(Vanity question) Aren't "green cards" considered "papers"?

n/a ^ | 4-28-10 | Myself

[Texas Eagle]

I heard a caller tell Rush Limbaugh that he was a Green Card holder and that when he received his card he also received a packet of information which contained instructions for him to have his Card with him at all times.

So, my question is: Isn't the Obama administration guilty of Nazi like tactics also?

[pissant]

Don’t be an idiot.

[Drew68]

Pull my social security card out of my wallet.

My foreign wife has a social security card. It looks just like mine with a different name and number.

She's not a citizen, only a permanent resident. In fact, she received her SS card when she was only a conditional resident.

[manc]

I used to be a green card holder
on the card which is pink by the way it states that I had to carry it everywhere I went when I left the house

now when bozo and the far left say they can just come up to you which is false and then say they will ask for papers then that is true.

why

because fed law makes it so .
now if the rats and bozo does not like this then I suggest they change federal law and state to the public how thye will now get rid of immigration cards and laws

[A.A. Cunningham]

All registered aliens over 18 years of age must carry evidence of registration. INA sec. 264(e), 8 U.S.C. 1304(e). The failure to carry evidence of registration is a misdemeanor offense. Id. The Form I551 is a form of evidence of registration issued to individuals who are LPRs. 8 CFR 264.1(b).

8 USC Sec. 1304

(e) Personal possession of registration or receipt card; penalties

Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d) of this section. Any alien who fails to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both.

[Texas Eagle]

I heard Rush Limbaugh say that Lifelock was the bomb. He also spoke highly of Sleep Number beds.

No. Would it bother you if I did?

If so, I'll get right on it.

[Texas Eagle]

Let me try that again....

I heard Rush Limbaugh say that Lifelock was the bomb. He also spoke highly of Sleep Number beds. Have you posted threads about those things?

No. Would it bother you if I did? If so, I'll get right on it.

That's better.

[CholeraJoe]

Do you carry papers on you that would prove you’re a citizen?

SS card and a DL will do it.

[humblegunner]

No. Would it bother you if I did?

Heck no!

Shouldn't EVERYTHING that he says be immortalized?

[Non-Sequitur]

So, my question is: Isn't the Obama administration guilty of Nazi like tactics also?

That requirement predates the Obama administration by a number of years.

[rolling_stone]

8 usc 1304 (e)

(e) Personal possession of registration or receipt card; penalties Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d) of this section. Any alien who fails to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both.

[massgopguy]

When I was young I remember an ad on TV reminding all resident aliens in the US to report to the Post Office once a year.

[manc]

exactly
I carried my green card at all times and showed it when asked

so this new thing about stopping ans asking was already ahppening it is AZ who said they will enforce the law in their state and now the rats are saying it seems that they are for those who break the law

HEY GOP YOU HEAR THIS MAKE AN AD AND INFORM THE DEMOCRATS THAT THEIR PARTY STANDS FOR THOSE BREAKING THE LAW

Get the rats on record and make AD’s to show their voters and show how they are giving up America to intimidation, and thuggery

[OldDeckHand]

"SS card and a DL will do it. "

As a point of factual accuracy, neither a DL nor a SS card reference anyone's citizenship status, or immigration status. Both can be, and frequently are, obtained absent citizenship. In some states, they may be obtained absent legalized residency

[pillut48]

From my husband's green card in the 90s (which was really pink back then, not sure what color they are now).

I remember when he got it I was surprised the word 'possession' was misspelled! Have to say as well, I sure don't remember him going on and on about having to carry this green card in his wallet reminded him of the Nazis forcing people to 'show their papers'! I DO remember how very proud he was that he had moved closer with this step to becoming an AMERICAN CITIZEN, and he proudly carried that pink card in his wallet (never would have touched the thing otherwise).

[maddogconservative]

Green Card Holders do have to carry the green cards on them at all times, but they usually only show them to Immigration Officials & State Department.

The Difference in Ben’s scenario, he was doing something that caught the cops attention & driving is a privileged not a right.

But the Arizona law allows a cop to stop any person and demand proof of citizenship. A driver’s license isn’t proof of legality. A social security number isn’t proof of legality (and quite easy to forge). A birth certificate is easy to forge (to paraphrase a t-shirt “Sure Officer, all Maine Birth Certificates are written in crayon). To prove legality you would need to carry around a valid US Passport.

And here’s the thing, you might think you are “OK” but the cops are going to have to have the racial numbers balance out. They’ll be stopping more white people. And they’ll be taking in more white people who don’t have the appropriate ID.

[pillut48]

My naturalized husband has a LEGAL driver’s license, which is easily checked on the DMV computers...

[OldDeckHand]

This is an interesting question. The federal government opened the door to this with Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, 542 U.S. 177 (2004), where the Supremes held that, during the course of an investigation (which would include a routine traffic stop), the police where within their right to ask for ID from the person they’ve stopped. They can also detain such a person if no ID is provided, pursuant to making a positive ID.

[CholeraJoe]

In my state (IN) a birth certificate or passport in addition to an out of state license are required. I believe they will accept a green card, but note such on the license.

[Spunky]

Green Card

This site 3 paragraph down says they are to carry papers at all times or it will be a misdeamenor.

[NavyCanDo]

Current Federal Law:

(e) Personal possession of registration or receipt card; penalties Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d) of this section.
Any alien who fails to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both.