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There is No Diplomaic Solution
ISRAPUNDIT ^ | May 1/10 | Ted Belman

Posted on 04/30/2010 5:12:32 AM PDT by tedbel

By Ted Belman What this means is that Obama has accepted that there is no diplomatic solution. As I have written many times before, he intends to impose a plan, in fact the Saudi Plan. He has already started the imposition by demanding a settlement freeze and the other things set out in this article. Negotiations are a sham. Israel will be given an erzats peace but will not get an end of conflict agreement or recognition by any Arab government that Israel is a Jewish state. We will get "normalized" relations, whatever that means.

On the other hand, Barry Rubin , The U.S.-Israel Crisis May Be Over and We Can "Celebrate" the Achievement of Nothing, believes that all that has happenned is that Obama can claim he got negotiations started, ignoring that he caused them to stop.

HaEtzni goes beyond the negotiations and concludes that it is all about imposing a plan. I agree with HaEtzni.

The Second War of Independence

Elyakim HaEtzni

Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu avoided attending the international nuclear conference in Washington in order to side step the mine that President Barack Obama had planted there for him and us.

What was the nature of that mine?

It’s not just Jerusalem or any particular clause in the document that Obama set before Netanyahu for his signature at their last meeting. At stake is the independence of the State of Israel. We are poised at the edge of a Second War of Independence, in which the Quartet, under America’s leadership, is playing the role of the British High Commissioner. Alex Fishman, in an article in “Yediot Achronot” from April 9th, details what Obama presented to Netanyahu for his signature:

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: imposedsolution; israel; obama; peaceprocess

1 posted on 04/30/2010 5:12:32 AM PDT by tedbel
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To: tedbel

He governs by decree in America so why can’t he dictate his will in the Middle-east?


2 posted on 04/30/2010 5:15:06 AM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: R0CK3T

Remember when Jesse Jackson said he’d like to cut Obama’s nuts off?

Bibi wouldn’t just talk about it...


3 posted on 04/30/2010 5:19:04 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: tedbel

And the world will say...peace, peace....


4 posted on 04/30/2010 5:36:28 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: tedbel
About the only thing this imposter posing as president has got half right since assuming his imposter ship in the White House is that there's no diplomatic solution to the Israel-Arab thing. After that he's in his usual place of being completely off the track.

When you look for a solution to a problem, it’s always good to look at the causes of the problem. Simple common-sense statements like that usually escape our atheistic Marxist/Communist/fascist friends because, of course, they’re not really looking for solutions to anything, because solving problems is not in their game plan. Their game plan consists of an agenda to be achieved at whatever cost it takes. Silly things like truth and honor and liberty are roadblocks to their brain-twisted utopian dream of totalitarian dictatorship.

But I digress. Back to the truth of the Arab-Israel problem which has not only escaped this current illegal enemy administration but the other previous legitimate, semi-benign administrations as well.

The reason for the Arab-Israel problem is simple: the Arabs hate the Jews and want to destroy Israel. Nothing new. It started with Ishmael hating and persecuting Isaac thousands of years ago. Israel is right where she belongs and the Arabs are the instigators of terrorism against Israel and everybody else. The Arabs would rather die than see Israel established because behind all of this, as always, is a spiritual issue: in this case it is the devil who has always hated God’s people and wants to wipe them out. The solution is to show the Arabs strong and determined resistance. It has been shown that when these terrorists are met with determined, deadly force they go back to hide in their caves for fear.

But crazily, the world ignores this terrorist threat and sides with these crazies against God’s people, Israel, and eventually, even crazier, will try to wage a war against the Lord God himself to their own destruction (Armageddon). America, here and elsewhere, has been a light in an increasingly dark world. Obama’s trying to extinguish that light. If America goes, watch out, because the world will go very quickly.

If you’re a Christian, take comfort, for the Lord will appear soon to meet his people in the air and take them to be with him forever. I Thess 4:17. As the Lord promised the church of Philadelphia (alive and well today), he will “keep [his people] from the hour of temptation (testing), which will come upon the whole world, to try them which live on the earth.” Rev 3:10. What’s coming on the earth will be a horrific time when most of the people on earth will be killed. The nuclear arsenal that is now being assembled by friend and foe alike, those of sound mind and those who are not, testifies to this coming horror. If you don’t know Jesus, come to him and receive him as your Savior and he will save you to the uttermost. He is, as He always has been, the only answer (it’s just becoming more obvious now). “[A]nd there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time...” Dan 12:1. “For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” Matt 24:21

5 posted on 04/30/2010 7:04:18 AM PDT by Jim W N
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6 posted on 04/30/2010 11:12:53 AM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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This is, no contest, the most disturbing article I have ever read on the Israeli/Palestinian-Arab-Muslim Conflict.

It tracks much too well with my own gut feeling about 0bama’s intentions, based on his empathies, history and advisors.

This is the meaning of his Cairo Speech; he is not interested in being an Historic American hero, but a hero to the Wretched of the Earth, especially the Muslim World.

I believe his “peace” strategy is tied up with a grand scheme to acknowledge Iran as a nuclear power using the rationale that it is a counterweight to Israeli nuclear capability.

This is a disaster, and will lead to a nuclear exchange within a few months or years, baring Divine Intervention.

He believes himself Noble, but he is acting on Evil, perhaps not of his own understanding.


7 posted on 04/30/2010 2:34:00 PM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that 0bama will resign)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Peace.. Peace...

Perhaps the reason why 0bama has never set foot in Israel is that he intends to go there when he has proclaimed himself Messsiah.


8 posted on 04/30/2010 2:35:17 PM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that 0bama will resign)
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To: Jim 0216
behind all of this, as always, is a spiritual issue: in this case it is the devil who has always hated God’s people and wants to wipe them out.

Islam = Ishmael still wanting the birhtright of Isaac.

America, here and elsewhere, has been a light in an increasingly dark world. Obama’s trying to extinguish that light. If America goes, watch out, because the world will go very quickly.

Amen, and again I say amen.

9 posted on 04/30/2010 2:39:40 PM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that 0bama will resign)
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To: happygrl

Actually, he was there as a candidate. Perhaps you’ll recall his “prayer” left at the wall was (of course, unexpectedly) “revealed” to the media.


10 posted on 04/30/2010 4:16:27 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: tedbel

Crud, he’s so damned lost. I really think the devil is not just in the details but up his tail. Friggen Wahabis’s playing the game and O just dallying and bowing and , well, seems to have sold his sould a long time ago.


11 posted on 04/30/2010 8:26:18 PM PDT by Karliner ("Things are more like they are now than they ever were before."DDE)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Oh, I had forgotten that.

He was in campaign mode, playing up to Jews and Israelis as though he cared, only to set them up for a stab in the back, now that he’s been elected and has POWER.


12 posted on 04/30/2010 9:50:19 PM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that 0bama will resign)
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