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Walgreens shooter: 'One chance'(NE)
omaha.com ^ | 30 April, 2010 | Leia Mendoza

Posted on 05/04/2010 12:57:12 PM PDT by marktwain

Harry James McCullough took it personally. The former security guard was standing at a Walgreens checkout counter when he saw two masked men, one with a sawed-off shotgun, enter the store. Marquail Thomas, 18, pointed the shotgun at customers and yelled, “Nobody (expletive) move!''

“There's no doubt in my mind what they were going to do,” McCullough said Thursday. “There was no time to react. You only have one chance.”

McCullough pulled out a pistol and shot Thomas four times. Thomas collapsed outside the store and died later at a hospital.

McCullough chased down the second masked man, whom Omaha police have identified as Angelo Douglas, 17, and held him until officers arrived. Jauvier Perkins, 15, who police said was the getaway driver, was arrested Wednesday.

Prosecutors said all three are known gang members.

McCullough said he had no idea whom he was dealing with.

“I took it personal,” he said. “I was the only one in that situation that could have made it any better, so I took action.”

McCullough said he never expected something like this to happen at his neighborhood drugstore, which he visits at least once a month to pick up a prescription for migraine headaches.

(Excerpt) Read more at omaha.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: angelo; banglist; ccw; defense; jauvier; marquail; ne
Nebraska needs Constitutional carry.
1 posted on 05/04/2010 12:57:12 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Reporter to cop: Why did you shoot him 6 times?

Cop: I was out of bullets.


2 posted on 05/04/2010 1:00:21 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: marktwain

Marquail got his 5 minutes of fame.

good riddance to bad rubbish.


3 posted on 05/04/2010 1:00:34 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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To: marktwain

Gang members? And now this guy’s name is being publicized?


4 posted on 05/04/2010 1:01:53 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: marktwain

Well, thanks to some crackerjack reporting by a intellectually challenged reporter, the gang members of the victim and the perps now know who they need to track down and kill.

I’m sure the family of Harry James McCullough will be thrilled to know how easily it is to track their son down, especially with a press that is eager to single out a Hero for the gangs to kill.


5 posted on 05/04/2010 1:04:50 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Genoa

How else will the reporters get their next story? sarc/


6 posted on 05/04/2010 1:05:24 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: marktwain
Good defense job, but I would have fought tooth and nail to keep my name out of the papers after that. You never know if the little punks have punk friends.

Yeah he can defend himself, but not having your name out there is a defense all it's own. "Anonymous bystander" is how I'd like to be referred to in the de-brief.

7 posted on 05/04/2010 1:05:29 PM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: marktwain

“”””Kleine said a bullet from the pistol was found inside the barrel of the shotgun, indicating that Thomas was aiming his gun at McCullough.””””


wow!!!!

Mythbusters needs to do their thing to recreate it.


8 posted on 05/04/2010 1:06:01 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: marktwain
No gun charge in shooting
9 posted on 05/04/2010 1:07:27 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: marktwain
Funny thing was the perp’s gun wasn't loaded. Somebody actually wrote the local paper complaining the shooting was not justified because the shotgun wasn't loaded. Sorry, but he didn't tell anybody?
10 posted on 05/04/2010 1:08:20 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: Spok
*tearing up*
I just LOVE a happy ending!
11 posted on 05/04/2010 1:13:47 PM PDT by RW_Whacko
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To: marktwain

Several things are not in this article. His gun was confiscated by the police on the spot. He was unarmed with possible gang members who now know who he is and where he lives. Some gunowners held a collection and gave him enough to buy a new gun. When he tried to register it, he was refused (which means he cannot pick up the new gun). The reason given was he was ticketed for a misdemeanor (carrying concealed without a permit). Omaha has had handgun registration since the 1880’s, BTW. He is working little over minimum wage jobs and probably does not have another.

All the usual suspects (gun grabbing politicians, newspaper columnists, and idiots posting on local websites) are condemning him. They say; “If this happened, or that happened, or something else happened instead of what actually happened, it would have been far worse.” One idiot accused him of shooting an unarmed man (which nobody knew at the time) in the back (which the tapes show happened when he spun around after getting hit 3 times). Another idiot said that the perp did not have to be pointing the gun at him. He could have “curved” the bullet into the barrel!!!

The State Patrol has also said that he will never be allowed to have a concealed carry permit in the future because he has a misdemeanor ticket for carrying concealed without a permit. Keep all this in mind when someone says the Police are your friend. They are not.


12 posted on 05/04/2010 1:13:50 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
13 posted on 05/04/2010 1:19:58 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: jim_trent

“The State Patrol has also said that he will never be allowed to have a concealed carry permit in the future because he has a misdemeanor ticket for carrying concealed without a permit.”

Ya’ll ned a “Shall Issue” CC Law in Nebraska exempting Misdemeanors. That’ll put the gun grabbing Cops back on their leashes.


14 posted on 05/04/2010 1:24:09 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: marktwain

Condolences here-

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/omaha/obituary.aspx?n=marquail-tyrill-deshane-thomas&pid=142492121


15 posted on 05/04/2010 1:27:10 PM PDT by seton89 (Use Amendment X as your email signature)
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To: Joe Brower

BTTT!


16 posted on 05/04/2010 1:28:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: jim_trent; Deo volente
In the link from comment 9 it says that the prosecutor decided not to act on the carrying concealed ticket.

Are they still not allowing him to register his new weapon just because he was ticketed even though he apparently won't be prosecuted?

17 posted on 05/04/2010 1:32:22 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: jim_trent

An absolute “hh rule”:

Vigilantism rises because of the unwillingness or inability of law enforcement to do their jobs.....

hh


18 posted on 05/04/2010 1:36:04 PM PDT by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: seton89
Sorry, fresh out of condolences.

Marquail Tyrill Deshane Thomas

Poor kid didn't have a chance from the get-go. /semi-sarc

19 posted on 05/04/2010 2:10:32 PM PDT by Moltke (DOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the Big House - HOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the White House.)
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To: BnBlFlag
Even the “Shall Issue” law wouldn't save him in Florida. We have that but one of the reasons you can lose your license or be refused one is for being arrested on a gun-related charge. If a business has posted “No Guns” signs and you are arrested in there with a weapon you will be charged with armed trespassing and your license will be revoked and you will not be eligible for another one, ever. Even with the laws they still find all sorts of silly reasons to deny to issue a permit or license. For instance, if you were arrested in 1962 for a charge that carried a penalty on conviction of a year or more in jail then you cannot get a Florida license. Doesn't matter if you were convicted, or even went to court, the charge alone is considered sufficient grounds for denial.
20 posted on 05/04/2010 2:10:58 PM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: hoosier hick

This was not an act of vigilantism. That would occur if a group of armed men went to the house of gang members to seek retribution for a crime committed by members of the gang.
This was a fortuitous act of self defense, stopping a threatening murderer in progress of shooting innocent victims.
I trust he has been given a gun to protect his home and family from the vigilantism of gang members.


21 posted on 05/04/2010 2:20:11 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (He is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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To: marktwain
McCullough pulled out a pistol and shot Thomas four times.

That'll get the job done.

22 posted on 05/04/2010 2:22:43 PM PDT by packrat35 (Planned Parenthood - Keeping healthcare costs down, one fetus at a time)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Mythbusters needs to do their thing to recreate it.

While it would be a chance thing, it's not all that amazing. 12 gauge shotgun's bore is .730 inches in diameter, plenty of room for even .45 bullet, and chances are he was using something smaller.

23 posted on 05/04/2010 3:12:18 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: marktwain

Thank you, Harry James McCullough, Sir...


24 posted on 05/04/2010 3:31:08 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("Sometimes I have to break the law in order to meet my management objectives." - Bill Calkins, BLM)
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To: jim_trent

Sounds like he needs to move to Texas. We’d welcome him.


25 posted on 05/04/2010 4:22:23 PM PDT by zeugma (Waco taught me everything I needed to know about the character of the U.S. Government.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
It is very common for people in self defense situations to hit the gun or gun hand. with the large holes of a shotgun barrel I don't find so unbelievable that a bullet would lodge there if it went down the barrel.
26 posted on 05/04/2010 4:34:13 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: jim_trent

Do the police make the law?


27 posted on 05/04/2010 4:38:24 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: jim_trent
Police are your friend.

As a rule they are. However the police hierarchy is not.

28 posted on 05/04/2010 6:02:59 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has it limits.)
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To: Osage Orange

The refusal to give him a permit to own a new gun because of the ticket IS NOT a law. That is policy that was formulated by the Police Chief.

As far as the other examples given, I have not tracked them down, but they sound like policy rather than laws. Do you actually believe that there is any law requiring the State Patrol to NEVER give a concealed carry permit to someone who has a MISDEMEANOR ticket for carrying concealed without a permit?

If it is policy, it means the POLICE are the enemy, not the politicians.


29 posted on 05/04/2010 6:04:45 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: voteNRA

Yes. This is what makes it doubly screwed up.


30 posted on 05/04/2010 6:06:02 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: throwback

Those are the type of people that really make me wonder what goes through their mind. It’s the same mentality that thinks a shooting isn’t justified if the good guy doesn’t let the bad guy shoot first. It’s like some bizarro world of self defense.


31 posted on 05/04/2010 6:32:14 PM PDT by Dayman (My 1919a4 is named Charlotte. When I light her up she has the voice of an angel.)
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To: jim_trent
Keep all this in mind when someone says the Police are your friend. They are not.

The DMV with guns.

32 posted on 05/04/2010 6:38:55 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: seton89

Aw man...I’m so tempted to leave a comment.


33 posted on 05/04/2010 7:21:48 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Deo volente

From that article:

“The Nebraska Firearms Owners Association gave McCullough the $649 to buy the replacement. “

Good job, people.


34 posted on 05/04/2010 7:57:41 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Spok

Alternate answer: Because five wasn’t enough and seven was too many.


35 posted on 05/04/2010 8:20:20 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: jim_trent
That is really screwed up then.

I would say if being accused of unlawful carry was enough to deny someone a permit to purchase without being convicted, he should have standing to bring an interesting court challenge.

If someone is accused of a felony in Omaha do they loose their right to vote, or do they actually have to be convicted before that right is revoked?

36 posted on 05/04/2010 8:32:53 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Prosecutor Kleine said a bullet from the pistol was found inside the barrel of the shotgun, indicating that Thomas was aiming his gun at McCullough.

A whole new meaning to "one in the pipe"?

37 posted on 05/04/2010 9:12:56 PM PDT by TYVets (I want to see Congress required to get their healthcare in VA hospitals)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

That he put one down the barrel isn’t out of this world. In the early 90’s, I took a course from Jim Cirillo (and his partner, Al), the NYPD cops who had been in 17 shoot-outs with NYC’s gremlins in their career. He said that people often get a tunnel-vision fixation on the weapon - and that in shootouts, too often the person responding to the perps aims tightly in on the weapon, not the perp himself. That’s what sounds like happened here.

This can work against the good guy if the perp has the long gun mounted on their shoulder, for example. The good guy moves his “fixation” zone up and to his left (to the perp’s up and right” to put it on the gun - and some of their shots easily go high and wide.

Cirillo said that it takes either lots of training or “as in his case, lots of real-world practice” (he had* a outrageous sense of humor) to learn to aim for center of mass, no longer how much you want to fixate on the size of the hole in the end of the shotgun.

On that, Cirillo said “The hole on the end of a 12 gauge looks like you could walk right up the thing when it’s pointed into your face...”

* sadly, Jim was killed in an auto accident in 2007:

http://www.snubnose.info/wordpress/news/jim-cirillo-killed-in-car-wreck/

Eating a box lunch at the range with Jim and Al while they told us stories of Mayor John Lindsay (one of the most notorious of the RINO’s in the early 70’s in US politics), neighborhoods of NYC and the activities of the NYC Stake Out Squad was one of the high points of the class. He and Al had us all rolling on the ground, choking on our food half the time, nearly wetting ourselves the other half of the time.

If it hadn’t been that we were there for self-defense training, it was worth the price of the course for non-stop comedy.


38 posted on 05/04/2010 10:02:11 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: seton89

I doubt they’ll publish what I submitted to his Legacy.com page:

Romans I
18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.


39 posted on 05/05/2010 3:56:42 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Osage Orange
Do the police make the law?

Every day, whenever they feel like it. One of the best things about being a cop is to do whatever you want and not face the consequences that an ordinary citizen would over your actions.

40 posted on 05/05/2010 3:59:07 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: jim_trent
That makes more sense......

I am aware of city P.D.'s having "policy" that doesn't jive with city laws.

Thanks-

41 posted on 05/05/2010 6:03:28 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: from occupied ga
Actually they don't "make" law.

What you are saying isn't what I was referring to.

42 posted on 05/05/2010 6:04:38 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Joe Brower

Good for him.


43 posted on 05/05/2010 9:30:52 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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