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Referendum could delay AZ immigration law to 2012
The Arizona Daily Sun ^ | April 28 2010 | JJ Cooper & P Davenport

Posted on 04/29/2010 2:59:50 AM PDT by ketelone

Challenges to Arizona's tough new law targeting illegal immigration have started to emerge, with a Latino clergy group planning to file the first lawsuit seeking to halt enforcement of the crackdown and others aiming to block the law at the ballot box.

The National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders says it will file suit Thursday in Phoenix federal court, the first of several lawsuits expected in coming months.

A draft of the complaint obtained by The Associated Press shows the coalition will seek an injunction preventing authorities from enforcing the law. The group argues federal law pre-empts state regulation of national borders, and that Arizona's law violates due-process rights by allowing suspected illegal immigrants to be detained before they're convicted.

Other Hispanic and civil rights groups, including the American Civil Liberties Union and the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, are also planning lawsuits. And U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has said the federal government may challenge the law.

On Wednesday, a group filed papers to launch a referendum drive that could put the law on hold until 2012 if organizers wait until the last minute to turn in petition signatures needed to get the measure on the ballot.

Opponents of the law have until late July or early August to file the more than 76,000 signatures _ the same time the law is set to go into effect. If they get enough signatures, the law would be delayed until a vote.

But the deadline to put a question on the November ballot is July 1, and a referendum filing later than that could delay a vote on the law until 2012, officials with the Secretary of State's Office said.

"That would be a pretty big advantage" to the law's opponents, said Andrew Chavez, head of a Phoenix-based petition-circulating firm and chairman of the One Arizona referendum campaign.

The legislation's chief sponsor, Republican Rep. Russell Pearce, said he has no doubt voters will support the new law at the ballot box, which would then protect it from repeal by the Legislature. In Arizona, measures approved by voters can only be repealed at the ballot box.

The law, which thrust Arizona into the national spotlight since Republican Gov. Jan Brewer signed it last week, requires local and state law enforcement to question people about their immigration status if there's reason to suspect they're in the country illegally, and makes it a state crime to be in the United States illegally.

The clergy group's lawsuit targets a provision allowing police to arrest illegal-immigrant day laborers seeking work on the street or anyone trying to hire them, according to the draft. It says the solicitation of work is protected by the First Amendment.

State Rep. Ben Miranda, a Phoenix Democrat who will serve as the local attorney on the case, said it was important to file the suit quickly to show local Latinos and the rest of the country that there's still a chance the law won't be enacted.

"I think there's real damage being caused right now," Miranda said. "How do you measure the kind of fear ... going on in many parts of this community?"

At least three Arizona cities also are considering lawsuits to block the law. Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon said the measure would be "economically devastating," and called on the City Council to sue the state to stop it from taking effect.

The council rejected that idea Tuesday, yet the mayor told reporters he retained legal counsel to prepare a lawsuit to file on behalf of the city.

Tucson leaders also are considering their options to block the law, and Flagstaff City Councilman Rick Swanson said the city had a duty to protect its residents who might be targeted.

Meanwhile, the effect of the law continued to ripple beyond Arizona.

A Republican Texas lawmaker said she'll introduce a measure similar to the Arizona law next year. Texas Rep. Debbie Riddle of Tomball said she will push for the law in the January legislative session, according to Wednesday's editions of the San Antonio Express-News and Houston Chronicle.

And Republicans running for governor in Colorado and Minnesota expressed support for the crackdown. "I'd do something very similar" if elected," Former Rep. Scott McInnis, told KHOW-AM radio in Denver.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; illegals; immigration; mexicans
The sliminess of the pro illegal types defies no bounds!

These guys cant do anything to stop the law. Let all good Arizonans get behind this law, and make sure that it is passed at the ballot box, keeping it safe from repeal by cowardly dems. Also, lets make sure that if and when the referendum happens, all polling booths are fully guarded against attacks by Mexican thugs.

1 posted on 04/29/2010 2:59:50 AM PDT by ketelone
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To: ketelone

“Opponents of the law have until late July or early August to file the more than 76,000 signatures _ the same time the law is set to go into effect. If they get enough signatures, the law would be delayed until a vote.”

Mostly signatures from illegals no doubt.

All it takes is one judge, to override the law. The dems have plenty of them in the palm of there hand.


2 posted on 04/29/2010 3:14:34 AM PDT by Revel
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To: ketelone
Any "American" who is pro-illegal should be stripped of citizenship and deported. This is TREASON.

And where is the IRS? Oh wait, it only cares about conservative clergy that wade into politics.

3 posted on 04/29/2010 3:22:52 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: ketelone

if I was a member of a group that wouldn’t allow me to defend myself, I’d get the hell out !!!!!


4 posted on 04/29/2010 3:29:54 AM PDT by SF_Redux
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To: Revel; ketelone

Supporters of the law should file for their own referendum by July 1 in order to get it on the ballot by November.

That way the Left won’t be able to run out the clock to 2012.


5 posted on 04/29/2010 3:30:27 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: SF_Redux

K.I.S.S.

Keep It Simple Stupid


6 posted on 04/29/2010 3:30:34 AM PDT by SF_Redux
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To: SF_Redux

of course they might lose the MILLIONS to start raising SALTWATER SHRIMP in AZ


7 posted on 04/29/2010 3:31:57 AM PDT by SF_Redux
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To: ketelone

I must be dense. The AZ law exactly mirrors Federal law, so even if the statement is true that Federal law pre-empts state law, how is that going to change that particular AZ law?

What can be done with people that delusional?


8 posted on 04/29/2010 3:32:06 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (Ey, Paolo! uh-Clem just broke the Presideng...)
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To: Tennessee Nana; La Lydia; TADSLOS; maggief; SE Mom; STARWISE; hoosiermama; yorkie; ...
DOING MEXICO'S BIDDING----BLOCKING ARIZONA'S NEW LAW The National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders, The National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders, the American Civil Liberties Union and the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, Andrew Chavez, head of a Phoenix-based petition-circulating firm and chairman of the One Arizona referendum campaign. State Rep. Ben Miranda, a Phoenix Democrat who will serve as the local attorney on the case. At least three Arizona cities also are considering lawsuits to block the law. Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon retained legal counsel to prepare a lawsuit to file on behalf of the city. Tucson leaders and Flagstaff City Councilman Rick Swanson also are considering their options to block the law.

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REFERENCE U.S. Rep. Steve King. " I’m wondering if we look at the map of Arizona Congressman Grijalva’s congressional district, if we haven’t already ceded that component of Arizona to Mexico, judging by the voice that comes out of Grijalva. Grijalva’s advocating for Mexico rather than the United States and against the rule of law, which is one of the central pillars of American exceptionalism. Grijalva believes Arizona's new law, which requires law enforcement officials to demand papers from anyone they suspect is in the country illegally, is racist and does little more than “propagate the idea separate but equal treatment under the law can be codified,” Grijalva saud.

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ACTION NOW Arizonans should act now. Arizona elected officials under oath like Grijalva and the aforementioned who challenge the will of the people----that won’t enforce the new immigration law----are using public funds to aid and abet felonies against Arizona (and other US citizens).

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FOR EXAMPLE (1) Investors in Arizona tax-exempt bonds may have been misled about the use of their investments. (2) Arizona elected officials under oath like Grijalva and the aforementioned who challenge the will of the people----that won’t enforce new immigration law may have jeopardized investments in Arizona tax-exempt bonds

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ACTION Do the research on timelines when Arizona legislators voted for the sale of billions of tax-exempt bonds to finance law enforcement, schools, highways, water facilities, municipal and county grants, etc, etc, etc. These bonds were then sold to tax-exempt investors.

Sometimes bond sales are voted upon---in state ballot referenda. Arizona public officials may have mis-stated uses of tax-exempt bonds on referenda ballots.

If immigrants illegals voted on tax-exempt bond issues, that could negate the bond revenue and subject the illegals to prosecution

MISLEADING BOND INVESTORS IS A SERIOUS CRIME Investors in Arizona tax-exempt bonds were clearly misled about the use of tax-exempt bond revenue. The SEC closely monitors tax-exempt bond sales. The SEC takes a dim view about misleading tax-exempt investors and the misuse of tax-exempt bond revenue. So does the IRS.

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HERE'S WHAT TO DO:

(1) Express your concerns about Arizona elected officials under oath like Grijalva and the aforementioned who challenge the will of the people----that won’t enforce the new immigration law; this is a misappropriation of tax-exempt bond revenue.

EMAIL enforcement@SEC.gov.

(2) Contact the IRS to report suspected tax fraud and tax law violations by officials using tax-exempt bond revenue in ways not disclosed to investors.

IRS TOLL-FREE Tel 1-800-829-0433 You may remain anonymous.

(3) Arizona elected officials under oath like Grijalva and the aforementioned officials who challenge the will of the people----that won’t enforce new immigration law have co-opted investors in tax-exempt bonds; they should be reported for fiduciary negligence.

EMAIL askDOJ@USDOJ.gov

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Demand that banks holding Arizona tax-exempt bond revenue conduct an outside audit immediately and reveal their findings (or you will report banks to state and federal regulators).

Bond sales that were put to referendum are subject to penalties, since voters were misled about the uses of bond revenue.

The Arizona Secy of State should be asked to release all official documents filed WRT tax-exempt bond issues.

9 posted on 04/29/2010 3:39:56 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: ketelone

“Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders”

Standing in a garage doesn’t make you a car. Calling yourself a car doesn’t make you a car. The only way to become a car is to be built by a car manufacturer.


10 posted on 04/29/2010 3:57:07 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: ketelone

The arguments mentioned in the article are completely anf totally insane.

IOW, they are certain to pass judicial muster and win the day.

Not LOL.

P. S. Of course people can be detained before being convicted. It’s done every day.


11 posted on 04/29/2010 3:57:32 AM PDT by savedbygrace (Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord)
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To: BelegStrongbow

They aren’t delusional. They want it their way and to heck with the democratic process.


12 posted on 04/29/2010 3:58:35 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ketelone

At least we know who the enemy is.


13 posted on 04/29/2010 3:58:56 AM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: ketelone
The sliminess of the pro illegal types defies no bounds!

And lefty politicians are in lock step with them, using tactics similar to what the Nazi's used. Yeah, you read that right, Nazi's you lefties! Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

There are allot of us regular citizens, both on the left and on the right that want our borders secure and that illegals should be sent home and only allowed in the legal way.

14 posted on 04/29/2010 4:13:36 AM PDT by b4its2late (Bawney Fwank's mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork.)
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To: Liz

“A draft of the complaint obtained by The Associated Press shows the coalition will seek an injunction preventing authorities from enforcing the law. The group argues federal law pre-empts state regulation of national borders, and that Arizona’s law violates due-process rights by allowing suspected illegal immigrants to be detained before they’re convicted. “

This is laughable.


15 posted on 04/29/2010 4:32:17 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: ketelone

The arriviste parasites and moochers are descending en masse. They all want to take a bite out of a once great nation. The more illegal alien moochers you allow in through “kindness”, the more you will get later. Half of Mexico would move here if we had no borders.


16 posted on 04/29/2010 4:36:54 AM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: ketelone
A draft of the complaint obtained by The Associated Press shows the coalition will seek an injunction preventing authorities from enforcing the law. The group argues federal law pre-empts state regulation of national borders, and that Arizona's law violates due-process rights by allowing suspected illegal immigrants to be detained before they're convicted.

The pre-emption issue under the Supremecy Clause of Article VI of the Constitution may have some validity, if in fact, the Arizona Law is found to regulate the border. The problem with the arguement, however, is that the law has nothing to do with crossing the border, but rather, what happens once an illegal alien has already entered the State of Arizona illegally -- a subtle, but significant distinction.

The second argument will ultimately fail because law enforcement, by its very nature, results in the arrest and detention of people suspected of illegal activity. Just ask anyone who has been arrested for suspected DUI, suspected shoplifting, or suspected [fill in the crime]. Sometimes the police are wrong and the charges are dropped or the person is aquitted, but that does not mean that the underlying criminal statue is unconstitutional on its face. If a person is wrongfully detained, then the remedy is not to throw out the law, but to seek damages for false arrest, maliscious prosecution, or violation of civil rights under 42 USC §1981 et seq.

17 posted on 04/29/2010 4:47:10 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: HiJinx
Opponents of the law have until late July or early August to file the more than 76,000 signatures _ the same time the law is set to go into effect. If they get enough signatures, the law would be delayed until a vote.

Is there any doubt 76,00+++ signatures, illegal or otherwise, will be filed? This law may not even see the light of day but Jan Brewer, and her courageous stance, has resurrected the sleeping giant in other States to do something to protect its citizens.

18 posted on 04/29/2010 4:56:56 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: Revel

signatures, would that be their kids and people who cannot speak English , illegals signing their names too


19 posted on 04/29/2010 4:59:38 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: StarFan; HiJinx

Does that mean that all we need is 76,000 signatures to delay the law of Health Care? Why are we not doing that as well. If they want to delay our bills, then lets give them the same treatment!


20 posted on 04/29/2010 5:00:58 AM PDT by jcsjcm (American Patriot - follow the Constitution and in God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: BelegStrongbow

no you’re not, it’;s the far left, illegals and a couple of Ron Paul idiots who are.

Having been through the immigration for years and legally I might add then they are only enforcing federal law so if bozo does not like federal law then he should change it

Look why doesn’t the far left, the kooks and illegals actually really say what they want.
no borders at all after all that is what they really want


21 posted on 04/29/2010 5:02:06 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: ketelone
We need to start spreading our own disinfo...

I dunno -- maybe something like once they are granted citizenship all the men over a certain age and below a certain age are going to be drafted and sent to fight in multiples of wars like Iraq. And maybe, throw in that the government has plans THEN to lock down the border so that they can't escape back to Mexico...we need to get creative. Just start massive disinfo campaigns aimed at making them distrust the Democrat party and scare them.

22 posted on 04/29/2010 5:07:58 AM PDT by riri
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To: BelegStrongbow
Delusional?

To the “Progressives” it's not about doing the right thing. It's all about votes and power.

The “Progressives” have already demonstrated their number one priority is their control and implementation of their agenda, not the good of the USA.

If their successful in their amnesty push, voting rights for these illegal immigrants will follow shortly.

We've become a nation of selective law enforcement and are becoming a nation without borders. What follows next is the loss of sovereignty and anarchy.

Delusional? Indeed.

23 posted on 04/29/2010 5:15:06 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: ketelone
I am participating in the reverse boycott of Arizona. I have transferred all my on line-biz to Arizona business. 1-800-Pet-Meds in FL loses for now, but Arizona wins. My doggie is happy too.

Finally a state law that helps American Workers get the jobs. With Utah, Ohio, Texas and a few others are working on passing a similar law, maybe all illegals, from any country will go home and work in their country or go to SF, Nanny P's district. What part of illegal doesn't Washington DC understand. Winds of change are in the air and coming soon.

Arizona Chamber of Commerce Directory. http://www.azchamber.com/localchambers/index.cfm?ID=34

Buy Arizona!

24 posted on 04/29/2010 5:18:40 AM PDT by Pit1
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To: Revel

don’t the sigs have to be registered voters?


25 posted on 04/29/2010 5:30:03 AM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: Rational Thought

It is too bad that someone in the blogosphere does not do a short biography on Congressman Grijalva. Ironically, as a local politician of limited intelligence but easily swayed, he was the pointman financed by Jewish interests determined to halt the creation of a Middle East Institute at the U. of Arizona with Arab funds. After that effort ended successfully, Grijalva had a financial base. Then when the state was Gerrymandered to limit the impact of the Latino vote, he ran and won in the Latino district. As the years have passed Grijalva has become two faced, both bad; he supports the most radical of the irridentist Mexican movements, and his economic philosophy has become pure Marxism. In sum, he is still a stupid man, but now he is a dangerous radical.


26 posted on 04/29/2010 5:36:43 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: ketelone
I wonder how many of these people who are advocating for the poor Mexicans just trying to make a living will be going to Mexico with them to help them pull that country out of the sludge it is in. If they are so hard working, then they will be willing to work hard to make their own country prosperous.

Think of the improvements to that country that can be made with the skills that have been learned here in the US.

27 posted on 04/29/2010 5:44:01 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Have you donated to Free Republic yet? If not you are a Freeploader)
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To: driftdiver

I’ve got to answer two others who give essentially the same response as you. I understand that Progressives are sick and tired of this persuasion shtick and want to go directly to command and control, but my point was how stupid do people have to be to not see that you can’t make two things that are identical to be different. A=A. I guess I was suggesting the wrong people to be delusional. It would be anyone fool enough to trust the current government and MSM.

I’m just not ready to be a willing field-hand for the new plantation owners. I’m thinking those in bed with the MSM/government aren’t either and are angling for redneck jobs. Cracking the whip on slaves can be fun, if you don’t mind considering the crackees to be less human than you are (I’m real short on being able to do that).


28 posted on 04/29/2010 5:46:07 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (Ey, Paolo! uh-Clem just broke the Presideng...)
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To: manc

see my post #28


29 posted on 04/29/2010 5:46:50 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (Ey, Paolo! uh-Clem just broke the Presideng...)
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To: Rational Thought

see my post #28


30 posted on 04/29/2010 5:47:08 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (Ey, Paolo! uh-Clem just broke the Presideng...)
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To: Revel

Yes and good point. A good conservative counter is to have the ‘offended’ illegal supporting group verify that everyone of those 76,000 signatures is a living legal resident of AZ!!


31 posted on 04/29/2010 5:48:13 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Liz

The IRS won’t do a thing. They’re too busy hassling car wash owners who owe 4 cents.


32 posted on 04/29/2010 5:55:59 AM PDT by unixfox
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To: BelegStrongbow

I think I understand where you are coming from. IMO many people are so disillusioned with the process or stuck on themselves that they burned out. They just don’t care and prefer to stick their heads in the sand.

I’ve read that even during the Rev. War only about 30% of the population supported the cause. With another 30% supporting the British and the remaining refusing to take a position.

We need to learn from our enemy and use modern media to our advantage. Stop having unrealistic expectations that people will suddenly wake up and fight. A large percentage won’t until the oven doors close on them.


33 posted on 04/29/2010 6:29:13 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ketelone
The group argues federal law pre-empts state regulation of national borders,

So if the federal government REFUSES to protect its citizens, then the state is PREVENTED from doing it?

34 posted on 04/29/2010 7:05:34 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: RSmithOpt

From pretty much all petitions for a ballot initiative I have seen, the 76,000 have to be registered voters.


35 posted on 04/29/2010 7:08:13 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: McGavin999

We are rapidly devolving into a turd world country. Our voting system is one of the most corrupt in the world, our politicians refuse to enforce laws to protect the citizens from an illegal alien invasion, the president himself is neck deep in a scheme to steal $10 TRILLION a year from the people by forcing them to pay for “carbon credits”, nearly half the people who work pay no payroll taxes at all, the various socialists in the Obastard regime are collaborating to shut down free speech on the radio and the Internet, and it goes on and on and on.


36 posted on 04/29/2010 7:12:43 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: ketelone
Existing Federal immigration law specifically permits states to make arrests of those suspected of being in violation.

This is totally bogus.

37 posted on 04/29/2010 7:14:51 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
And we have allowed it. We've been pushed to the wall with political correctness and we have to do something about it.

People are just going to do what is necessary regardless. They played a dangerous game when the made disregarding the law a possibility.

38 posted on 04/29/2010 7:23:43 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Have you donated to Free Republic yet? If not you are a Freeploader)
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To: ketelone; SandRat
USC Title 8, Section 1324(c)

(c) Authority to arrest
No officer or person shall have authority to make any arrests for a violation of any provision of this section except officers and employees of the Service designated by the Attorney General, either individually or as a member of a class, and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws.

Allow me to parse this:

No officer or person shall have authority to make any arrests [snip] except [list] and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws.

Note: it doesn't say simply "Federal Laws," as there is a LONG history of state and local officials making arrests for incidences of Federal crimes.
39 posted on 04/29/2010 7:24:43 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: ketelone

40 posted on 04/29/2010 8:37:17 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Founders revolted for less.)
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To: ketelone

“allowing suspected illegal immigrants to be detained before they’re convicted”

I agree with the above post. That is just laughable.


41 posted on 04/29/2010 9:15:17 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: StarFan; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!


42 posted on 04/29/2010 9:22:33 AM PDT by HiJinx (~ Illegal is a Crime, it is not a Race ~)
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To: Principled

If they only need $76,000 statewide, that will happen. Out of state money will fund the drive. We’re in for a long court battle and the feds will help the illegals side.


43 posted on 04/29/2010 9:50:03 AM PDT by whence911 (Arizona, doing the work our national leaders won`t do.)
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To: McGavin999

We have allowed it mainly because a large portion of the people who vote for Rats have no idea about how the Rat Party has been taken over by socialists who see themselves as elite and enlightened and the rest of us as stupid cattle to be penned up, used and slaughtered at their will.


44 posted on 04/29/2010 10:22:52 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: ketelone

RINOs against the law:
Jeb Bush
Pawlenty
Rubio
Rick Perry
Dick Armey
Meg Whitman
Carly Fiorina
Crist (he did not say but he is a RINO)
MCCain
Graham-nesty


45 posted on 04/29/2010 10:51:27 AM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain & Graham = La Raza's favorite Senators)
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To: pnh102
And where is the IRS? Oh wait, it only cares about conservative clergy that wade into politics.

IIRC, tax-exempt organizations can advocate all they want on issues, just can't get into endorsing or opposing candidates.

46 posted on 04/29/2010 11:18:31 AM PDT by ivyleaguebrat
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To: ketelone

The VAT if enacted will be an economic disaster too, while you’re collecting econonic disasters, here’s one more you can hope for Ariz.


47 posted on 04/29/2010 12:07:36 PM PDT by Waco (Kalifonia don't need no stenkin oil and no stenkin revenues)
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To: whence911

sorry, meant 76,000 signatures


48 posted on 04/29/2010 2:01:27 PM PDT by whence911 (Arizona, doing the work our national leaders won`t do.)
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