Skip to comments.A DISASTER WITHOUT PRECEDENT
Posted on 04/30/2010 10:22:46 PM PDT by Cedar
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May be Obama the know it all person can find an engineering solution for this problem. I am certain his extensive experience as community organizer in inner city Chicago made him a super engineer, ( as well as an super MD, a super economist, a super financial wiz, a super scientist, etc...)... (super extreme sarcasm).
We need maybe a marine engineer or someone who knows a lot about drilling to tell us if it is possible AT ALL for this to have happened due to human tampering.
The number one suspect is the Middle East oil groups. They have much to lose if the US can successfully drill for oil on our own shores.
Someone already posted a conspiracy saying it was a North Korean torpedo.
I suppose it is conceivable that there may have been tampering with the rig, or extreme carelessness, but how the hell would that account for a valve that is a mile below the surface not working properly? I thought the valve was supposed to be practically fail safe.
Sounds too much like a Winston Churchill speech. He only needs to add, "We will never surrender."
16 years of Bush and Clinton with thousands of offshore wells. Not one blow out.
We have someone now who bows to the Saudi King named Hussein. A Saudi king who makes probably 3/4 of a trillion a year selling us oil. Who could make a trillion if our energy industry is harmed.
Cameron’s blowout valve supposedly fails on the sea bed? I am not buying it.
There should be plenty of those experts all over the news 24/7, but there aren’t any at all.
It’s almost like someone doesn’t want people talking about this.
I wonder why...
There are already some 500 oil wells in the Caribbean, somehow I find it hard to believe the the Middle east oil groups would want to risk the bad publicity on ONE rig.
Here comes $7.00/gal gasoline
Exactly. That is why I would like to know for sure if it was just an accident... and put to rest the thoughts of possible marine terrorism.
FR has many experts. I’m hoping someone can elaborate and explain.
Do you know who manufactured the valve?
I’m willing to bet the Blow Out Preventer was made in China. We have already lost planes, a bridge, and other things to steel marked as a higher quality than it actually is.
I am not expert but they have redundancy back ups on everything. No blow outs on thousands of wells in 16 years of Bush and Clinton.
Major hurricanes have blown through the gulf - big ones and pipes were scattered, some platforms damaged, a real mess but the well heads all held up.
I smell a rat.
Mark Levin had a person who was on the scene when the blowout happened. It was a once in a hundred years freak gas blow out, not sabotage or terrorism or intentional. Eleven men were killed in the blowout. The story should beabout them, not Barry’s use to try and take control of the oiul industry, yet. The sonofabitch in the Oval Office is sending an army of lawyers to the scene. He intends for it to escalate as far as he can manage it, to mkae THE crisis Rahm deadfish Emanuel wants to exploit and Maxine Waters has already spilled the beans is coming ... to quote the commie bitch threatening the oil industry execs: ‘This liberal will be all about socializing, er, taking over your companies.’
this would be like Micheal Chrichton's State of fear in real life.
Did the person on the scene say there was absolutely no possibility of tampering?
What about human error? Or was it totally just caused by the pressure?
Who says the accident took place way down deep, first?
This “platform” is a ship with multiple azipod engines litterally keeping it hovering over the drill site, 5,000’ down.
Torpedo the ship, explode it,turtle it and sink it.
What happens to all that 5,000’ of drill pipe etc? Could bust a hundred ways.
That's what makes me curious. Airline crash, volcano eruption, tsunami, you name the disaster and the airwaves and bandwidth are overrun with experts. Not this time. I hate it when circumstances start encouraging thoughts of conspiracy and sabotage. I have never heard what caused the fire that started all this.
I also find it very strange that we've not heard, to the best of my knowledge, from a single survivor of the event. I would expect all sorts of written and broadcast interviews of those who were on board. Not a word. No stories of where they were on the rig, what they were doing, how they learned of the event, nothing.
Seems to me if you have what it takes to get a totally unprepared and unqualified person elected to the office of the POTUS, then it shouldn't be out of your league to cause a massive oil drilling event.
That is exactly right.
Anytime something big occurrs, the media are like piranah. non-stop 24/7, expert after expert, and when they run out of those, they start interviewing themselves.
NONE OF THIS IS OCCURRING.
This vaccuum is quite telling.
Something HUGE is being hidden, and that is all there is to it.
The scheduled test had just been done and approved by the toughest inspection process in any industry including the nuclear. The well was being reopened and the gass blast came as an over pressure sudden surge. This was a freak accident, not sabotage. This sort of accident is why the process is inherently dangerous dealing with such pressures as 40,000 pounds per square inch!
I do not have all the details. Was it a fixed or tethered latform or was it a drilling ship/platform?
Was it drilling or a producing well?
I thought it was a producing well. You could have had a scuba crew attach explosives.
I think the actual drilling ship/platforms have an even better safety record.
Something is not adding up.
Mark Levin spoke on the radio today with a survivor who confirmed it was a gas blowout.
I’m posting the link here to Mark Levin’s interview with the survivor. Interesting so far, though pretty technical.
Check the Mark Levin archive for today, end of the second hour and start of the third hour. An eyewitness spoke with Mark on-air ... ‘James’.
Now consider this bit of info:
Dan Riehl brought to light an interesting piece of trivia related to the offshore drilling rig disaster in the Gulf of Mexico. It appears the blame for this event, one of historys worst environmental disasters, cant be shuffled off to President George W. Bush.
Thats right! It seems the initial exploration plan for the British Petroleum-owned Macondo prospect was, according to the folks at OffshoreTechnology.com, approved by the folks at the Minerals Management Service in March 2009. MMS falls under the supervision of Interior Secretary Ken Salazar and, by working your way up the federal food chain, the approval authority lands squarely on the desk of President Barack Obama.
Whoops Salazar and Obammy Ok'd this project! NOT BUSH"S FAULT!
The template of the story changed to the leaking oil not what happened. The govt controlled media switches track to the template the govt wants.
You are right. Figure out their agenda by what they are not saying.
From what I can piece together it was a drilling ship that says at a fixed position by computer and GPS control over the well.
Someone said it is a once in a lifetime possible gas pocket blow out. So the gas could have race up the piping and the ship caught fire and sank?
I know a little about the technology and these guys are really good. The amazing and incredible is common for them. They drill these wells worldwide. The technolgy for this advanced deep drilling ships is probably a decade old. Thousands of wells like this drilled nd it has never happened before?
I do not buy it.
People talk about “high tech” but the oil drilling industry is probably one of the most high tech industries in the world. They rarely if ever make mistakes.
I just finished reading the following FR post — Louisiana Spill: Big Oil’s Chernobyl. Somewhere in all of that, probably in a comment was something about the maker of the valve, also makers of other components.
But the timing of the explosion was certainly perfect.
Still posting drug-induced nothings from your grandma’s basement, I see.
Nor do I, Frantzie.
From the stories I heard today, most especially the haliburton employee who called savage, it does not seem like an explosion of this magnitude could occur based on a number of factors.
Although this man sounded very knowledgable, I cannot verify anything he said, because I have no knowledge of these things.
However, what I do have knowledge of is american media, because i read and view it all the time. The fact that no one like this man has been interviewed... heck, they haven’t even interviewed people that would confirm that it was caused naturally.
SILENCE is all there is, except for reports on the spreading oil.
The Mark Levin interview is very good. The guy basically ends up saying the accident was due to “mother nature” or possible negligence, though he obviously leans towards the mother nature explanation.
I agree the silence is very strange. Every other type of accident has experts and survivors appearing on TV all day long, but not this one.
And why would this rig worker’s identity have to be a secret?
That is unreal. To put it in perspective, a 12 gauge shotgun load is limited to about 11,500 psi, and that for just a fraction of a second.
Just read the FR post you mentioned— some very good information posted there by those who seem to know the industry.
A DISASTER WITHOUT PRECEDENT
” $7.00 dollar a gallon gasoline “
No! Here comes $10.00 per gallon gasoline.
$10 gas? In that case, here comes the electric car to the forefront!
It’s no disaster!
When I was a kid more oil than that boiled to the surface NATURALLY 24/7 and wound up on the braches from Santa Barbara to the Mexican border and the only harm was that when i went to the beach I got scrubed down in a washtub with kerosene to remove the tar before I could come in the house.
I doesn’t happen today because of the offshore oil drilling that reduced the gas presure and only a small amount, comparatavially, boils up today.
Didn’t realize. How did the wildlife survive along those beaches?
Read the article excerpt posted at this link:
“25,000 barrel-a-day leak rate” is the current estimate and it could go to 100,000 barrels a day. At just the 25K rate, it rivals the Exxon Valdez spill.
This really is a disaster, unfortunately.
“How did the wildlife survive along those beaches?”
The ones that dies of old age washed up on the beach covered with tar!
“This really is a disaster, unfortunately.”
No damn way and neither was Valdez!!!!
just bookmarking an interesting article. :)
OK, I am just a bystander and have no special knowledge of the area nor the oil industry. You do. So question, please. Was there that much oil washing up on the coast when you were a kid? Those enviro programs about the Valdez spill made it look so bad that I would never have guessed that things could be that way naturally.
I did not mean to offend you, I just have never heard anyone talk about that nor have I ever read it anywhere.
There was so much tar on the beach atr Goleta that in the 1500s the Spanish beached their ships to tar thew bottoms.
In the 50s when I was going with my wife you couldn’t even go on the beach at slough U, UC Santa Barbara, because there was so much tar.
Clear into the late 60s there was an oil slick from the Horshoe Kelp to the Mexican border because of the oil boiling to the surface from that spot 7 miles off Long Beach.