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Arizona to eliminate speed cameras on highway (instituted by past governor Janet Napolitano)
AP ^ | May 6, 2010 | PAUL DAVENPORT

Posted on 05/07/2010 7:50:44 AM PDT by opentalk

PHOENIX – Arizona is ending a groundbreaking and contentious program that put speed cameras along Phoenix-area freeways and in vans deployed across the state.

Opponents have argued the cameras open the door for wider "Big Brother" surveillance and are more about making money than safety. The program has been the target of an initiative measure proposed for the November ballot.

Even Gov. Jan Brewer has said she doesn't like the cameras, and her intention to end the program was first disclosed in her January budget proposal. That was followed by a non-renewal letter sent by the Arizona Department of Public Safety this week to the private company that runs the program.

The camera program was instituted by Brewer's predecessor, Janet Napolitano, now the Homeland Security secretary. Cameras were introduced in September 2008 and were added until all 76 were up and running by January 2009.

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TOPICS: Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: az; bigbrother; cameras; donutwatch; louisiana; napolitanofailure; redflex

1 posted on 05/07/2010 7:50:44 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

The people were going to vote them out anyway in November.


2 posted on 05/07/2010 7:51:28 AM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: opentalk

Helps the illegals exit the state faster.


3 posted on 05/07/2010 7:53:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Another strike against the Nanny State.


4 posted on 05/07/2010 7:53:25 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: opentalk

I hate those cameras. The one time I was flashed and ticketed, other cars were traveling at the same speed as me. No “live” cop would have pulled me over. The speed limit had changed on the stretch of highway I was on, I must have looked the other way and didn’t see the 55 mph sign, and flash! I hate those cameras. I’ll even volunteer to help pull them down.


5 posted on 05/07/2010 7:53:37 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (God to Obama: Don't think I'm not keepin' track. Brother.)
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To: opentalk; Bokababe; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; genetic homophobe; ..

Isn’t this the police/Nazi state? Removing cameras?

Ironically Maryland welcomes illegals, yet photos us driving to send us fines $$$$$.


6 posted on 05/07/2010 7:54:32 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: opentalk

The cameras were put there for only one purpose — wealth transfer from the productive to the non productive.


7 posted on 05/07/2010 7:54:33 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: opentalk
Hope they sink all traffic electronic surveillance, including red light cameras. No more speed traps of any kind. It is time to take back the right against this type of crap. Put cops back on the highways.
8 posted on 05/07/2010 7:56:39 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: libh8er
The mobile and fixed cameras snap the photos of speeders going 11 mph or over the speed limit, and violators get tickets in the mail.

It was operated by a company out of Australia ,Redflex, The company would keep part of the traffic fines.

9 posted on 05/07/2010 7:57:00 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: sickoflibs
reminds me of those lil 'radar boxes' that they put up around holidaze and construction...

recall one that was completely wiped out, four tire skid marks to it...i guess somebody panicked and caused a chain reaction...

powerful lil boxes they are...

10 posted on 05/07/2010 7:58:38 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: opentalk

She sure was creative in finding ways to drain AZ residents of their cash!


11 posted on 05/07/2010 7:58:49 AM PDT by albie
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To: opentalk

They should only use the cameras to watch the illegals go south or west.

heh


12 posted on 05/07/2010 8:00:25 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: sickoflibs

Arizona lost millions on this Napolitano scam.


13 posted on 05/07/2010 8:00:28 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: opentalk

I thought these were thrown out, as an ‘invasion of privacy’ issue.

Seems there was a guy with his ‘girlfriend’ in the front seat. He was speeding, got his picture taken with the time, date and a picture of him, his car, his license plate, and his girlfriend sitting in the front seat of the car. Proof positive that he was driving the car, it was his car, and the speed limit, his rate of speed, the time, date and location were all printed on the photo.

Problem was that he had told his wife he was out of town, on business and alone at the time. The wife used the picture in the Divorce, and he sued the state for invading his privacy.


14 posted on 05/07/2010 8:01:49 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: opentalk

I thought these cameras were losing so many cases that they would be eliminated anyway. (Can’t confront/cross-examine your accuser in court when it’s a camera...)


15 posted on 05/07/2010 8:03:44 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: libh8er

The camera were really about closing a budget gap, Neapolitano said as much when she had them set up. They new that raising taxes was unpopular, and far be it from them to cut one nanocent worth of spending.


16 posted on 05/07/2010 8:04:44 AM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

12,000,000 loss.


17 posted on 05/07/2010 8:05:09 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: albie
she should of used her priorities on the border

The creepy thing about the story is a foreign company monitoring speeders and then take part of the fine money when you are caught. The more cameras the more money they make.

18 posted on 05/07/2010 8:06:21 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: TChris

There’s no way the state has to guarantee you received your ticket in the mail unless you are personally served. You can imagine how often that happens. After 180 days from the flash date, the ticket is void anyway. What a ridiculous scam. Also, we’ve seen drivers obviously intoxicated but driving slower than the speed limit who weren’t flashed at all.


19 posted on 05/07/2010 8:07:31 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (God to Obama: Don't think I'm not keepin' track. Brother.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
LOL, we went to Sedona, AZ for an Army UAV course in 2007. My whole flight crew rented cars from Sierra Vista, AZ and we all got MULTIPLE tickets from those damn lights on the 101?

The form looked official, but after contacting a JAG friend at Ft. Huachuca, he said, "Ignore them, statute of limitations is 120 days....just don't answer your door to a process server".

20 posted on 05/07/2010 8:08:05 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists".)
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To: opentalk
Good, now get these Orwellian scameras the hell out of LOUISIANA as well.

Criminal LOUISIANA politicians and lobbyists threw their support to Redflex in exchange for cash and other kickbacks generated by the damn scameras that target citizens in the greater New Orleans area.

It's nothing but damn FRAUD and EXTORTION perpetuated on the citizenry by a tyrannical bunch of scumbag criminal lowlifes.

http://www.wdsu.com/news/23151677/detail.html

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2010/04/jefferson_parish_renews_stop_l.html

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/30/3097.asp

21 posted on 05/07/2010 8:14:48 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
And yet I suspect the real reason for the termination of this program is that the contractor in charge of running the operation has decided it wasn't a very good business model.

There was a story a while back about a city in the southwestern U.S. that eliminated its red-light camera program -- because there were so many illegal aliens driving unregistered cars with fake license plates that they couldn't raise the revenue they expected.

22 posted on 05/07/2010 8:15:05 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: opentalk

Here, in Yakima, WA, the city council just voted down the installation of red light cameras. Good for them.


23 posted on 05/07/2010 8:20:32 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: eclecticEel
The camera were really about closing a budget gap

'Closing a budget gap' is libspeak for coming up with new ways to extort money from the people, because you have already transferred more wealth to the non productive members of society from the productive than you had.

24 posted on 05/07/2010 8:25:07 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: opentalk
“To Protect and Serve” has become “To Collect and Serve” with the service being to the tax man...
25 posted on 05/07/2010 8:25:23 AM PDT by ejonesie22 ( Tagline being renovated under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act...)
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To: Alberta's Child

Probably a combination of both.


26 posted on 05/07/2010 8:26:59 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: DCBryan1

Mr. JAG is correct. You must be served, or it is null & void.


27 posted on 05/07/2010 8:28:33 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: opentalk

...AZ just keeps getting better and better!


28 posted on 05/07/2010 8:33:07 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Ironically, in the UK where they have the same type of cameras it is not uncommon for the people to take a tire full of gasoline put it on the camera, and light it afire.

This just goes to show you that even in Brittan, which has been disarmed and ‘pussified’ has more balls than we Americans!


29 posted on 05/07/2010 8:35:41 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: opentalk

>The company would keep part of the traffic fines.

Sounds like a conflict of interest to me; if they made ‘mistaken’ equipment then they get more money.


30 posted on 05/07/2010 8:42:36 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: opentalk

Arizona is proof that if you elect good people things can get better.


31 posted on 05/07/2010 9:00:00 AM PDT by MrShoop
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To: opentalk

Just so you’re aware, they kept 60% of the fine. I think my uncle was working with these when he told me that.

Anyways, I am happy to see these gone!


32 posted on 05/07/2010 9:06:57 AM PDT by SnowSoul
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To: MrShoop
Arizona is proof that if you elect good people things can get better.

So is New Jersey.

33 posted on 05/07/2010 9:07:31 AM PDT by BoringGuy
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To: MrShoop

And Washington state is proof that if you let liberals vote you get morons for your government...lol


34 posted on 05/07/2010 9:11:33 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: opentalk

God Bless the people of Arizona and Gov. Brewer! First, a rock solid stand against illegal immigration, now a stand against these foolish traffic cameras and more invasion of our freedoms.

Rick Perry of TX, are you paying attention?


35 posted on 07/12/2010 12:26:48 PM PDT by izzatzo
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