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Suspect Sought in Foiled Times Square Bomb Plot
Wall St. Journal ^ | 05/02/10 | JOEL STONINGTON, R.M. SCHNEIDERMAN, DEVLIN BARRETT

Posted on 05/02/2010 3:21:05 PM PDT by OldDeckHand

A failed car bomb smoked, popped and shut down Times Square, causing panic, evacuations and confusion Saturday on one of the tourist spot's busiest nights. Most of the streets in the area were reopened Sunday morning, though a heavy police presence remained in the area.

New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said officers are heading to a town in Pennsylvania to talk to a man who believes he may have recorded a bombing suspect on his video camera. Police are looking a for a white male in his 40s who was seen shedding a dark shirt with a red shirt underneath, he said at an afternoon press conference. Investigators are now looking through "hundreds of hours of surveillance videos," Mr. Kelly added.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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The story contains this paragraph that I found interesting...

On Sunday afternoon, a law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity said the Nissan Pathfinder had been traced back to Texas, where it had been recorded as scrapped. Mr Kelly, at an afternoon press conference, said that the vehicle was not reported stolen.

Cash for Clunkers? The vehicle didn't appear to be heavily damaged in a way that you might normally expect a car to have a scrapped title.

1 posted on 05/02/2010 3:21:06 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Well maybe this can just be called a ‘prank’ ...


2 posted on 05/02/2010 3:24:10 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Those That Turn Their Swords into Plows Will Plow For Those That Don't.)
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To: OldDeckHand

And the SUV was parked in front of the Viacom building. Viacom of course owns Comedy Central which got intimidated into censoring a recent South Park episode into removing any visual or auditory references to Muhammad.


3 posted on 05/02/2010 3:27:10 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: OldDeckHand

An NYPD truck with a bomb protective vault on the back rushes past leaving New York's Times Square where a Nissan Pathfinder sport utility vehicle was found packed with bomb materials, May 1, 2010.

U.S. President Barack Obama (L) delivers jokes as members of the head table, including David Jackson of USA Today (C) and White House Press Secretary DavidGibbs (R), laugh at the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner in Washington, May 1, 2010.

4 posted on 05/02/2010 3:31:14 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (It Matters Not What You Fight But What You Fight For.)
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5 posted on 05/02/2010 3:32:46 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR.......Monthly Donors Wanted.)
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To: OldDeckHand

1500 hundred quatloos we won’t see a picture/description of the guy nor his religious affiliation...just be on the lookout for a “guy”.


6 posted on 05/02/2010 3:33:20 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Dallas59

In a white van.


7 posted on 05/02/2010 3:34:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: OldDeckHand

Yes, it does sound like cash for clunkers. You can’t get a salvage title, - well in theory you can’t, but we have the liar’s affidavit here in TX - but you have what was it? how many thousand clunkers turned in for the 4000.00 credit in TX alone?

Fantastic opportunity to get an untraceable vehicle for a crime.


8 posted on 05/02/2010 3:36:06 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I’m sure there’s no connection.

We must all be on the lookout for 2 white males driving a white van, most likely veterans of the US military.

/Chief Moose bit my sister


9 posted on 05/02/2010 3:37:05 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, mine!)
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To: Dallas59

With a red shirt on.


10 posted on 05/02/2010 3:38:09 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: SkyDancer

**Well maybe this can just be called a ‘prank’ ...**

We can also call it a SUCCESSFUL TERRORIST ATTACK.
Placed the bomb successfully, Detonated it correctly... LUCKILY... the bomb itself FAILED... the rest was quite successful.


11 posted on 05/02/2010 3:38:29 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (The one thing we learn from history is .. People REFUSE to Learn from History!!)
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To: Dallas59

Bonus points for using “quatloos” in a FR post.

[what are the odds of *that*?]....;]


12 posted on 05/02/2010 3:39:29 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, mine!)
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To: Salamander

A white van with a “Palin In 2012” bumper sticker and a dancing Jesus on the dashboard.


13 posted on 05/02/2010 3:40:07 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: Dallas59

2000 quatloos we won’t even hear if a suspect is captured


14 posted on 05/02/2010 3:40:38 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (The one thing we learn from history is .. People REFUSE to Learn from History!!)
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To: OldDeckHand
Cash for Clunkers? The vehicle didn't appear to be heavily damaged in a way that you might normally expect a car to have a scrapped title.

More than likely there was some damage to the vehicle, which was totaled by the insurance company as being cheaper to total than repair. At that point, it would have a salvage title - which many take to be as a vehicle that has been scrapped. You can buy vehicles with salvage titles.

15 posted on 05/02/2010 3:42:00 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: OldDeckHand

How long will it take Janet to find the muzzies who did this, quietly whisk them away to sanctuary in one of our newly created “allies”, and to quickly pin this on some rotten, good-for-nothing anti-government type somewhere in the heartland?


16 posted on 05/02/2010 3:42:34 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: gwilhelm56

Fox mentioned that 2009 saw more terrorist threats, attempts and attacks than 2001-2008, combined.

Hmmm.

What’s changed?


17 posted on 05/02/2010 3:43:03 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, mine!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

And “Lifetime NRA Member” and “Every Abortion Stops A Beating Heart” stickers.


18 posted on 05/02/2010 3:44:43 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, mine!)
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To: gwilhelm56

I was making a sarcastic statement - that defense lawyer at the trial of the kid accused of hacking Palin’s email account was just calling it a prank ... not the illegal accessing ...and that’s the way I think the media will play it out when they discover the guy who did it was a Democrat/Liberal/activist ....


19 posted on 05/02/2010 3:45:25 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Those That Turn Their Swords into Plows Will Plow For Those That Don't.)
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To: gwilhelm56

20 posted on 05/02/2010 3:45:26 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: OldDeckHand
Here's a white guy in a red shirt:


21 posted on 05/02/2010 3:47:36 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: OwenKellogg
Here's another white guy (although ambiguous about the guy part) with a red shirt:


22 posted on 05/02/2010 3:49:04 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: SkyDancer

I’d like to prank that lawyer with his own SUV!!


23 posted on 05/02/2010 3:49:41 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (The one thing we learn from history is .. People REFUSE to Learn from History!!)
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To: OldDeckHand
I found another white guy with a red shirt:

Although, he doesn't appear "furtive".

24 posted on 05/02/2010 3:50:48 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: OwenKellogg
Here is a furtive white guy with a red shirt!


25 posted on 05/02/2010 3:52:32 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: OwenKellogg

The broad behind him looks like a professional blind date.


26 posted on 05/02/2010 3:53:22 PM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

I thought the whole point of Cash for Clunkers was to get the vehicle molten back into metal for China, or sent to Mexican drivers, not re-sold in America.


27 posted on 05/02/2010 3:53:29 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: OwenKellogg

LOL & all of your posts. Good ones!


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29 posted on 05/02/2010 3:55:38 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: Hoodat

LOL!


30 posted on 05/02/2010 3:55:42 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: OldDeckHand

sounds like “cash for clunkers”

how creative. And suggests rather long term planning

Here’s a 2007 article (one of many online) about a smoking car bomb discovered and defused in commercial area of London - also debunked at the time as an amateur bomb

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/06/29/london-police-defuse-mass_n_54291.html


31 posted on 05/02/2010 3:55:48 PM PDT by silverleaf (Karl Marx was not one of the founding fathers ....)
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To: OwenKellogg
I spotted that dangerous rabbel rouser in Michigan last fall. I kew he was trouble when I spotted the Gadsen flag.

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32 posted on 05/02/2010 4:00:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: txhurl
The Cash for Clunkers trade-ins were supposed to be prominently defaced with paint that would mar the exterior supposedly to prevent resale in the used car market. But if it was a Clunker it could have been shipped to a scrap dealer in the Northeast. From the story:

[Investigators said that the vehicle's Connecticut license plates didn't match the make of the car. The license plate's last known location was Kramer's Used Auto Parts in Stratford, Conn., according to a law enforcement official familiar with the investigation. No one answered the phone there Sunday.]

The Clunker could have gone from the scrap dealer to this parts dealer even though the Clunker rules prohibit it. Someone may have stolen the Pathfinder from Kramer's along with a license plate from another vehicle in the yard. Or Kramer's may have repainted the Pathfinder and been using it for deliveries, etc. When someone stole it they couldn't report it because it was obtained illegally.

33 posted on 05/02/2010 4:01:27 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: cripplecreek

Put out an APB for Jim Thompson!


34 posted on 05/02/2010 4:02:40 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: cripplecreek

Is that Jim Thompson?


35 posted on 05/02/2010 4:02:45 PM PDT by Califreak (Silence is golden. Duct tape is silver.)
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To: Califreak

Or an alias.


36 posted on 05/02/2010 4:06:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Salamander

OHH, OHHH! I KNOW, I KNOW! PICK ME!!!!
<frantic hand waving


37 posted on 05/02/2010 4:07:35 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Salamander
What’s changed?

What's changed is our approach to terrorism...

We've gone from taking the fight to "the bad guys" to bowing down and appeasing them.  Obama is worse than Carter on so many levels. The foreign policy agenda of political correctness will inevitably massacre millions of innocent Americans, who spent a Saturday night at a Broadway musical, unnecessarily.

38 posted on 05/02/2010 4:07:45 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: IYAS9YAS
"You can buy vehicles with salvage titles. "

You can. It may be sloppy reporting, or poorly chosen words by the unnamed LEO. But, TX has several levels of salvage title, with one of them being "non-operative title" (or something like that) and this is to be the title given to the cash for clunkers vehicles - cars that were not to be repaired.

I suppose it's possible that someone purchased a vehicle legitimately, that had a salvage TX title, and then repaired it to a level that restored it to what appears to be without defect, as the car in the videos and pictures appears to be without defect, with the intentions of blowing it up.

Or, might it be more likely that someone got their hands on one of the tens of thousands of vehicles that was supposed to be sent to the crusher, only to be sold illegally. I think the LEO's words - "recorded as scrapped", is more reflective of this scenario, than the former scenario. Remember, it wasn't reported as stolen.

39 posted on 05/02/2010 4:07:50 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: cripplecreek

: )


40 posted on 05/02/2010 4:08:38 PM PDT by Califreak (Silence is golden. Duct tape is silver.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I could swear in TX the engine was to be disabled via mangling or somesuch rendering the vehicle inoperable.


41 posted on 05/02/2010 4:08:51 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: OldDeckHand

Odd, unless it was flooded?


42 posted on 05/02/2010 4:09:08 PM PDT by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: OldDeckHand

The media is praising the cops. The real hero was the observant street vender who told them. The three cops in the area acted admirably once clued in, but without the citizen “first reporter” those first responders might have been too late.


43 posted on 05/02/2010 4:10:42 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Remember 321)
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To: cripplecreek

Hi, Jim!

Pardon us while we try to figger out this terra attack.


44 posted on 05/02/2010 4:12:30 PM PDT by txhurl (txflake)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

So they investigated a suspected car bombing and found a loophole in the Cash 4 Clunkers program? That’s hilarious.


45 posted on 05/02/2010 4:14:03 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: txhurl; Brad from Tennessee
"I could swear in TX the engine was to be disabled via mangling or somesuch rendering the vehicle inoperable."

It was, at least it was for two of my kids that bought vehicles during the Clunkers porgram. Some kind of agent was poured into the fuel tank that permanently incapacitated the engine.

I think Brad is onto something with respect to the vehicle being obtained illegally, and why the salvage yard in CT might not be cooperative. It's possible that they should have had the vehicle, and/or that they resold it, illegally.

46 posted on 05/02/2010 4:17:03 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: gwilhelm56

Yeah, me too ... these lawyers come up with all sorts of excuses for their clients crimes ...


47 posted on 05/02/2010 4:18:33 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Those That Turn Their Swords into Plows Will Plow For Those That Don't.)
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To: silverleaf
"... how creative. And suggests rather long term planning ..."

I don't think so, because the bomb itself was described as "amateurish". If there had been lots of planning involved here, you'd have to assume they would have put more effort into making the bomb. Rather, this suggests to me that whoever may be responsible has some connection to the used car or salvage business directly or indirectly, because that part of the plan, unlike the rest of it, was done with considerable skill.

48 posted on 05/02/2010 4:27:38 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: OldDeckHand; Brad from Tennessee

Yes, Brad is.

CT plates. There would be a C4C record for a Connecticut car going level 4 (adios, MOFO) salvage title in TX, wouldn’t there be? This you can search via TX DMV.


49 posted on 05/02/2010 4:27:47 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: moehoward

Okay...what’s yer answer?....LOL


50 posted on 05/02/2010 4:44:15 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, rmine!)
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