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Robots position giant box over oil-spewing well
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/7/10 | Harry R. Weber - ap

Posted on 05/07/2010 1:46:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

ON THE GULF OF MEXICO – Underwater robots positioned a giant 100-ton concrete-and-steel box over a blown-out well at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico on Friday as workers prepared to drop the device to the seafloor in a first-of-its-kind attempt to stop oil gushing into the sea.

A spokesman for oil giant BP PLC, which is in charge of the cleanup, said the box was suspended about 200 feet above the main leak Friday and was being moved into position, though it could be Saturday before that happens.

Several undersea cameras attached to the robots were making sure it was properly aligned before it plunged all the way to the bottom.

"We are essentially taking a four-story building and lowering it 5,000 feet and setting it on the head of a pin," Bill Salvin, the BP spokesman, told The Associated Press.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gulfofmexico; oilspewing; robot; robots; well
Where's SuperMan when ya need him?
1 posted on 05/07/2010 1:46:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Crewmen aboard the motor vessel Joe Griffin look on as the mobile offshore drilling unit Q4000 lowers a pollution containment chamber into the Gulf of Mexico over the site of the BP Deepwater Horizon oil spill May 6, 2010. The chamber is designed to cap the oil discharge that was a result of the Deepwater Horizon rig fire and collapse. Picture taken May 6, 2010. REUTERS/U.S. Coast Guard/Petty Officer 3rd Class Patrick Kelley/Handout (UNITED STATES - Tags: ENVIRONMENT BUSINESS DISASTER ENERGY)


2 posted on 05/07/2010 1:47:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: NormsRevenge

3 posted on 05/07/2010 1:50:49 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The frog who rides on a scorpion should not be surprised when he last hears "it is my nature.")
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To: NormsRevenge

That’s quite a contraption. I hope it works.


4 posted on 05/07/2010 1:51:12 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: NormsRevenge

Well im taking a nap in a few minutes


5 posted on 05/07/2010 1:51:54 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: NormsRevenge

To listen to the LSM, you would think he was in the WH.


6 posted on 05/07/2010 1:52:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: NormsRevenge
He Did Not Have The Proper Papers

http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2010/3/25/89%20Under%20arrest%20for%20making%20Superman%20Returns.jpg

7 posted on 05/07/2010 1:55:08 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: NormsRevenge

My understanding is that if that big metal box scrapes the metal equipement on the ocean floor and emits a spark — KA-BOOOOOOM!!!!


8 posted on 05/07/2010 1:55:33 PM PDT by avacado
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To: NormsRevenge

Strange pic - it certainly doesn't LOOK like a "giant 100-ton concrete-and-steel box " - it looks like a couple of plastic phone booths.

Must be farther away than it looks.

9 posted on 05/07/2010 1:55:41 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Not to Monday Morning quarterback but the oil industry should have had one of these babies sitting on the dock just in case. It looks like cheap insurance. You have at least 10 big major oil companies who could have chipped in and paid the storage costs.


10 posted on 05/07/2010 1:56:51 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain/Graham = La Raza's Senators & Estefan-Rubio)
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To: NormsRevenge

What is this, plan V?


11 posted on 05/07/2010 1:57:20 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
He Did Not Have The Proper Papers



Darn It!

12 posted on 05/07/2010 1:57:45 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I would love to be on one of those crews.


13 posted on 05/07/2010 1:58:24 PM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: NormsRevenge

BP spokesman Bill Salvin told AP: “We are essentially taking a 4-story building, lowering it 5,000 feet and setting it on the head of a pin”..........in pitch black darkness.


15 posted on 05/07/2010 2:01:20 PM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: NormsRevenge

Get’r Done!


16 posted on 05/07/2010 2:03:04 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: NormsRevenge
I would pay full retail for a DVD documentary on this whole disaster, and how they are trying to repair it.

But I want lots of underwater footage from the ROV’s.

17 posted on 05/07/2010 2:04:03 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: NormsRevenge

Supposedly it’s been done before but not at 5,000 ft. depth.


18 posted on 05/07/2010 2:05:25 PM PDT by Carley (WE CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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To: Izzy Dunne

19 posted on 05/07/2010 2:08:30 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( - Free Men will always be armed with the Truth. -)
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To: NormsRevenge

Latest news from deepwaterhorizonresponse.com:

Total Vessels (including tugs and skimmers): 256
Boom deployed: 788,085 feet
Boom available: 1,287,764 feet
Oil and Water Mix - Recovered: Approximately 1.89 million gallons
Dispersant Used : 267,195 gallons
Dispersant available: 317,591 gallons
Remotely Operated Vehicles (ROV): 4
Overall Personnel Responding: 8,497


20 posted on 05/07/2010 2:10:02 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: NormsRevenge; Tijeras_Slim
speaking of robots

Guy goes into a bar, there's a robot bartender.

The robot says, "What will you have?" The guy says, "Martini." The robot brings back the best martini ever and says to the man, "What's your IQ?" The guy says, "168". The robot then proceeds to talk about physics, space exploration and medical technology.

The guy leaves, but he is curious, so he goes back into the bar. The robot bartender says," What will you have?" The guy says, "Martini". Again, the robot makes a great martini, gives it to the man and says, "What's your IQ?" The guy says, "100." The robot then starts to talk about NASCAR, Budweiser and John Deere tractors.

The guy leaves, but finds it very interesting, so he thinks he will try it one more time. He goes back into the bar. The robot says, "What will you have?" The guy says, "Martini", and the robot brings him another great martini. The robot then says, "What's your IQ?" The guy says, "Uh, about 50." The robot leans in real close and says, "So, you people still happy you voted for Obama?"

21 posted on 05/07/2010 2:11:17 PM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal texted me at 0330 on 2/3/10: AMERICA!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Dear God, let it work......


22 posted on 05/07/2010 2:16:40 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Thank you Optimus Prime!


23 posted on 05/07/2010 2:21:43 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Frantzie

Not to Monday Morning quarterback but the oil industry should have had one of these babies sitting on the dock just in case. It looks like cheap insurance. You have at least 10 big major oil companies who could have chipped in and paid the storage costs.

not sure if one size would fit all, but I agree, so it might costa a bit but i the long run, what’s a little insurance, right?

Some mechanism should be in place ready for most situations short of massive failures.. I don’t recall if this is a custom rush job but suspect it was.. the idea may have been around, they just didn’t have opportunity yet to build this big before..

pretty nifty idea. if it works. ;-)


24 posted on 05/07/2010 2:34:44 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: avacado

My understanding is that if that big metal box scrapes the metal equipement on the ocean floor and emits a spark — KA-BOOOOOOM!!!!

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It seems there would be insufficient oxygen available for underwater combustion. Please elaborate.


25 posted on 05/07/2010 2:42:35 PM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: NormsRevenge

26 posted on 05/07/2010 2:43:14 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: avacado
"My understanding is that if that big metal box scrapes the metal equipement on the ocean floor and emits a spark — KA-BOOOOOOM!!!!"

Sorry, fires don't burn well underwater. No oxygen. So no "KA-BOOM".

27 posted on 05/07/2010 2:46:37 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: loungitude

Mea culpa. The concern was when moving that metal beast off the boat a spark could cause the rising gas and oil mixture in the water to go off on the surface.


28 posted on 05/07/2010 2:53:16 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Wonder Warthog

See post #28. (I wish I had a delete button)


29 posted on 05/07/2010 2:53:55 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Bigun

This could end up being the biggest ‘Hey ya’ll, watch this!’ moment in the history of the planet.


30 posted on 05/07/2010 2:55:34 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: avacado

Now that makes sense. Let’s hope these guys have a plan!


31 posted on 05/07/2010 2:57:46 PM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: NormsRevenge

At one point I read that there is 1000 cf of natural gas vented with each barrel of oil from this leak. The expansion of this gas causes so much cooling that the design has to have a double jacket pipe with oil in the inner pipe and the gas/water/alcohol antifreeze comes up in the outer jacket.

1000cf of gas per barrel seems like a huge number but if what I heard is true then the alcohol is probably a pollution source too.


32 posted on 05/07/2010 3:03:43 PM PDT by UnChained ( I am sending you out as sheep among wolves; so be as cunning as serpents and as innocent as doves)
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To: Bender2



33 posted on 05/07/2010 3:18:21 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: avacado
"The concern was when moving that metal beast off the boat a spark could cause the rising gas and oil mixture in the water to go off on the surface."

THAT is a quite reasonable concern, given that the work crews in the area are using respirators and breathing equipment due to fumes in the area. I suspect there are explosimeters (portable instruments that determine if an explosive air/fuel mix is present) in use everywhere and great pains taken to avoid sparks.

But as I understand the latest news, that stage is past, and the "beast" is already in the water and being brought into position for the "big drop" over the wellhead.

34 posted on 05/07/2010 3:28:36 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Tex-Con-Man
I would pay full retail for a DVD documentary on this whole disaster, and how they are trying to repair it.

If there ever is such a thing, it will be about how Obama single-handedly saved New Orleans from the evil BP and be titled "Day One."

35 posted on 05/07/2010 3:33:42 PM PDT by twhitak
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To: NormsRevenge

This is engineered specifically to contain the situation. This is only one team working the problem and it looks like they are writing the book on how to respond to a mess like this. It will be interesting to see what the other teams are coming up with as this is only a temporary solution.


36 posted on 05/07/2010 3:43:15 PM PDT by Shanty Shaker
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To: NormsRevenge

Thanks for the post. This is going into running account on this engineering feat by BP in http://www.theusmat.com/


37 posted on 05/07/2010 4:25:35 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Corps vs Corpse? Why naturally, Obama was talking about the White House Press Corpse.!)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is kind of on the subject: This is an idea for catching the oil that escapes and heads to the shores and beaches, just a thought:

Why can't we get thousands and thousands of bales of hay...from all over the country, tie them together somehow...and place them along the seashores where the oil might come in? The hay would absorb the oil as the water washed ashore, just like it does when you spread it on a garage floor to sop up oil. The oil would not get on the sand and beaches and the hay is not dangerous to animals and is eco-friendly in itself. Then as the bales start to disintegrate, they could be scooped up along with the oil they absorbed and taken to a place nearby and burned. They could even dig pits in the sand, burn the hay, and it would be gone. Nothing to bury that might hold the oil and could cause problems later. No chemicals. And the fires might cause some smoke...but that would not last long, either. Seems to me easier and less costly than the booms.

An added benefit: The hay could be purchased from farmers, helping them with their economy,in these times of economic problems for them.

I sent this suggestion to my Congressman, Eric Cantor, although not his area, this is a problem affecting all the country. And, I called the BP Gulf spill hot line and talked to a person who thought it was a great idea. Let's see if anything happens with this suggestion. Sometimes old fashioned remedies could/would be the best.

38 posted on 05/07/2010 4:56:24 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: NormsRevenge

That’s some serious rigging. I’d love to see it happen.


39 posted on 05/07/2010 4:59:44 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

Box to contain oil leak touches down on Gulf floor
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100507/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill


40 posted on 05/07/2010 5:01:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: UnChained
When oil is brought to surface conditions it is usual for some natural gas to come out of solution. The gas/oil ratio (GOR) is the ratio of the volume of gas that comes out of solution, to the volume of oil at standard conditions.

A point to check is whether the volume of oil is measured before or after the gas comes out of solution, since the oil volume will shrink when the gas comes out.

In fact gas dissolution and oil volume shrinkage will happen at many stages during the path of the hydrocarbon stream from reservoir through the wellbore and processing plant to export. For light oils and rich gas condensates the ultimate GOR of export streams is strongly influenced by the efficiency with which the processing plant strips liquids from the gas phase. Reported GORs may be calculated from export volumes which may not be at standard conditions.

The GOR is usually measured in cubic feet of gas per barrel of oil or condensate.

If the GOR is greater than 10,000 cf/bbl, then the field is usually described as a gas well. If less than 10,000, then the field is generally described as an oil well.

I sure hope the folks who are designing this containment/recovery effort are taking this into account and realize that they are going to have to handle, in some fashion, all the gas that comes out of solution as the fluid they are trapping 5000 feet down works it's way to the surface.

41 posted on 05/07/2010 5:37:45 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Bigun
BP has been stand up throughout.BHO and his minions are salivating over the crisis and doing nothing since day one.
42 posted on 05/07/2010 6:57:18 PM PDT by shanover (These are the times that try men's souls....tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered-T. Paine)
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To: Bigun

well said !


43 posted on 05/07/2010 7:35:02 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Angels and Ministers of Grace, Defend Us ....)
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To: Bigun; UnChained
I sure hope the folks who are designing this containment/recovery effort are taking this into account and realize that they are going to have to handle, in some fashion, all the gas that comes out of solution as the fluid they are trapping 5000 feet down works it's way to the surface.

So, this means there might be an even bigger explosion?

44 posted on 05/07/2010 7:42:30 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Carley
Supposedly it’s been done before but not at 5,000 ft. depth.

That's my understanding too. This approach has been done successfully, but never at anything approaching this sort of depth. If they pull this off the guys that did it really deserve some kudos. Enough with the blame-laying. Now it's time to get serious about fixing it.

45 posted on 05/07/2010 7:46:59 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: thecodont
So, this means there might be an even bigger explosion?

I pray not!

Surely the folks designing this have good handle on what will be required.

46 posted on 05/07/2010 7:57:58 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Ramius

With this administration it’s much more important to show their Chicago style thuggery than to cooperate in the solution. It’s always about blaming blaming blaming.

How pathetic, but so typical of O and his cabal.


47 posted on 05/08/2010 3:26:55 AM PDT by Carley (WE CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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