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Killers Without Conscience - 2010
2010 | Ward Dorrity

Posted on 05/07/2010 2:13:19 PM PDT by Noumenon

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To: Conservative4Life

I’m working on a book-length version of this. There is so much that I left out in order to keep it brief. For example, Antonio Gramsci has an entire chapter in the re-work, and I don’t even mention him here.


151 posted on 07/22/2010 4:01:56 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon

OUTSTANDING!


152 posted on 07/24/2010 6:30:43 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Noumenon

Impressive. Don’t give up, get it published.


153 posted on 07/24/2010 6:51:36 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (A loud band of PaulBots, Isolationists, Protectionists, 911Inside Jobnuts, 3rdParty Loud Irrelevants)
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To: Noumenon

Excellent. Nice, nice work.


154 posted on 07/26/2010 10:25:47 AM PDT by riri
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To: TigersEye
I'll stand behind you on those words. An exceptional essay in both principle and execution.

You and Noumenon will not be standing alone...

the infowarrior

155 posted on 07/26/2010 1:28:45 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: infowarrior

Those of us who have sacrificed our anonymity to post our POV on the internet are but a small fraction of the patriots in this country. I think we are far from alone.


156 posted on 07/26/2010 1:44:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Noumenon

bump for later read


157 posted on 09/10/2010 1:38:57 PM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: Noumenon
"Are we All Nazis?" A chilling but enlightening book - the "Nazi" personality is/has always been, in EVERY society. All it takes for them to rise up is the rule of law to be set aside...as the laws on sexual molestation has been in the case of the TSA.

as one reviewer of the book states: "Hans Askenasy reveals the extraordinary conditions under which any of us could become an inhuman murderer. Or so it seems. But the conditions are ordinary, not extraordinary, and the inhuman behavior is all-too-human."

The chill of watching those TSA people molest people because they "have the power!" is a very frightening glimpse of how easily people in ANY society would turn on their fellow citizens if given the chance to do so with impunity.

158 posted on 11/19/2010 5:53:19 PM PST by maine-iac7
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Bump


159 posted on 11/20/2010 10:04:04 AM PST by ChowChowFace
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To: Noumenon

Bump


160 posted on 11/20/2010 10:18:27 AM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: maine-iac7
The chill of watching those TSA people molest people because they "have the power!" is a very frightening glimpse of how easily people in ANY society would turn on their fellow citizens if given the chance to do so with impunity.

Yes, the recent machinations and excesses of the TSA prove the poitn of this essay. The will to power is governed neither by conscience nor by any sort of moral sanctions. It's the road to, and the prerequisite for, atrocity and slaughter.

161 posted on 11/22/2010 2:09:54 PM PST by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: Noumenon

you did yourself proud. A great undertaking that is quite succinct.

BTTT


162 posted on 01/10/2011 1:06:02 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Noumenon

One big bump.


163 posted on 01/20/2011 6:35:03 PM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: Noumenon
Bookmark
164 posted on 01/27/2011 11:59:31 AM PST by ExSoldier (Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.)
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To: Grizzled Bear
Who is "Anny?"
tryanny = tryanny

That was funny!

165 posted on 01/27/2011 1:11:01 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Noumenon
That’s ‘Try anny key’
I learned as well.
(it's still funny)
166 posted on 01/27/2011 1:16:44 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Noumenon
This is precisely why the Gramscian ‘change agents’ have largely succeeded in destroying both.
I intended to address your essay with you eventually so I'll do it now since you've brought it up.
Firstly...well said! A second reading is highly recommended.

And so to my initial point...

We now live in a nation where policies and politics of the 'progressive', Gramscian Left have been formulated expressly to promulgate class and gender warfare, ignorance, passivity, racial division, poverty, envy, and hatred of the good for being good. It is the prerequisite for the acquisition and exercise of unlimited authority and power. It is, in fact, precisely the outcome desired by Gramscian Marxists who now comprise our cultural elite.

I couldn't agree more and I would suggest that you give a short description similar to that which you used previously for Freud, Marx, etc. explaining Gramsci at that point. There are still people who have no idea who you're talking about.

Then resume with...TheyGramscian Marxists are the heirs of those who had had...

167 posted on 01/27/2011 1:30:36 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
Thanks for the commentary and the suggestions. I've had to re-think a few things after reading Chantal Delsol's Icarus Fallen and The Unlearned Lessons of the Twentieth Century. Going to take a second and third pass through the two titles to really get the complete gist of what she's up to. And I can't even agree with all of her ideas regarding human nature and the fate of Man, but her ideas and the insights fairly leap off of every page. Highly, highly recommended for anyone who wants a deeper insight into our modern times. For example, Delsol, in The Unlearned Lessons of the Twentieth Century understands the roots of the tortured thinking and pretzel logic the left employs:

Vital resistance and resentment are the two main responses to the events of 1989. Vital resistance: the mind realizes its mistake - it admits, for example, that nationalization of the means of production does not produce a happy society, but rather laziness and constant shortages; it refuses, however, to let go of the idea because of its passionate attachment to it. Existence - adventures, friendships, successes - is nourished and permeated by this belief to such an extent that the belief becomes an identity; the individual cannot renounce it without committing a kind of symbolic suicide. No one can admit... that his existence reflects the echo of a failure.

In other words, no one wants to admit that the premises upon which one has constructed their entire raison d’être is an empty, shrieking fraud. This goes a long way towards explaining why we still see excuses made for the monstrous crimes of the monsters on the Left.

Getting back to Killers Without Conscisnce, the path I've taken with the book so far is that there are two streams of thought, two memes, really that converged with disastrous results in the last two hundred years (a period of time that Delsol also happen sto agree with).

First of all, we have what I characterize as the dehumanization of humanity: Marx. Freud, B.F. Skinner and Nietzsche. We find examples of their contemporaries in the likes of Emanuel Ezekiel, John Holdren and Cass Sunstein. The main recurrent theme in their works is that humans are nothing more than things, animals or machines. We can all understand the downside of that particular view.

Then we have the uniquely destructive meme associated with the undermining of culture in order to weaken it, destroy it, and replace it with a totalitarian system. All as proposed by Antonio Gramsci in his call for the 'long march through the institutions.' This idea has been echoed, amplified and modified over the decades by Herbert Marcuse (repressive tolerance), Saul Alinsky, and the Cloward-Piven duo. the aims of this particular set of monsters is best eexemplified by a banner I saw at an leftist-anarchist demonstration - Burn the old world to reveal the new. Eerily echoed in a line from The Dark Knight: "Some men just want to watch the world burn..."

Crossing those streams, as Dr. Spengler said to Dr. Venkman, would be very bad. And so it has been. Trouble is, what's coming as a result of that convergence has the potential to make the worst excesses of the last century look like a Girl Scout picnic by comparison. That's the thrust of my book. No one has to like it. But odds are we will have to live it.

168 posted on 01/27/2011 2:05:11 PM PST by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: Darnright; Noumenon
An excellent article on Antonio Gramsci
I agree.
169 posted on 01/27/2011 2:06:03 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Noumenon
Antonio Gramsci has an entire chapter in the re-work...
My recommendation is covered before I make it. That's what I get for responding too early.
170 posted on 01/27/2011 8:35:24 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Noumenon
I seems my reading list has grown much longer than yours.
I've stopped reading a lot as of late when I shouldn't have.
Pessimism is most insidious.
171 posted on 01/27/2011 8:44:34 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

As the old saying goes, the truth shall make you free. But not always comfortable. In the end our best defense against the dark siders is the truth.


172 posted on 01/27/2011 8:54:24 PM PST by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: philman_36

Also, Delsol is worth every minute you spend on her works. Just remember, it’s written from a European perspective, and hence not quite so vigorous and independent of mind as ours might be. Also consider: France has been ruled (not governed) by a succession of kings, tyrants, terrorists, murderous revolutionaries and socialists. They took a page from our revolution and made of theirs a slaughterhouse. Makes Delsol’s work all the more remarkable for that.


173 posted on 01/27/2011 8:58:54 PM PST by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: Noumenon

Thanks Noumenon I have been trying to put this into words myself, this is powerful.


174 posted on 01/27/2011 9:07:09 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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To: Noumenon

Wouldn’t you also say that on a smaller scale Kermit Gosnell, the abortionist recently arrested in Philadelphia was a by product of these toxic philosophies?


175 posted on 01/27/2011 9:10:40 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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To: pastorbillrandles

Bumping it UP.


176 posted on 02/08/2011 12:02:09 PM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: pastorbillrandles
Wouldn’t you also say that on a smaller scale Kermit Gosnell, the abortionist recently arrested in Philadelphia was a by product of these toxic philosophies?

Yes. I am more than ever convinced that the behavior of monsters such as Gosnell can only make sense in that context. For darksiders like Gosnell, extinguishing a life resresents the ultimate exercise of power within the narrow confiens of his own life. Given sufficient power, men like Gosnell would cheerfully extinguish whole societies. It's an appetite for control that can never be satiated or appeased.

For those who think that this notion is extreme or tin foil hattery, I submit the the history of the last two hundred years as my witness: it's been done. Repeatedly.

177 posted on 03/07/2011 8:40:54 AM PST by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: Noumenon

Amen Noumenon , thanks for the excellent writing, do you have anything else I would be interested in along the same lines?


178 posted on 03/07/2011 9:44:24 AM PST by pastorbillrandles
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To: Lurker

Avast, me hearty - what say you about Ms. Delsol? Arrrrrr?

Sorry about that - went briefly into pirate mode. I’m OK now.

I think.


179 posted on 03/16/2011 11:47:29 AM PDT by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: Noumenon
Excellent writing, Noumenon.You should publish the expanded version. It'll be interesting reading.

I must have missed this last year - one of my 2010 hospital visits, I guess.

Stay well and safe ........................... FRegards

180 posted on 03/16/2011 7:42:31 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms .................. FRegards)
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To: gonzo

Thanks for the compliment. The book’s coming together, but it’s taking a longer than I first thought. The research I’ve done has opened some new lines of inquiry, and the work will be better for it.

In theimmortal words of the late Harpseal:

Stay well, stay safe, stay armed, stay free.


181 posted on 03/17/2011 8:15:05 AM PDT by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: Noumenon

Excellent FRiend.


182 posted on 03/24/2011 9:48:42 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Noumenon

Glad this was posted again... I missed it the first time around. Great stuff in there Noumenon!


183 posted on 03/24/2011 10:55:26 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: Noumenon

I thought parts of it seemed familiar, excellent work.
We must stand against these monsters in all things, big
and small.

Well done.
tet.


184 posted on 03/24/2011 11:16:33 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Thanks. The book will be a jaw-dropper, I think. The unwillingness of our scholars and philosophers to recognize the evil done in the pursuit the will to power speaks to the biggest falsification of the truth in our time.


185 posted on 03/25/2011 9:59:53 AM PDT by Noumenon ("How do we know when the Government is like that guy with the van and the handcuffs?" --Henry Bowman)
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To: JDoutrider; I got the rope

Thanks, all. Putting the book together has been a real exercise in connecting the dots. Revelatory, and not always comforatable. Hope to get it out late this summer.


186 posted on 03/25/2011 10:04:45 AM PDT by Noumenon ("How do we know when the Government is like that guy with the van and the handcuffs?" --Henry Bowman)
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To: Noumenon
Just wow! Not sure how I missed this last year, but there is so little "meat" on the forum these past years that I have gotten sloppy on staying alert.

I appreciate the email heads-up pointing me here... I will have to read your essay a couple more times before I comment specifically.

However, at first reading it is an excellent throwback to the pre-2000 years when such thought-provoking original essays were common on FR. Often on opposing views of the same subject, prediction, or concept, yet usually well thought out, intellectually stimulating, and "fiercely" defended.

The book may require a ceramic cover...{:-) IMHO, Hitler-redux and his book burners are already assembled and waiting in the wings...

187 posted on 04/24/2011 10:47:27 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: SuperLuminal
Yeah, I think I might have to publish on asbestos pages - I'm calling things by their proper names and exploring the rise to supremacy one of the darkest aspects of human nature. This will please no one who seeks power, and it'll genuinely piss off the roses, puppies and unicorn optomists who think everything's going to be just fine. It isn't. That's manifestly not what a dispassionate look at history and human nature teaches us.

A couple of authors have come close, but still choose to dance around the subject. Check out Chantal Delsol's landmark Unlearned Lessons of the Twentieth Century. It's a distinctly European point of view, but it holds true for all of that. She does however, overlook our unique but waning American sanse of exceptionalism, optomisnm and strangth of character. For example, take this excerpt from Unlearned Lessons where she deftly exposes the roots of the Left's irrationalism.

Vital resistance and resentment are the two main responses to the events of 1989. Vital resistance: the mind realizes its mistake - it admits, for example, that nationalization of the means of production does not produce a happy society, but rather laziness and constant shortages; it refuses, however, to let go of the idea because of its passionate attachment to it. Existence - adventures, friendships, successes - is nourished and permeated by this belief to such an extent that the belief becomes an identity; the individual cannot renounce it without committing a kind of symbolic suicide. No one can admit... that his existence reflects the echo of a failure.
In other words, no one wants to admit that the premises upon which one has constructed their entire raison d’etre is an empty, shrieking fraud. This goes a long way towards explaining the tortured mental gymnastics and pretzel logic employed by the liberal Left in this country. Strongly recommend this author.

Lee Harris - another brilliant writer concludes his Civilization and Its Enemies with this:

"...we must all struggle to overcome the collective tendency of civilized men and women to forgetfulness. For that, in truth, is the ultimate question facing us today. Can the West overcome the forgetfulness that is the nemesis of every successful civilization? If it can, then there is hope that mankind will be able to move forward to a higher stage of historical development. If it cannot, then the next stage of history will be one that we once hoped never to see again."

I know the answer to that question. The memory of how we got here, how we achieved our freedom and at what cost has been systematically purged from the general consciousness. Not necessarily from ours, but from that of many of our countrymen. Harris' concluding sentence is the price that we will all pay for that forgetfulness - particularly so, as so-called progressives' view of history reads like a cut and paste ransom note.

188 posted on 04/25/2011 2:36:37 PM PDT by Noumenon ("How do we know when the Government is like that guy with the van and the handcuffs?" --Henry Bowman)
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To: SuperLuminal

A Sunday bump for a good discussion...


189 posted on 05/22/2011 9:30:36 AM PDT by Noumenon ("One man with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Noumenon

bump


190 posted on 05/28/2011 10:57:26 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Noumenon

Bump for later


191 posted on 05/28/2011 2:21:53 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Noumenon

“As Professor Rummel has shown in Death by Government, democide has been committed in the name of many causes, beliefs and ideologies. Historically, the slaughter of entire populations has been a matter of national, racial, cultural, religious and political policy. But democide is seldom aimed at an individual. It is always the group that is the target. Democide is possible only where individuals have been defined in terms of a group identity. Where this is not the case, mass violence is virtually unknown.

No one wages war on humanity in the name of individualism - R. J. Rummel”

Truth! Good rant!


192 posted on 05/28/2011 3:43:51 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Noumenon
Have you read this?

The Goal of Socialism

Difficulties in understanding socialist ideology arise when we try to correlate its doctrinal prescriptions for the organization of society with the actual forms of these principles as they are realized in history. For example, the picture of a society "in which the free development of each will be the precondition of the free development of all" contains no contradiction. But when the "leading theoretician" asserts that the creation of this harmonious man is achieved by shooting, we are face to face with a paradox. The view of socialism to which we have come encounters the same kind of difficulties and must be tested by this means for inconsistency. It is not enough to say that all the basic principles of socialist ideology derive from the urge to suppress individuality. It is necessary also to understand what this tendency portends for mankind and how it arises. We shall begin with the former question.

At the end of the preceding chapter we sketched the "ideal" socialist society as it appears in the classical writings of socialism. Of the features enumerated, we shall consider only one: state upbringing of children from infancy so that they do not know their parents. It is natural to begin with this aspect of the socialist ideal, if only because it would be the first thing that an individual born into this society would face. This measure is suggested with striking consistency from Plato to Liadov, a leading Soviet theoretician of the 1920s. In the 1970s, the Japanese police arrested members of the "Red Army," a Trotskyite organization, which was responsible for a number of murders. Although this group numbered only a few dozen people, it had all the attributes of a real socialist party--theoreticians, a split on the question of whether revolution should occur in one country or in the entire world at once, terror against dissidents. The group established itself in a lonely mountain region. And the same trait surfaced here: they took newborn children away from their mothers, entrusted them to other women for upbringing and fed them on powdered milk, despite difficulties in obtaining it. Let us quote from a book by the modern ethologist Eibl-Eibesfeldt, which will help us evaluate the biological significance of this measure:

It is especially in the second half of the first year of life that a child establishes personal ties with its mother or a person substituting for her (a nurse, a matron). This contact is the precondition for the development of "primary trust" (E. H. Erikson), the basis for the attitude toward oneself and the world. The child learns to trust his partner, and this positive basic orientation is the foundation of a healthy personality. If these contacts are broken, "primary distrust" develops. A prolonged stay in the hospital during the child's second year may, for example, lead to such results. Though the child will try even there to establish close contact with a mother substitute, no nurse will be able to devote herself intensively enough to an infant for a close personal tie to be established. Nurses constantly change, and so the contacts that arise are constantly broken. The child, deceived in his expectations of contact, falls into a state of apathy after a brief outburst of protest. During the first month of his stay in the hospital he whines and clings to anyone available. During the second month he usually cries and loses weight. During the third month such children only weep quietly and finally become thoroughly apathetic. If after three to four months' separation they are taken home, they return to normal. But if they stay in the hospital longer, the trauma becomes irreversible.. ..In one orphanage where R. Spitz studied ninety-one children who had been separated from their mothers in the third month of their lives, thirty-four died before they reached the age of two. The level of development of the survivors was only 45 percent of normal and the children were almost like idiots. Many of them could neither walk nor stand nor speak at age four. (148: p.234)

This may be applied to the whole of a society built on the consistent implementation of socialist ideals. Not only people but even animals cannot exist if reduced to the level of the cogs of a mechanism. Even such a seemingly elementary act as eating is not reducible to the mere satiation of the organism. For an animal to eat, it is not enough that it be hungry and that food be available; the food must be enticing, "appetizing," as well. And in more complex actions involving several ,individuals, such as raising of young, the common defense of territory or hunting, animals establish relations that usually are ritualistic in nature and that elicit great excitement and undoubtedly provide deep satisfaction. For animals, these ties constitute "the meaning of life"; if they are broken, the animal becomes apathetic, does not take food, and becomes an easy victim for a predator. To a far greater extent, this applies to man. But for him, all the aspects of life that make it attractive and give it meaning are connected with manifestations of individuality. Therefore, a consistent implementation of the principles of socialism deprives human life of individuality and simultaneously deprives life of its meaning and attraction. As suggested by the example of the orphaned children, it would lead to the physical extinction of the group in which these principles are in force, and if they should triumph through the world--to the extinction of mankind. But the conclusion that we have reached has yet to be tested by history because the socialist ideals have nowhere achieved complete implementation. The primitive states of the ancient Orient and pre-Columbian America had a very weakly developed socialist ideology. In keeping with Shang Yang's principle ("When the people are weak the state is strong; when the state is weak the people are strong"), particularly strong, conservative and long-lived state structures were created. In these states, however, the principle of the "weak people" was understood only in the sense of external, physical limitations--choice of work, place of residence, severe limitations on private property, the large number of official duties. These duties did not touch the life within the family or cut deeply into man's soul. They were not ideologically inspired, and it was apparently the same patriarchal quality that preserved these states from dying out but, on the other hand, left them defenseless in the face of new spiritual forces called forth by the abrupt shifts of the first millennium B.C.

The socialist states of the twentieth century are also far from being a model of the complete realization of socialist ideals. But one must note that when survival is at stake, it was achieved in these states precisely by giving up some fundamental socialist principle. This occurred with the introduction of the New Economic Policy in Soviet Russia and with the halt ordered by Stalin in the persecution of religion during World War II.

However, it is possible to point out a number of similar situations which may serve, though indirectly, to support our point of view.

It happens not infrequently that a nation or a social group dies out not because of economic reasons or due to destruction by enemies but because the spiritual conditions of its existence are destroyed.

[...]

the dying and, ultimately, the complete extinction of mankind is not a chance external consequence of the embodiment of the socialist ideal but that this impulse is a fundamental and organic part of socialist ideology. To a greater or lesser degree it is consciously perceived as such by its partisans and even serves them as inspiration.

[...]

Conclusion

This paradoxical phenomenon may be understood only if we allow that the idea of the death of humanity can be attractive to man and that the impulse to self-destruction (even if it is only one of many tendencies) plays a role in human history. And there is in fact much evidence to support this hypothesis, particularly among phenomena that play an essential role in the spiritual life of mankind. Quite independently of socialism, each of these leads to the same conclusion.

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We have arrived at this view of socialism in attempting to account for the contradictions evident in the phenomenon at first glance. And now, looking back, we feel confident that our approach indeed accounts for many of socialism's peculiarities. Understanding socialism as one of the manifestations of the allure of death explains its hostility toward individuality, its desire to destroy those forces which support and strengthen human personality: religion, culture, family, individual property. It is consistent with the tendency to reduce man to the level of a cog in the state mechanism, as well as with the attempt to prove that man exists only as a manifestation of nonindividual features, such as production or class interest. The view of man as an instrument of other forces, in turn, makes it possible to understand the astonishing psychology of the leaders of the socialist movements: on the one hand, the readiness and even the striving to erase one's own personality, to submit it completely to the aims of the movement (so obvious in the statements of Piatakov and Trotsky cited earlier) and, on the other hand, the complete collapse of will, the renunciation of one's convictions in case of defeat (Müntzer and Johann of Leyden, Bakunin in his "Confession," the behavior of Zinoviev, Bukharin and others at the trials, etc.). In fact, if the instrument is no longer needed, all meaning for its existence is lost, and in man's soul the source of courage and spiritual strength runs dry. (Bakunin, for example, both before and after his imprisonment is quite a different person from the utterly broken and self-abasing author of the "Confession." And Bukharin, in his emotional "Testament," says that he has no differences with Stalin and that he has had none for a long time. He thereby dismisses his entire activity and even deprives himself of the right to protest against his own execution, since that would involve a disagreement.) This point of view is consistent with the calls to universal destruction, with the attractiveness of destructive forces like wars and crises, with the allure of death and the idea of Nothingness.

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Returning to our specific theme, we see that the striving for self-destruction expressed in socialism not only is not analogous or "equivalent" to other forces acting in history, but is fundamentally distinct from them in character. For example, in contrast to a religious or a national ideology, which openly proclaims its goals, the "death instinct" that is embodied in socialism appears in the guise of religion, reason, social justice, national endeavors or science, and never shows its true face. Apparently its action is the stronger the more directly it is perceived by the subconscious part of the psyche, but only on condition that consciousness remains unaware.

[...]

...if we suppose that the significance of socialism for mankind consists in the acquisition of specific experience, then much has been acquired on this path in the last hundred years. There is, first of all, the profound experience of Russia, the significance of which we are only now beginning to understand. The question therefore arises: will this experience be sufficient? Is it sufficient for the entire world and especially for the West? Indeed, is it sufficient for Russia? Shall we be able to comprehend its meaning? Or is mankind destined to pass through this experience on an immeasurably larger scale? There is no doubt that if the ideals of Utopia are realized universally, mankind, even in the barracks of the universal City of the Sun, shall find the strength to regain its freedom and to preserve God's image and likeness--human individuality--once it has glanced into the yawning abyss. But will even that experience be sufficient? For it seems just as certain that the freedom of will granted to man and to mankind is absolute, that it includes the freedom to make the ultimate choice--between life and death.

(The Socialist Phenomenon)

Sorry for the long quote. The book itself is much longer though and the bulk of it is an encyclopaedic research into protosocialist societies of the past. And that feature makes it so chilling for us in America, where we naively think that by rearranging the slogans we can avoid the fate, and in fact, the goal, of every other socialist society.

193 posted on 05/29/2011 10:34:51 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: DuncanWaring

We will have a nuclear attack here soon. That is the ultimate powergrab.

The government is even warning us on a daily basis in those public service announcements.


194 posted on 07/19/2011 3:51:19 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proved to prevent totalitarian genocide.)
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To: DuncanWaring

We will have a nuclear attack here soon. That is the ultimate powergrab.

The government is even warning us on a daily basis in those public service announcements.


195 posted on 07/19/2011 3:51:31 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proved to prevent totalitarian genocide.)
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To: Chickensoup

Where’s “here”?

Maine?


196 posted on 07/19/2011 5:19:47 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

No, the US. It is a matter of time. and time is short.


197 posted on 07/19/2011 5:33:29 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proved to prevent totalitarian genocide.)
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To: Noumenon

How did I miss this? Everything from Hoffer to Nietzsche boiled down into a concise, erudite descriptive missive on
collective and social evil.

I’ll print and re-read and get back to you. Congratulations
on a extremely well written article.

Thank you


198 posted on 07/19/2011 6:15:08 PM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: OregonRancher; DuncanWaring; Lurker
You're most welcome. The follow-on commentary is also thought provoking. I've had some serious concerns about the validity of some of my premises from time to time, but the effort I've put into chasing down all of those doubts and concerns has been well spent. Spent a lot of time with Chantal Delsol, Daniel Goldhagen, Eric Hoffer, Solzhenitsyn and others. Look for a book-length edition of this essay in another few months. The rise of the will to power and its exercise by mass-murdering monsters has been the curse of modernity, and it is the direct consequence of very bad, very evil ideas. As Goldhagen puts it in his Worse Than War: Genocide, Eliminationism, and the Ongoing Assault on Humanity, "Mass murder begins in the minds of men."

Far, far worse awaits us - and I mean all of humanity - if we fail to stop these monsters. Here, now, in America we are the last bastion of liberty and the last hope for resistance against a nightfall of slaughter, horror and atrocity that could spell the end our humanity, if not species. That which may exist after a thousand years of the triumph of that sort of evil, we can not call human.

My task, as I see it, is to spell this out in clear, plain English and in no uncertain terms. To spell it out so that we may have no illusions as to the nature of our existential enemy and to acknowledge the terrible choices the we will have to make in order to defeat them, even if only for a time. For that struggle is as old as mankind and it will have no end. This is what I hope to achieve in this book.

199 posted on 07/19/2011 8:46:34 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: Noumenon

Mass murder begins with the father of lies, a murderer from the start. Then, as this evil inveigles the minds of men, the twisted men come up with ways to ‘mass produce’ the nature of their father. We such an one in the White House currently ...


200 posted on 07/19/2011 8:54:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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