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Why Congressional Republicans avoid the Obama Eligibility Issue
The Post & Email ^ | 5/2/2010 | John F. Sweeney

Posted on 05/02/2010 10:06:04 AM PDT by Menehune56

In discussions concerning the constitutional eligibility of Barrack Hussein Obama II for the office of President of the United States, many point out that if there were a real issue, the Republicans would have leveraged it in 2008 to retain control of the White House. But it was well-documented at the time, and additional documentation and analysis have established, that John McCain’s eligibility was in question as well. With that being the case, why would the Republicans nominate a candidate who might not be constitutionally eligible to serve in the office?

The answer may be a simple one – the 2008 race was going to the Democrats and the Republicans did not want a leading candidate for 2012 to lose or be roughed up during the campaign. So the solution – let the man who needed to win in 2008, if he was ever going to be president, run – even if he might not be constitutionally eligible. Was this a grand conspiracy by the Republican Party? No, it was just simple pragmatic political strategy.

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KEYWORDS: 111th; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; gop; naturalborncitizen; obama; republicans; republicrats; rinos
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To: Menehune56
The Republicans didn't press Obama on his eligibility because it would have been very damaging politically and possibly to physical property and life.

The liberals and leftists have made racism and any hint of racism so damaging and radioactive that any direct, damaging attack on Barack Obama would either have been political suicide and/or the beginning of 1960's style race riots.

Since a growing majority of Americans are blissfully ignorant of Constitutional principles, this threat was all the more real as such an attack would have seemed unwarranted and fueled by bigotry only.

On the other hand, many patriotic Americans would have endured those things not to have elected a usurper.

But, if the Republicans lost too many seats, then the possibility of stopping the Democrat Party became only a remote possibility for the foreseeable future.

41 posted on 05/02/2010 12:22:36 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: Menehune56

Republicans didn’t bring it up because they are first rate spineless wimps, frightened to death of being accused of raaaaacism. Much easier and safer to hide under your desk...like Mitchie the kid McConnell.


42 posted on 05/02/2010 12:28:59 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Eagle Eye

eye
You might think 0dumbo was weak but you were alone and you couldn’t have paid any attention to the media coverage of him. not coverge, worshiping of him, hours and hours of his campaign showing the POS promising everything to every Dem/ Lib group, A dem party tired of coming in second. Don’t the screaming crying crowds.
Weak? he was one of the strongest candidate’s the Dems ever fielded aided by a fawning MSM.


43 posted on 05/02/2010 12:34:09 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Menehune56

That article is bs pure and simple. McCain had no support and was on his way home supposedly; only the public didn’t know the democrats and I am assuming Republicans had already set the wheels in motion for a selected election.

Why do they keep lying to us?


44 posted on 05/02/2010 12:37:54 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Star Traveler; All

“I’ve had FReepers tell me that they refused to vote for John McCain because he was not qualified per the Constitution.”

The strength of forums like FR are also, to a lesser extent, it weakness. This forum has people of many different opinions and the only thing they agree on is their dislike of the Left side of politics.

Grab any ten Freepers at random and as them what they think about a particular issue....you will get eleven opinions.


45 posted on 05/02/2010 12:42:07 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: LucyT

One that has been told to stay off eligibility threads is already in!!!


46 posted on 05/02/2010 12:54:51 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Menehune56
He confuses the two questions: "Was McCain eligible?" and "Could McCain make an issue out of Obama's eligibility?"

McCain was eligible, but because of the circumstances of his birth, he wasn't in a position to push the Obama birth certificate issue.

If his own birth certificate said "Colon, Panama" he couldn't make an issue out of Obama's birthplace.

But candidates don't usually do that themselves. It was up to the public to press the issue.

In practice that usually means the media. And of course, they didn't. State legislatures might also have made it an issue, but they didn't.

There's a constitutional question involved -- if Hawaii certifies that they have Obama's birth certificate can another state try to get around their attestation?

Also, lawyers don't like to ask questions they don't know the answers to. If they don't know what they'll find, people with a stake in the matter tend not to press things.

47 posted on 05/02/2010 12:57:51 PM PDT by x
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To: RWGinger

He was weak and the media coverage proved it.

He had no resume, no back ground, no accomplishments.

Obama was not Bush. Period.

McCain was a weak candidate and barely lost despite all the obama media worship.

McCain practically had to throw his whole campaign in order to lose the race.


48 posted on 05/02/2010 1:00:44 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Menehune56
The truth is much simpler. The higher echelons of either party never doubted their candidate was eligible. Neither, apparently, did any individual state's election officials, any elector, or any of those certifying the election. And that's with all these issues everyone is carrying on about known as stipulated facts (McCain not born in the US, Obama having a foreign national father). So at worst, it was an understandable mistake given the number of people who made it.

At best, it ought to prompt some reconsideration of the viability of this issue.

49 posted on 05/02/2010 1:04:19 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative
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To: Eagle Eye

Eagle
he was weak to you only because you took the time to read his thin resume and read his positions. His weakness to you was his ideology. To his masses THAT was a strength
He was the Messiah to him millions of worshippers which as you pointed out included the media.


50 posted on 05/02/2010 1:09:49 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Menehune56

> Why Congressional Republicans avoid the Obama Eligibility Issue
I’d say brown lips. Obama is not eligible and that’s all there is to it. Denying is is just being RINO.


51 posted on 05/02/2010 1:35:37 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Comrade O has to go.)
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To: Menehune56

I despise McCain to the point I voted for Romney since Thompson dropped out (Romney being the only one left with any chance of beating McCain in Arizona).

The idea millions of voters made strategic decisions based on fear of challenging Obama as ineligible is silly. I called Obama far worse that ineligible during the election...I still can’t believe the Rev Wright’s sermons didn’t take him out of the contention.


52 posted on 05/02/2010 1:36:53 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Now the 60k question is, why didn't bammie need a resolution too?

That's been my question too. My guess is that Obama saw that McCain made his long form BC available and didn't want any questions about why he didn't do that too. Obama no doubt figured that the RNC would be too afraid of the racist tag to raise the issue and that the lapdog media would cover for him in any event. So far he's been right, unfortunately.

53 posted on 05/02/2010 1:38:08 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Polarik; Fractal Trader

“McCain’s BC was doctored to make it appear that he was born in the Panama Canal Zone.”

Oh Lord. How can I start/fight this. I fractured my left elbow a couple of weeks ago, and I just want to go to bed now. It does not hurt. I am just tired…maybe it’s stress.

Anyway, McCain’s “birth certificate” shown on FR was his Certificate of Live Birth …It was not “doctored.” It told the truth. It is a legitimate CoLB. Unlike Obama’s, McCains’s CoLB was truthful and showed he was born in Colon, Republic of Panama and not the CZ. (This still would not have made him eligible to run for president.)

A few days later, I went to Panama’s official public registry to dig up his official birth record in Colon. The staff and I combed the computers, official written documents before, during, and after the year his birth and nothing.

Why did nothing show up? Because it is up to a parent to take the child’s birth certificate to the national registry and record it. If not, there is no “public” record of it in RP. The McCain’s never did that. They left without recording his birth in Panama. BUT, they were required to show his official Panamanian birth certificate to the Canal Zone which showed he was born in Colon, Republic of Panama. If not produced, he would never have received his CoLB from the CZ.

If am ever in Colon, I will go directly to the Amador Guerrero Hospital where he was born and ask for a copy of his BC. But I don’t plan a trip to Colon soon. It is a dangerous town. Maybe a lawyer friend of mind can pull some strings and call in some favors, but I am not going to plan on it.

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54 posted on 05/02/2010 1:53:41 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: x

“McCain was eligible...”

No. He never was eligible. Read my posts.


55 posted on 05/02/2010 2:01:05 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: x

“McCain was eligible...”

No. He never was eligible. Read my posts.


56 posted on 05/02/2010 2:04:39 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

It has a lot of people frustrated. We don’t want to think badly of our countrymen, we don’t like this feeling of unease, and we are not into conspiracy theories. BUT, and it’s a big but, this whole thing stinks to high heaven. The unease about all the things that make no sense leaves us to wonder about conclusions that have been drawn, none of which makes us feel safe or intact as a country. The word coup comes to mind far too often, and if there was nothing to it, why would our countrymen NOT put the minds of the American people at ease over it?? Nothing makes sense, and that a huge problem.


57 posted on 05/02/2010 2:15:55 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: RWGinger

I agree. One of the stupidist political analyses I have ever glanced at. It’s even too stupid for the Stupid Party to espouse.


58 posted on 05/02/2010 2:17:26 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: Oldpuppymax

I have often wondered if they are frightened about more than just that.


59 posted on 05/02/2010 2:19:57 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Gee! I share your feeling. You described it very cleverly! Obama’s eligibility just sticks in my gut!

What bothers me the most is the near complete silence on the part of the conservative media: Rush, Hannity, Beck, Ingram, Levin, and the rest.

What WEENIES! They have gonads the size of dust mites!

In all relationships there is always a “deal breaker” point. It is true in marriage, friendships, business, and even stores that one will patronize.

Well...These conservative yappers are running a business. They are “selling” their reputation for delivering honest reporting on conservative issues of importance.

That Rush, Beck, Hannity...and the rest, have BRAZENLY, and with complete gall, ignored Obama’s eligibility is a flat out DEAL BREAKER for me. I absolutely will never trust their integrity again.

Beck tears up over the Constitution? Rush has the utter **contempt** to write Friday a week ago that he cares about the Constitution? Coulter calls those with reasonable concerns “CRANKS”? OReilly waves print out from the Internet and lies to his viewers that he has seen the birth certificate. UNBELIEVABLE!

These guys are phonies or cowards!

If Rush, Beck, Coulter ( and the rest) are phonies, then when tryanny comes they will sell their talents to fascist oligarchy. They will spit shine the jack boots crushing our necks.

If Rush, Beck, Hannity, Ingram, ( and the rest) are cowards then the time to report is NOW!!! Because....

** The fascist oligarchy will carry out their threats anyway.
** The fascist oligarchy will throw them off the air anyway.
** The fascist oligarchy will steal their money anyway.

What I find amazing is that 40% to 50% of Americans have serious questions about Obama’s eligibility. Likely the percentage is higher than that since the polls were mostly contracted for by liberal/Marxist sponsors.

Imagine that! Nearly half the country knows about Obama’s eligibility through pure word of mouth and the Internet.

In one way, Obama has orchestrated an enormous Alinsky win. Surely I can be the only conservative who is absolutely revolted by Rush, Beck, Hannity ( and the rest). Obama has succeeded in driving a great big wedge of distrust between the conservative talk show yappers and likely a significant percentage of their customer base.

Personally, if there is ever a serious alternative to those guys and gals on Fox News, as well as Rush and the other yappers, I will be GONE in a nanosecond!

60 posted on 05/02/2010 3:17:36 PM PDT by wintertime
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