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Health law’s heavy impact (3.8% tax on home sales)
The Spokesman Review ^ | 3/28/2010 | Paul Guppy

Posted on 04/29/2010 7:17:22 AM PDT by GailA

In the days leading up to the dramatic late-night vote on President Barack Obama’s health plan, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said, “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it …” Now that ObamaCare has passed, it is slowly dawning on people what the new law means for the country and for Washington state.

ObamaCare sweeps away a host of state regulations and permanently alters our state’s insurance market. From now on, the federal government will manage the health care of all Washingtonians. The 2,700-page law contains a complex web of mandates, directives, price controls, tax increases and subsidies.

Federal officials will now decide what kind of insurance people in Washington must have, what medicines will be covered, what treatments are allowed and which are not. Early reports indicate, however, that President Obama, Vice President Biden, the Cabinet, senior members of Congress and leadership staff are exempt.

The new law falls well short of universal coverage. ObamaCare will leave about 6 percent of Washington residents without coverage. The measure is conservatively expected to cost $2.4 trillion in its first full decade. Thousands of older Washingtonians will lose their Medicare Advantage coverage, and the state’s 120,000 Health Savings Account holders may need to buy new policies or face stiff penalties.

Washington residents will begin paying ObamaCare taxes this year, while most benefits don’t start until 2014. The law includes some 19 new taxes. Here’s a rundown of what Washingtonians can expect in the coming years.

Penalties on individuals. Individuals will pay a yearly penalty of $695, or up to 2.5 percent of their annual income, if they cannot show they have purchased a government-approved health policy.

Penalties on families. Families will pay a yearly penalty of $347 per child, up to $2,250 per family, if parents cannot show they have purchased a government- approved policy.

Penalties on employers. Business owners with more than 50 employees must buy government- acceptable health coverage or pay a yearly penalty of $2,000 per employee if at least one employee receives a tax credit.

Tax on investment income. ObamaCare imposes a 3.8 percent annual tax on investment income of individuals making $200,000 or more and on families making $250,000 or more. The new tax is not indexed to inflation, so more people will fall under it each year. Seniors on fixed incomes and people with IRAs and 401(k) plans will be hit particularly hard.

Tax on “Cadillac” health plans. Starting in 2018, imposes a 40 percent annual tax on health care plans valued at $10,200 for individuals and $27,500 for families.

Medicare tax increase. Requires single people earning $200,000 or more and couples earning $250,000 or more to pay an additional 0.9 percent in Medicare taxes.

Tax on Home Sales. Imposes a 3.8 percent tax on home sales and other real estate transactions. Middle-income people must pay the full tax even if they are “rich” for only one day – the day they sell their house and buy a new one.

Tax on medical aid devices. Creates a new 2.9 percent tax on medical aid devices. Certain items intended for personal use are exempt.

Tax on tanning. Imposes a 10 percent tax on services at tanning salons. Business owners will collect the tax from customers and send it to the federal government. This appears to be the first federal sales tax in the United States.

ObamaCare will be enforced by the Internal Revenue Service. The tax agency plans to hire 16,500 new auditors, agents and investigators, and to increase enforcement audits. The IRS can confiscate tax refunds, place liens on property and seek jail time if health-related penalties and taxes are not paid.

President Obama had said people could keep their coverage if they want, yet the Congressional Budget Office estimates that under ObamaCare 8 million to 9 million people will lose their employer-provided coverage.

The ObamaCare law passed over bipartisan opposition in Congress. Republicans say they will run on a “repeal and replace” platform this fall, and Washington has joined 12 other states in a lawsuit challenging the federal government’s power to force state residents to buy a product – insurance – from private companies. The long-term prospects of ObamaCare are unclear. In the meantime, Washingtonians should prepare for major changes in their tax burden.

Paul Guppy is vice president for research at the Washington Policy Center, a research organization with offices in Spokane, Seattle, Olympia and the Tri-Cities ( www.washingtonpolicy.org).


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; april; communism; democrats; healthcare; homes; liberalfascism; obamacare; pelosi; reid; socialisthealthcare; tax; taxcheatparty; taxes
IF YOU INTEND to sell your house you better do it this year! Tax on Home Sales. Imposes a 3.8 percent tax on home sales and other real estate transactions. Middle-income people must pay the full tax even if they are “rich” for only one day – the day they sell their house and buy a new one.
1 posted on 04/29/2010 7:17:22 AM PDT by GailA
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To: GailA

holy smokes


2 posted on 04/29/2010 7:21:43 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: GailA

I would love to see additional confirmation of this. If this is true, it will kill the housing market, once and for all. There will be no recovery.


3 posted on 04/29/2010 7:26:53 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gov. Chris Christie (R) won the NJ-6 held by Rep. Frank Pallone (D) by a 15.5% margin!)
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To: driftdiver

People keep digging and finding new taxes in that sucker.


4 posted on 04/29/2010 7:27:01 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: Haiku Guy

http://www.washingtonpolicy.org contact them see what they are saying.


5 posted on 04/29/2010 7:28:28 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: GailA
Imposes a 3.8 percent tax on home sales ...
Add in a 5% or 6% realtor fee and you're looking at losing almost 10% of your home's value.
Taxes have become a tool not only to redistribute the wealth, but also a way to control the population.
No money - no freedom.
6 posted on 04/29/2010 7:29:22 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: GailA

Heh. Wait till the “limousine liberals” get a whiff of THIS next time they sell their “country house”.


7 posted on 04/29/2010 7:31:17 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: GailA
IF YOU INTEND to sell your house you better do it this year!

There's going to be another "tax" on housing sales. If everyone tries to sell between now and the end of the year, the prices of homes will be further depressed and sellers will not only have the loss due to tax but a true loss in sales price.

Maybe waiting a year, house values might go back up a bit and cancel some of the tax hit. Who knows, though?

8 posted on 04/29/2010 7:31:38 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: oh8eleven; All
Correct me if wrong but my understanding is that it is on capital gains over a certain thresh hold: $250k or something close to that.

Still bad enough. It'll really hit retirees who seek to downsize or sell a home they've long since paid for.

9 posted on 04/29/2010 7:31:42 AM PDT by riri
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To: Haiku Guy

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2478380/posts

http://www.gop.gov/blog/10/04/08/obamacare-flatlines-obamacare-taxes-home

http://www.cprights.org/2010/04/obamacare-taxes-home-sales.php

http://localhealthguideonline.com/view-obamacare-taxes-now-services-later/


10 posted on 04/29/2010 7:33:30 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: GailA
...the Congressional Budget Office estimates that under ObamaCare 8 million to 9 million people will lose their employer-provided coverage.

Wrong. EVERYONE will lose their employer-provided coverage. Employers have a financial incentive to discontinue their plans and dump their employees on public coverage.

Every employee in this country is going to find out in the next few years, just what this socialist takeover means to them. New taxes will be the least of our problems.

11 posted on 04/29/2010 7:33:54 AM PDT by Emile ("Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." -- A. Huxley)
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To: GailA
Watch how "funny" it gets when employers have to report the value of your health care plan on your W-2 Forms.

How does limiting your Flexible Spending Account election to $2500 a year, disallowing over the counter medication from being eligible for FSA reimbursements, and increasing the threshold for medical write-offs from 7% to 10% on your Federal Income Tax actually decrease the cost of heath care for the average American?

12 posted on 04/29/2010 7:37:56 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: GailA

Thanks for the links! I’ll follow them up.

I have told some of my still-supporting-Obama friends about this tax, and they did not believe me. This should help!


13 posted on 04/29/2010 7:39:18 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gov. Chris Christie (R) won the NJ-6 held by Rep. Frank Pallone (D) by a 15.5% margin!)
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To: GailA

REPEAL this piece of statist crap!!


14 posted on 04/29/2010 7:41:15 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: All

thanks to those in Wash state to those that helped elect the Zero. Here is your hope and change that you were promised


15 posted on 04/29/2010 7:45:43 AM PDT by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: oh8eleven

Unreal. The public is so stupid. Keep watching them NCAA ball games and reality TV.


16 posted on 04/29/2010 7:52:09 AM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain & Graham = La Raza's favorite Senators)
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To: GailA

This raises the price of the house by 3.8% when houses aren’t selling because people don’t qualify. This will not only affect the appraisal but the monthly payment as well.

Here’s another poke in the eye that’s coming soon. The current “rule” is the seller can pay all of the closing costs (4% on V.A. loans). That is being decreased to a total of $3,000 in June. June is also the last month the tax rebate will be paid. In Texas closing costs on a house priced at $150,000 will run around $6,000 including escrows. The FHA down payment will be around $5,250. As of now the seller can pay the closing costs so the buyer would need $5,250. Under the new rule a buyer would need $8,250 to purchase this house.

It appears to me islamabama is doing everything he can to completely destroy the housing market and to destroy the country.


17 posted on 04/29/2010 7:56:10 AM PDT by Terry Mross (an)
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To: GailA

I would really like more information about this. Is this 3.8% tax on “unearned income” essentially a capital gains tax or is it a tax on the gross sale price of the house? If it’s the latter, then that will kill the housing market stone cold dead. There are tons of people with negative equity in their house. They consider themselves lucky if they can short sale their house. Now, that would be a curse. If this is indeed the case, I would expect the amount of people walking away from their houses to skyrocket (to borrow a turn of phrase from Buraq).


18 posted on 04/29/2010 7:58:50 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: riri
Correct me if wrong ...
No, you're probably right and I say probably because I don't know if the proposed legislation eliminates or decrease that threshold.
Anyway, I'm SURE as long as it's only the "rich" getting boned, it'll NEVER happen to little ole' me.
19 posted on 04/29/2010 8:01:15 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: GailA

In the HELLthControl Bill?

Well, as long as I don’t have to share my sister’s dentures...geez oh petes.


20 posted on 04/29/2010 8:01:20 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: thecabal

I have a second home that is about near even or slightly under water. Maybe if I get lucky, I could make a few dollars, literally. If this is the case, I may as well just stop paying for it. (it is on the market now)


21 posted on 04/29/2010 8:03:23 AM PDT by riri
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22 posted on 04/29/2010 8:06:39 AM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: GailA

“People keep digging and finding new taxes in that sucker”.

3.8% tax on the sale of your home.
24% increase on taxes for interest, annuities and royalties.
189% increase on taxes on dividends (15% to 43.4%)
59% increase on capital gains taxes.

The feds used the cover of “health care” to raise taxes astronomically during a depression.

And a vat tax is coming.


23 posted on 04/29/2010 8:12:50 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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To: GailA

The wealthy can afford this tax but it is a big FU to the middle class !


24 posted on 04/29/2010 8:14:24 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: thecabal

I understand it’s a tax on “investment income”...i.e. 401K, IRA’s, ANNUITIES, homes, etc. It is NOT indexed for inflation, and it COULD affect rental income....and it is for those (RIGHT NOW) with incomes over $200K/$250K.


25 posted on 04/29/2010 8:34:11 AM PDT by goodnesswins (The PLANTATION Party is at it again (the DEMS) ....trying to make slaves of everyone)
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To: GailA

I feel a little bit better after reading this:

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/04/a-38-percent-sales-tax-on-your-home/


26 posted on 04/29/2010 8:54:30 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: Texas resident

Seems like it, and I bet nearly every bill the dems pass has a hidden tax in it. Especially if it is a HUGH bill.


27 posted on 04/29/2010 8:54:41 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: Haiku Guy

I believe in having several sources, especially if it happens to be in a lib or commie rag. When they start reporting it, then we know we are in deep doo, doo.

Even the commie rag Mother Jones like the lib Washington Comport reported the $523 Billion cut & gut of Medicare.


28 posted on 04/29/2010 8:58:13 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: GailA

How many of those members of Congress who voted for this monstrosity are aware of this tax buried in its bowels? We should all be pounding the tables in our Congressional offices to get this tax repealed. I doubt the MSM media will report this or call out Obama on his lie not to increase taxes on the middle class.


29 posted on 04/29/2010 9:04:34 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money'" M. Thatcher)
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To: goodnesswins

No, the way I understand it is on gains of over that amount.


30 posted on 04/29/2010 9:05:54 AM PDT by riri
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To: riri

HA...and Social Security was going to be 1% on those with incomes over $1,000,000 in the 1940’s....right? I just don’t trust anything coming out of this administration...or Congress.


31 posted on 04/29/2010 9:08:14 AM PDT by goodnesswins (The PLANTATION Party is at it again (the DEMS) ....trying to make slaves of everyone)
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To: frogjerk
"Watch how "funny" it gets when employers have to report the value of your health care plan on your W-2 Forms."

My daughter who works for a large company already got notice that starting in 2011 they will be showing the value of the health care they pay for on the W-2.

32 posted on 04/29/2010 9:10:05 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: goodnesswins

It’s bad any way you slice it.


33 posted on 04/29/2010 9:10:19 AM PDT by riri
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To: GailA

This was never a real health care bill. NEVER! It is a power grab and taxes bill. They need money, LOTS of it, to pay for the rest of the agenda. The coup might actually be complete by 2010.


34 posted on 04/29/2010 9:24:01 AM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: Haiku Guy
If this is true, it will kill the housing market, once and for all. There will be no recovery.

That's the point, everyone must live in Government housing in order
for the RATs to control how many times a day you can flush your toilet.


Neighborhood nannies are celebrating.

35 posted on 04/29/2010 9:33:42 AM PDT by MaxMax (Conservatism isn't a party)
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To: CORedneck

From one of the supposedly “wealthy” I cannot afford it. I already paid 6 figures in state and federal income tax last year. Now I will pay additional medicare tax and another big tax if I choose to sell my house and downsize once kids are out of college. What I paid in tax last year would nicely cover 4 years at a reasonable private college for one of my kids. But because I am “wealthy” I get no college write offs, loan programs etc, I just pay cash with what the government chooses to leave me.

Don’t get me wrong, no one is crying for me, nor do I expect them to. But I have worked hard for every penny the government is taking from me, and after taxes I am still living paycheck to paycheck. So be careful what you assume about the”wealthy”


36 posted on 04/29/2010 9:43:06 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: The Great RJ

How many of those members of Congress who voted for this monstrosity are aware of this tax buried in its bowels? “

I am beyond appalled at the fact that any member of Congress would vote for something they had not read & understood.

I am proposing that ANY member of Congress who votes for ANY bill or Revision of a bill who has NOT read every word & UNDERSTANDS every word of the bill be punished.

I propose a fine of $1,000,000 (ONE MILLION DOLLARS) for each and every vote of such nature, and a minimum of 5 (FIVE) years in prison for EACH such VOTE.
Fine is to be paid with person funds- not campaign funds or other donations.

Voters have a right to expect that their elected representatives & senators are prepared to read & understand what they are voting on in behalf of the American citizen.

Obviously, this isn’t happening.

I would propose said fines & imprisonment be doubled for the Speaker of the House and the Senate Leader, since Pelosi clearly stated “she would tell members what was in the bill AFTER they passed it”.

This behavior has to be stopped.

In light of the bills being passed by this session of Congress, I don’t feel that my proposals are burdensome to those 535 persons.


37 posted on 04/29/2010 9:58:59 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: The Great RJ

Probably the only one who wrote that portion. Send it VIRAL! Make sure some one you know in real estate knows about it.


38 posted on 04/29/2010 10:42:10 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: Mom MD
I should have been more clear, I am thing those like Warren Buffet, George Soros, William Gates Sr and son.

I busted my @$$ to own a house free and clear such as forgoing luxury type of cars which has got me in trouble with the corporate management. All about image.... If I liveraged myself, I could live in a extremely nice home like 4000 sqr ft but I prefer to be out of debt, therefore not be owned by "the man".

>Don’t get me wrong, no one is crying for me, nor do I expect them to. But I have worked hard for every penny the government is taking from me, and after taxes I am still living paycheck to paycheck. So be careful what you assume about the”wealthy”
39 posted on 04/29/2010 10:47:19 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: riri
Correct me if wrong but my understanding is that it is on capital gains over a certain thresh hold: $250k or something close to that.

That's my understanding, too.

40 posted on 04/29/2010 4:21:35 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction (I can see November from my house.)
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