.

On several occasions in the book, Mrs. Bush admonishes her husband’s political adversaries for “calling him names,” and she pointedly rebuts criticism of some of his key decisions. She suggested that his highly criticized fly-over of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina was in the best interests of the victims and aid workers on the ground.

“He did not want one single life to be lost because someone was catering to the logistical requirements of a president,” she says about the Katrina fly-over. “He did not want his convoy of vehicles to block trucks delivering water or food or medical supplies, or to impede National Guardsmen from around the nation who were arriving to help.”

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1 posted on 04/28/2010 5:47:44 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Artemis Webb

I’m not sure of what to make of her explanation.


2 posted on 04/28/2010 5:52:25 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Artemis Webb

I miss Laura -- particularly when she's compared to the Wee Wee's Wookie

3 posted on 04/28/2010 5:53:59 AM PDT by Zakeet (Will Rogers never met the Wee Wee)
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To: Artemis Webb
He did not want one single life to be lost because someone was catering to the logistical requirements of a President.

Believe whatever you will about his policies while in office, but George W. Bush was a good, caring, unselfish man who brought honor to the Presidency. "Miss me yet?" Yes, Mr. President, more than I can say.

4 posted on 04/28/2010 5:54:18 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: pnh102

I think she handled it poorly but she was 17 at the time.


5 posted on 04/28/2010 5:54:54 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (DeMint 2012----Remember May 20th is "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day")
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To: Genoa

Agree. I take exception to the belief that he didnt care or is racist. That is just stupid. Quite frankly I am in the camp that thinks he did just fine, a little slow but.. just sayin.....


6 posted on 04/28/2010 5:55:59 AM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: Artemis Webb

She made a mistake. She ran a stop sign. It happens. There are many in the country, even on this board, who believe that every accident is a crime and someone should always go to prison. I wish my life were that perfect.

The press loves to wallow in sanctimony.


7 posted on 04/28/2010 5:57:37 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: GoCards

Slow? He was the only one engaged from the get-go. He had to call the Governor of LA while he was resting Waco to get her to call for an evacuation. He got federal agencies on board before the hurricane even hit and the Coast Guard and Navy were out rescuing people before the storm subsided. He did more than his own job.

ALL of the failure lies with the Governor and local authorities who failed to follow their own procedures and disaster plans and blunted the federal response... and then whined to the cameras.

I lived on the coast down there and Katrina initially took a bead directly on my house... I watched the process intently from beginning to end. I don’t go for historical revisionism.


8 posted on 04/28/2010 6:02:17 AM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: stinkerpot65
The press loves to wallow in sanctimony.

Of course, a much older Ted Kennedy also killed someone with his car, but the press gives him a free pass for that.

9 posted on 04/28/2010 6:02:22 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102

What would you like her to say?


10 posted on 04/28/2010 6:02:36 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: stinkerpot65
I caused a major accident once. Closed the highway. Medic copters flying in. I was in my early 20s, two days before Christmas, on my way to the laundromat. I was inching out to make a left, you know how people inch out when the light is green, and if the traffic flow never stops, they wait until the light turns red and then scoot across the oncoming lane? That's what I did. 2 lanes stopped. One lane I didn't see coming, a flash of white, and then blammo.

I felt horrible. I remember a lawyer friend of mine at the time said "That's why they call them accidents." Since then, I don't inch out on left turns anymore. I stop at the line, and I wait, and make sure traffic is clear and that I have the right of way.

11 posted on 04/28/2010 6:02:48 AM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: pgyanke
ALL of the failure lies with the Governor and local authorities who failed to follow their own procedures and disaster plans and blunted the federal response... and then whined to the cameras.

On top of that, contrast that idiot governor's bungling to the more competant leadership provided by the governors of Mississippi and Alabama. They had evacuations done well before the storm hit and while there was a lot of property damage there were far fewer deaths.

12 posted on 04/28/2010 6:04:49 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Zakeet

The first wookie reminds me of the Incredible Hulk. Except she isn’t green.


13 posted on 04/28/2010 6:05:08 AM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: pnh102
I’m not sure of what to make of her explanation.

How so? It seemed perfectly clear and logical to me.

Also of interest considering the same thing may have happened to GHW Bush in Japan.

Mrs. Bush also suggests, apparently for the first time, that she, Mr. Bush, and several members of their staff may have been poisoned during a visit to Germany for a G8 Summit. They all became mysteriously sick, and the president was bedridden for part of the trip. The Secret Service investigated the possibility they were poisoned, she writes, but doctors could only conclude that they all contracted a virus. After noting several high-profile poisonings, she wrote, “we never learned if any other delegations became ill, or if ours, mysteriously, was the only one.”

14 posted on 04/28/2010 6:05:27 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot; netmilsmom

True... I drank more coffee and re-read it. I am guessing she was very lucky to not have been charged with a more serious crime for causing an accident.


15 posted on 04/28/2010 6:08:23 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102

I agree.

Some mistakes we make when we are young are stupid and we gloss by them.
Some are very serious and we live with them forever.

I’m glad no one holds me accountable for what I did when I was 17.


16 posted on 04/28/2010 6:10:51 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: Zakeet
"the Wee Wee's Wookie"

Good one!

Might qualify for moniker of the day ... stay tuned.

17 posted on 04/28/2010 6:10:57 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: pgyanke

Dubya’s main mistake in handling Katrina’s issue was that he voluntarily owned it, by saying “I’m responsible for some of the failures.” He’s a nice person, and felt deeply sad about what happened, but I don’t think that’s a good move, politically. His poll numbers started to spiral down since then.


18 posted on 04/28/2010 6:10:58 AM PDT by paudio (Are you better off today than in 2006, when the Democrats took over the Congress?)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
...“we never learned if any other delegations became ill, or if ours, mysteriously, was the only one.”

Doesn't seem too hard to learn if other delegations became ill.

19 posted on 04/28/2010 6:11:16 AM PDT by decimon
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To: Artemis Webb

Talking about Pres. Bush flying over the area of the Katrina disaster so as not to disrupt the rescue efforts with his entourage and security. I bet if the 0ne was POTUS at the time, I am sure he would be on the ground and disrupting the efforts to make himself look good.


20 posted on 04/28/2010 6:12:09 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Artemis Webb
I think she handled it poorly

You were there?

21 posted on 04/28/2010 6:12:48 AM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: Zakeet

That picture speaks volumes.


22 posted on 04/28/2010 6:12:55 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (America needs Obama-care like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: Artemis Webb

I don’t know why she felt the need to cover such a personal topic which is none of our damned business to begin with.


23 posted on 04/28/2010 6:14:05 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: pnh102
I’m not sure of what to make of her explanation.

Well...if that isn't confusing! What are you referring to?

24 posted on 04/28/2010 6:15:47 AM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: lonestar

She seems to believe she handled it poorly also.


25 posted on 04/28/2010 6:17:41 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (DeMint 2012----Remember May 20th is "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day")
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To: Artemis Webb

She was seventeen ... you are judging from the perspective of a much older adult...even tho, a narrow-minded one.


26 posted on 04/28/2010 6:21:35 AM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: Artemis Webb
How exactly was she supposed to handle it? Beg for forgiveness from a family whose son she accidentally killed? Further open herself and her family up to more potential financial responsibility?

With all the mini lawyers here at FR they are sure ready to judge. Her parents where absolutely correct and in today's litigious society they would be even more correct. Anybody who has had an accident today knows that the blood sucking lawyrs would run someone through the dirt if they thought there was a nickle in it for their greedy hands. Today it is worse than ever, THEY ADVERTISE ON TV as if they are selling soap.

You get in an accident, regardless of whose fault it is, SHUT UP. Grovelling, crying and saying anything will only come back to haunt you in a massive civil suit. Welcome to the Leftist Paradise.

Keeping quiet is also great advise if the police ever want to talk to you. Never, never, never talk to the police. They are not your friends.

27 posted on 04/28/2010 6:21:39 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: netmilsmom

“I’m glad no one holds me accountable for what I did when I was 17.”

Amen to that.


28 posted on 04/28/2010 6:29:52 AM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, mine!)
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To: Artemis Webb

She is one very good person. 17 years old when it happened.

The way we (mostly) all probably drove when we were 17.. sometimes it seems a miracle half of us survived.


29 posted on 04/28/2010 6:38:30 AM PDT by HD1200
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To: pnh102

I know of at least two 17 year old who lost their life, chatting with friends and running a stop sign on unlit country roads. One young girl ran a railroad caution sign on her way to get ready for the Big Game, and the train hit her. It’s sad and typical of thousands upon thousands of teens in towns across America.


30 posted on 04/28/2010 6:39:39 AM PDT by Cordio
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To: pnh102

A very good friend of mine had one of his brothers killed on a farm road by a neighbor driving to close to the edge of the gravel road that he was walking on way back in about 1965.

The friend’s family lived the rest of their long lives hating that neighbor, using every occasion to remind their other neighbors of the incident, bad mouthing the family that did it, and feeling sorry for themselves in general. If something went wrong at school for the kids it was blamed on the accident and what they went through.

Is that what you prefer?


31 posted on 04/28/2010 6:43:04 AM PDT by HD1200
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To: pnh102

Her explanation makes sense to me. Those small country roads are so dark. Talking to a friend is quite distracting. I admire Laura Bush so much; she was a classy First Lady (in contrast to the born-in-a-barn hussy who currently occupies the position). This must have been terrible for her.


32 posted on 04/28/2010 6:53:13 AM PDT by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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To: Huck

I almost caused an accident in a similar fashion — rushing to do the left turn as the light changed/ very nearly met a VW bus (not the most stable car) that was rushing to make the light, coming the other way. That bus careened and very nearly tipped over, but didn’t. Thank God. I am much more careful at intersections since then.


33 posted on 04/28/2010 7:07:59 AM PDT by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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To: paudio

“Dubya’s main mistake in handling Katrina’s issue was that he voluntarily owned it, by saying ‘I’m responsible for some of the failures.’”

I agree. But I mainly agree because he cemented in people’s minds that the federal government bears primary responsibility for every local disaster — a completely stupid idea. Only state and local governments already have first responders in place. Before Katrina, everybody more or less understood that the feds only came in after the fact, and only if they were called in by the state and local governments.

But, Bush’s political enemies saw an opportunity to make hay, and they did it, with the completely false assertion that the federal government — and not just the federal government, but the President, himself — somehow had an obligation to be there on the scene, and first.

Instead of reminding people how the system was supposed to work, he let his political enemies define the situation.


34 posted on 04/28/2010 7:08:04 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: decimon
Doesn't seem too hard to learn if other delegations became ill.

My assumption is that if others had become ill it would have been well known. It would then have been a news event. As it was only the President and his small group were affected so the decision to keep it quiet was probably due to diplomacy. If it became public knowledge that the President and his entourage were suddenly taken ill in Germany at a G8 meeting it could have caused a lot of rumor and conjecture and perhaps an international uproar.

Mrs. Bush seems to be diplomatically understating the fact there were no others. However, we are just now learning about this l so who knows?

35 posted on 04/28/2010 7:17:50 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Zakeet
This mess getting off AF1 REALLY digs the perks of the office while admonishing all of us to cut back.

I hope some day a real investigative reporter compiles what they have spent compared with other presidents. I wager they have already outspent the Bushes 8 years in under 2 years.

I totally believe Laura Bush's explanation of Bush flying over NO to see. A visit on the ground would have sucked up time and resources better spent on the victims. The media burned Bush but said practically nothing about that sniveling governor who refused for several days to sign over to the feds her responsibility, which she had to do before they could come in. NOTHING much was said about this or about Nagin, who the NO idiots reelected. But what can we say when other idiots keep sending Shumer, Boxer, Waters, and other crazies to DC .

vaudine

36 posted on 04/28/2010 7:18:50 AM PDT by vaudine (,,)
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To: All

Mrs. Bush mentions that it was dark and the stop sign was small. Sounds like something that could have happened to anybody. Anyway, I do feel for her; I have no doubt it’s haunted her her whole life. When George ran for Prez and it was brought up in the media, that must have been very difficult for her. Nothing compared to what the family of the young man went through, I’m sure, but I still sympathize with her.


37 posted on 04/28/2010 7:21:17 AM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: Zakeet
I miss Laura -- particularly when she's compared to the Wee Wee's Wookie

Laura is representing all of America with class while the Obamas are playing to their base, the ghetto. Those are the key precincts in the major cities and are where ACORN has been most active. They determine elections.

38 posted on 04/28/2010 7:24:10 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: paudio

Paudio writes - “Dubya’s main mistake in handling Katrina’s issue was that he voluntarily owned it, by saying “I’m responsible for some of the failures.” He’s a nice person, and felt deeply sad about what happened, but I don’t think that’s a good move, politically. “”

I cannot agree. Being raised by a father who was a Goldwater man, and who’s favorite President was Harry S. - IMHO, when you are The Boss, taking responsibility is what you do, and I commend W for it. Individual issues wise, W and I parted company early and often, but as a man, and our leader in a 9 -11 world, he was purt near as good as it gets.

Except of course, for that @#*^ open border..... shakes head. I think his personal feelings about the Hispanic people clouded his view, to far too great an extent, and the American people, at least this one, felt that OUR best interests were not being served... : (

FReeregards,
Tatt


39 posted on 04/28/2010 7:26:40 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: lady lawyer; paudio

paudio wrote - “Dubya’s main mistake in handling Katrina’s issue was that he voluntarily owned it, by saying ‘I’m responsible for some of the failures.’”

lady lawyer responds - “”I agree. But I mainly agree because he cemented in people’s minds that the federal government bears primary responsibility for every local disaster — a completely stupid idea. Only state and local governments already have first responders in place. Before Katrina, everybody more or less understood that the feds only came in after the fact, and only if they were called in by the state and local governments.””

This is why I love FR. VERY good point. Clearly, the nation my Dad grew up in, (and me!), would not have so readily jumped to that conclusion. The road back to personal responsibility is going to be a long and hard one : /

May God strengthen us,
Tatt


40 posted on 04/28/2010 7:35:38 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: Artemis Webb

I wanted to read the article, but it’s from the NYSLIMES...so couldn’t do it.


41 posted on 04/28/2010 7:37:26 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: lonestar
"She was seventeen ... you are judging from the perspective of a much older adult...even tho, a narrow-minded one."

Obviously your reading skills are lacking today. From my post #5:

"I think she handled it poorly but she was 17 at the time."

42 posted on 04/28/2010 7:41:21 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (DeMint 2012----Remember May 20th is "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day")
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To: Jim from C-Town
"How exactly was she supposed to handle it?"

Once again I would state that even she believes she handled it poorly. I'm not talking about what happened in the moments after the wreck. I'm talking about the aftermath. I would suggest you read the last four paragraphs of the article where she explains what she wishes she had done.

43 posted on 04/28/2010 7:46:13 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (DeMint 2012----Remember May 20th is "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day")
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To: lady lawyer
Before Katrina, everybody more or less understood that the feds only came in after the fact, and only if they were called in by the state and local governments.

Actually, I think that understanding went out the window when Clinton politicized Andrew in the '92 election.

44 posted on 04/28/2010 7:49:21 AM PDT by big black dog
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To: big black dog

True, Clinton used Andrew for political advantage. But Bush didn’t have to go along with it when he was in power. You never let the other side define the playing field.

He should have challenged the faulty assumptions underlying the other side’s arguments, and explained why the only sensible arrangement is for the state and local people — who are already in place — to be the first responders and have primary responsibilty. He should have hit hard and repeatedly on the fact that it was the Governor’s responsibility to ask for help, and she dragged her feet in doing so.

He could have done all that while still expressing sympathy for the people in New Orleans, and pointing out how the feds were performing in the way the system was set up to perform, and doing extra stuff besides.


45 posted on 04/28/2010 7:55:06 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Artemis Webb
"I think she handled it poorly but she was 17 at the time."

I comprehended what you said; don't comprehend WHY you said it.

How would any "normal" 17 YO handle it any differently? Obviously she was quite tramatized by the entire thing...probably more than many 17 YO kids would be today.

I got the impression that her parents might have been over-protective of her---which is understandable, also. But not letting her go to his funeral?...seems to have added to the guilt in later years.

IIRC, she had dated or was dating him. He was not a stranger to her but a friend.

46 posted on 04/28/2010 8:32:14 AM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: lonestar; pnh102

WHY I said it was a response to Post #2 (that’s why #2 was to puh102). The problem here as I see it is that you believe even the most mild critism of Laura Bush is an attack. I simply agreed with HER OWN assessment that not reaching out to the victims family was a mistake. Frankly when I was 17 I wasn’t even as mature as she likely was which is why I pointed out that her age was a mitigating factor.

I’m not attacking Laura Bush! I’m simply agreeing with her that she should have reached out to the family. If they rejected her approach then that’s their problem but that is what she should have done and that is what she believes she should have done. If you don’t like it take it up with her.


47 posted on 04/28/2010 8:43:15 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (DeMint 2012----Remember May 20th is "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day")
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To: Artemis Webb

You seem to be mad about our exchange...and I never was.


48 posted on 04/28/2010 12:36:28 PM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: decimon

I’d guess the problem was learning that without asking, when every other delegation might be doing the same, because nobody wants to reveal that their leader might have been poisoned.


49 posted on 04/28/2010 1:38:36 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: lonestar
"You seem to be mad about our exchange...and I never was."

What expression on my face makes you believe I was mad? Perhaps it was my tone of voice? At any rate you and I have been around here too long to get "mad" at the drop of a hat. I certainly was perturbed however that you kept asking questions that had obvious answers or had been answered before or addressed before. You pointed out that Laura Bush was only 17 when the crash happened even though the original statement I made that you were responding to said EXACTLY the same thing. You wondered out loud what brought my comments on in the first place when obviously I was responding to another FReepers statement/question in those comments. You appeared to ignore Laura Bush's own regrets over her handling of the issue instead focusing on my agreement with her.

Last of all you were the one who called me "narrow-minded" and gave the smart ass comment "You were there?" So you see I'm not mad at all. I think you're kind of stupid, but I'm not mad at you for being so. You seem bitter. I hope you have a better day tomorrow.

50 posted on 04/28/2010 10:40:15 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (DeMint 2012----Remember May 20th is "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day")
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