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Ex-CIA lawyer: Gitmo IDs graver than Plame leak (Holder's People Aid Terrorists Out CIA Agents?)
Washington Times ^ | 5/6/2010 | Eli Lake and Bill Gertz

Posted on 05/06/2010 12:59:29 PM PDT by mojito

Covertly taken photos of CIA interrogators that were shown by defense attorneys to al Qaeda inmates at the Guantanamo Bay prison represent a more serious security breach than the 2003 outing of CIA officer Valerie Plame, the agency's former general counsel said Wednesday.

John Rizzo, who was the agency's top attorney until December, said in an interview that he initially requested the Justice Department and CIA investigation into the compromise of CIA interrogators' identities after photographs of the officers were found in the cell of one al Qaeda terrorist in Cuba.

"Well I think this is far more serious than Valerie Plame," Mr. Rizzo said after a breakfast speech. "That was clearly illegal, outing a covert officer. I am not downplaying that. But this is far more serious."

"This was not leaked to a columnist," he added. "These were pictures of undercover people who were involved in the interrogations program given for identification purposes to the 9/11 [terrorists]."

Mr. Rizzo's remarks are the first public comments by someone who was involved in the probe on the still-secret investigation.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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And what if those "defense attorneys" are the same people who Eric Holder hired to staff the Justice Department?

I'm just asking.

1 posted on 05/06/2010 12:59:30 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

Holder and Company= America haters.


2 posted on 05/06/2010 1:01:57 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: mojito
"Well I think this is far more serious than Valerie Plame," Mr. Rizzo said after a breakfast speech. "That was clearly illegal, outing a covert officer. I am not downplaying that. But this is far more serious."

Of course it is. These agents were ACTUAL covert field agents -- not a former agent who was never going to return to the field. But hey! Competence is not expected from liberals! So nothing will come from this.

3 posted on 05/06/2010 1:03:21 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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The agency’s “tiger team” of security specialists was dispatched as part of an ongoing investigation conducted jointly with the Justice Department into a program backed by the American Civil Liberties Union. The program, called the John Adams Project, has photographed covert CIA interrogators and shown the pictures to some of the five senior al Qaeda terrorists held there in an effort to identify them further.

Details of the review could not be learned. However, the CIA team came away from the review, conducted the week of March 14, “very concerned” that agency personnel have been put in danger by military rules allowing interaction between the five inmates and defense attorneys, according to an intelligence source close to the review.

Mr. Fitzgerald, who investigated the press disclosure of clandestine CIA officer Valerie Plame beginning in 2003, has been meeting with CIA officials for the past several weeks as part of the probe.

The prosecutor was called into the case after agency officials voiced worries that Justice Department investigators did not share their level of concern over the danger that al Qaeda terrorists at Guantanamo, including Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, could secretly send information on the identities of CIA officers to al Qaeda terrorists outside the prison through the attorneys.

A senior Justice Department National Security Division official, Donald Vieira, recused himself from the probe earlier this month as a result of the interagency dispute. Mr. Vieira was a Democratic counsel on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, before taking a post at the Justice Department.

http://forums.floridasportsman.com/forum/politics/aclu-backed-plan-gitmo-lawyers-out-cia-agents-costing-one-agent-his-life-thanks-seek-0


4 posted on 05/06/2010 1:04:36 PM PDT by kcvl
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“U.S. officials close to the CIA-Justice probe said photographs of the CIA officers were found last year in the cell of Mustafa Ahmed al-Hawsawi, an alleged financier of the Sept. 11 plot. Officials said the photographs appeared to have been taken by private investigators for the John Adams Project, which is jointly backed by the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.”

[....]

“Mr. Rizzo said the photos “were pictures of agency people, some of which were captured paparazzi-style, clearly taken in a kind of surveillance mode.”

5 posted on 05/06/2010 1:04:59 PM PDT by mojito
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CIA agents’ identities exposed to terrorists by Gitmo lawyers and the ACLU

August 21, 2009

Detainees Shown CIA Officers’ Photos
Justice Dept. Looking Into Whether Attorneys Broke Law at Guantanamo

The Justice Department recently questioned military defense attorneys at Guantanamo Bay about whether photographs of CIA personnel, including covert officers, were unlawfully provided to detainees charged with organizing the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, according to sources familiar with the investigation.

Investigators are looking into allegations that laws protecting classified information were breached when three lawyers showed their clients the photographs, the sources said. The lawyers were apparently attempting to identify CIA officers and contractors involved in the agency’s interrogation of al-Qaeda suspects in facilities outside the United States, where the agency employed harsh techniques.

If detainees at the U.S. military prison in Cuba are tried, either in federal court or by a military commission, defense lawyers are expected to attempt to call CIA personnel to testify.

The photos were taken by researchers hired by the John Adams Project, a joint effort of the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, to support military counsel at Guantanamo Bay, according to the sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the inquiry. It was unclear whether the Justice Department is also examining those organizations.

Both groups have long said that they will zealously investigate the CIA’s interrogation program at “black sites” worldwide as part of the defense of their clients. But government investigators are now looking into whether the defense team went too far by allegedly showing the detainees the photos of CIA officers, in some cases surreptitiously taken outside their homes.

http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2009/08/21/cia-agents-identities-exposed-to-terrorists-by-gitmo-lawyers-and-the-aclu/


6 posted on 05/06/2010 1:06:06 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: mojito

ACLU Spying On CIA Agents In US, Outing Them To Jihadists (ACLU Claims It Is Patriotic Act!)

Michelle Malkin ^ | Michelle Malkin

Posted on Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:26:12 AM by MindBender26

Last week, The Washington Post reported on a new Justice Department inquiry into photographs of undercover CIA officials and other intelligence personnel taken by ACLU-sponsored researchers assisting the defense team of Guantanamo Bay detainees. According to the report, the pictures of covert American CIA officers — “in some cases surreptitiously taken outside their homes” — were shown to jihadi suspects tied to the 9/11 attacks in order to identify the interrogators.

The ACLU undertook the so-called “John Adams Project” with the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers — last seen crusading for convicted jihadi assistant Lynne Stewart. She’s the far-left lawyer who helped sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, convicted 1993 World Trade Center bombing and N.Y. landmark bombing plot mastermind, smuggle coded messages of Islamic violence to outside followers in violation of an explicit pledge to abide by her client’s court-ordered isolation.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2325637/posts


7 posted on 05/06/2010 1:07:14 PM PDT by kcvl
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>John Adams Project, which is jointly backed by the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.

Did these guys know that Adams authored the Alien and Sedition Act?

Seems to me this is prime for investigation.

Handing over the pictures, perhaps names of CIA officers to jihadis seems a little beyond the pale, even for these types of lawyers, but apparently not.

I bet the jihadis couldn’t believe it.


8 posted on 05/06/2010 1:08:13 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes!Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: Tallguy

Right. Plame was a former. Plame was a desk jockey. Plame was important only in her own mind.

The Plame Episode was a non-started and a gust of hot air. This however put American lives at risk. The defense attorneys should be prosecuted and spend 10-20 behind bars plus lose their law license.


9 posted on 05/06/2010 1:09:08 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: mojito

>John Adams Project, which is jointly backed by the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.

Did these guys know that Adams authored the Alien and Sedition Act?

Seems to me this is prime for investigation.

Handing over the pictures, perhaps names of CIA officers to jihadis seems a little beyond the pale, even for these types of lawyers, but apparently not.

I bet the jihadis couldn’t believe it.


10 posted on 05/06/2010 1:09:23 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes!Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: K-oneTexas
The defense attorneys should be prosecuted and spend 10-20 behind bars plus lose their law license.

Except that I keep reading that a lot of these Gitmo defense firms have ties to the current AG, Eric Holder. So you know nothing is going to happen until the House of Representatives changes hands.

11 posted on 05/06/2010 1:10:56 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: mojito

Anyone could have told you this. And no, Plamegate was NOT about national security. It was about the shadow government trying to take down the Bush administration from within.

Partisan hacks who sought to thwart the administration.

The missile secrets Hillary disclosed this week would’ve been treason in another era.


12 posted on 05/06/2010 1:14:28 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
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To: mojito

never going to see it in my local paper bookmark.


13 posted on 05/06/2010 1:17:20 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: mojito; nuconvert; neverdem; SandRat; Liz; sickoflibs
John Rizzo, who was the agency's top attorney until December, said in an interview that he initially requested the Justice Department and CIA investigation into the compromise of CIA interrogators' identities after photographs of the officers were found in the cell of one al Qaeda terrorist in Cuba.

Is this odd or what?

14 posted on 05/06/2010 1:18:18 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Draw Mohammad Day" - - May 20, 2010 - Draw for freedom - draw for your children's freedom.)
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To: mojito
"Well I think this is far more serious than Valerie Plame," Mr. Rizzo said after a breakfast speech. "That was clearly illegal, outing a covert officer. I am not downplaying that. But this is far more serious."

If Plame was a covert officer, and revealing her potential role in the decision to send her lying husband Joe on his factfinding mission to Niger was "clearly illegal", then please tell me, Mr. Rizzo, why Richard Armitage was never prosecuted for that crime?

15 posted on 05/06/2010 1:20:06 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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“And what if those “defense attorneys” are the same people who Eric Holder hired to staff the Justice Department?”

BINGO! Right on the button mojito; and how many of those same lawyers were assisting Nazi Peloski and her pogrom against the CIA??

This is a classic “can of worms”...only we have a can full of big stinking maggots...

I owe you a cigar mojito...


16 posted on 05/06/2010 1:22:29 PM PDT by Bean Counter (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office -- Aesop)
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...government investigators are now looking into whether the defense team went too far by allegedly showing the detainees the photos of CIA officers, in some cases surreptitiously taken outside their homes.

Are you saying our men could have their families threatened too? Or that they would be easier to kill in an unprotected area?

17 posted on 05/06/2010 1:28:36 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Draw Mohammad Day" - - May 20, 2010 - Draw for freedom - draw for your children's freedom.)
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To: mojito
Excuse me. A query, if I might. The Gitmo prisoners GET CELL PHONES??????

WTF!!!!

18 posted on 05/06/2010 1:31:30 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: swarthyguy

I suspect that naming this effort the “John Adams Project” is a historical reference to when our future president defended a squad of Redcoats accused of murder at the Boston Massacre.

This gives you an idea as to how twisted these ACLU types are.


19 posted on 05/06/2010 1:32:29 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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I would say that it sounds like the “John Adams Project” was actually an al-Qada operation designed to compromise the identities of CIA agents, and that those attorneys who aided in this operation are traitors and should be treated as such.
20 posted on 05/06/2010 1:48:53 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito
...those attorneys who aided in this operation are traitors and should be treated as such.

You're right on this mojito.

21 posted on 05/06/2010 1:54:28 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Draw Mohammad Day" - - May 20, 2010 - Draw for freedom - draw for your children's freedom.)
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To: mojito

The Gitmo IDs are TREASON!


22 posted on 05/06/2010 2:12:02 PM PDT by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will continue to have more relevant quality executive experience than B. Obama.)
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ACLU - John Adams Project

Lawyers

Joshua L. Dratel
Thomas Anthony Durkin
Nina Ginsberg
Nancy Hollander
Amanda Lee
Denise LeBoeuf
Edward B. MacMahon, Jr.
Scott McKay
David Nevin
Jeff Robinson
Gary D. Sowards

STATEMENTS of support -

Anthony D. Romero
Jimmy Carter
Norman Reimer
Janet Reno
Retired Rear Admiral John D. Hutson
Patricia Perry
Lt. Colonel Stuart Couch
William Webster
Robin S. Theurkauf
September 11th Advocates
September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows
Samuel Walker

The American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers of the United States established the John Adams Project to “support military counsel at Guantanamo Bay.”

In August 2009 claims were made that three military lawyers associated with the project had shown pictures of Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officers to their clients, Guantanamo captives. The captives were among the “high value detainee” program who had spent years in secret CIA interrogation centers.

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Bill O’Reilly

I am so enraged by the John Adams Project, a group of subversive Americans affiliated with the ACLU who are sneaking around taking pictures of CIA agents who may have interrogated captured al-Qaeda guys in the wake of the 9/11 attack. This insidious outfit believes the CIA tortured casually and the USA is a “human rights violator.”

After taking the surreptitious photos, the Adams Project then passes them on to lawyers representing incarcerated terrorists, hoping that an accused man will, in turn, accuse a CIA agent of torturing him. This nasty business is now being investigated by the Justice Department, but the Obama administration has kept very quiet about it and, strangely, so has the media.

By exposing CIA agents to accused terrorists and their lawyers, the John Adams Project is obviously putting lives in jeopardy. This is a thousand times worse than the Plame affair, which saw top Dick Cheney aide Scooter Libby convicted of a felony while the press largely celebrated.

But where is the coverage of the Adams story? Where is President Obama on the issue? Why are these people being allowed to terrorize the Central Intelligence Agency?

Relevant questions. We await the answers.

http://www.billoreilly.com/newslettercolumn?pid=27182

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The probe was triggered by the discovery last year of about 20 color photographs of CIA officials in the cell of Mustafa Ahmed al-Hawsawi, an alleged financier of the 9/11 attacks, say three current and former government officials who asked not to be identified talking about an ongoing case.

The photos included “paparazzi style” snapshots of covert CIA officers on the street and in other public places, says one former official, an indication that private investigators had taken them on the sly to identify agency interrogators. When told of the discovery, CIA officials immediately grew alarmed that the photos had been shared among the 9/11 defendants, including alleged mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. (The judge in charge of the military-commission case at the time had ruled that because some defendants, including Mohammed, were representing themselves, they could meet privately with their alleged co-conspirators and share material relevant to their defense.) The photos in al-Hawsawi’s cell were not captioned with the agents’ identities. But “there was real concern” that the pictures could be used to identify covert officers, resulting in agents becoming the targets of Qaeda revenge plots, says the former official.

******

Lawyer from John Adams Project vs. “Factor” Producer (YouTube)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN41meN-KU8


23 posted on 05/06/2010 2:15:26 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
We all know that no American lawyer would ever aid a known terrorist.
24 posted on 05/06/2010 2:24:08 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Tallguy

Thanks, I had forgotten about that.

Aiding and abetting, treason....

Don’t think the lawyer client privilege covers this type of chicanery.


25 posted on 05/07/2010 11:34:52 AM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes!Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: kcvl

* Josh Dratel : David Hick’s lawyer; also the lawyer for AHMED OMAR ABUL ALI


26 posted on 05/11/2010 11:43:27 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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