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Meet the Unemployable Man
Wall Street Journal ^ | May 6, 2010

Posted on 05/07/2010 5:17:56 PM PDT by NCjim

The betting is that the Labor Department's Friday snapshot of the job market will show that employers added workers in April, perhaps even that the unemployment rate fell.

That would be good news, but not good enough. It's hard to exaggerate how bad the job market is. Here's one arresting fact: One of every five men 25 to 54 isn't working.

Even more alarming, the jobs that many of these men, or those like them, once had in construction, factories and offices aren't coming back. "A good guess…is that when the economy recovers five years from now, one in six men who are 25 to 54 will not be working," Lawrence Summers, the president's economic adviser, said the other day.

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1 posted on 05/07/2010 5:17:56 PM PDT by NCjim
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To: NCjim
with the new 96 weeks of unemployment pay I intend on retiring at 63 and drawing unemployment for the last two years before my ss kicks in.
2 posted on 05/07/2010 5:20:51 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: NCjim
one in six men who are 25 to 54 will not be working," Lawrence Summers, the president's economic adviser, said the other day.

I hope those are the ones that voted for "hope and change"

3 posted on 05/07/2010 5:21:09 PM PDT by 2aberro
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To: 2aberro

They all aren’t.....I was axed and I did not vote for the clown in chief.


4 posted on 05/07/2010 5:22:05 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: NCjim
One of every five men 25 to 54 isn't working.

What is the ratio of want to work/refuse to work males between 25 and 54 is?

5 posted on 05/07/2010 5:24:58 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: NCjim
I've been unemployable my entire life. Tried working for someone else once. Yikes! Thank you high school economics teacher that pointed out, if you are working for someone else, that is exactly what you are doing. Much better to work for yourself if you can manage yourself.

I've pulled out the self-butt-kicker a few times. Better me giving myself a kick over a mistake than getting the boot from someone else.

6 posted on 05/07/2010 5:26:23 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: NCjim

Maybe he just wants men to go back to school and get a competitive edge....or not.


7 posted on 05/07/2010 5:28:10 PM PDT by MissyMack66
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To: guitarplayer1953

For real? Good for you, man!


8 posted on 05/07/2010 5:28:50 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Paul Ryan/Greg Abbott in 2012.)
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To: NCjim

OK. 17% unemployment for prime working years is acceptable to Presidential advisors and administrative policies?

Good to know.


9 posted on 05/07/2010 5:31:49 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: guitarplayer1953

ACHTUNG! ACHTUNG! You do not get unemployment pay if you voluntarily retire. (Or could it be that we have sunk this deep already?)


10 posted on 05/07/2010 5:33:49 PM PDT by 353FMG (Islam -- America's road to destruction.)
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To: combat_boots

Anyone remember how bad the economy was under Bush when unemployment was 5.5%?

TV is totally backing Oama and if people watch or have cable and sat TV then people are a friend of the regime.


11 posted on 05/07/2010 5:34:36 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain/Graham = La Raza's Senators & Estefan-Rubio)
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To: NCjim; cripplecreek; Tijeras_Slim
Meet the Unemployable Man

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12 posted on 05/07/2010 5:35:33 PM PDT by ICAB9USA (I cut off part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: NCjim

I’m not sure I believe this.

I was in college studying business when Carter was in. They were saying the same things, that we had to get used to double digit unemployment, the new norm, the new Laffer curve etc.

I’ve always looked back on that as socialism setting low expectations of the economy so people wouldn’t be angry and shocked when the bad situation rolled on years without end because of liberal policies and agendas.

Fortunately the people didn’t buy it and voted in Reagan.


13 posted on 05/07/2010 5:35:59 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: NCjim
ALL THE MORE REASON TO BOOT ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS OUT OF THE UNITED STATES.
14 posted on 05/07/2010 5:40:52 PM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: ICAB9USA

ICAB,
is that you?


15 posted on 05/07/2010 5:41:39 PM PDT by PuzzledInTX
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To: I still care

The country changed a lot since then.

Back during Carter Americans were hostages to muslims in Iran.

Today Americans are hostage to a muslim in America.

The fools in NY voted for a muslim 7 years after 9-11.


16 posted on 05/07/2010 5:47:24 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain/Graham = La Raza's Senators & Estefan-Rubio)
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To: I still care

Your comment has NOTHING to do with the fact that MEN AREN’T BEING HIRED. Don’t think this isn’t by design either. There isn’t a single textbook out there that’ll tell you WHY that’s happening. You’ll need wisdom and common sense to figure that out and they can’t teach you that in school.


17 posted on 05/07/2010 5:53:43 PM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: I still care
Fortunately the people didn’t buy it and voted in Reagan.

Yes, but during the Reagan Era, there were still many jobs for men who lacked higher or even high school educations. The housing industry was growing steadily and dominated by American carpenters. There were still a great deal of factories staffed by an uneducated, American workforce. There were jobs that a man with little education could still earn a decent living at.

Those jobs are gone and short of some radical economic changes, they aren't coming back. Does anyone think the factories whose assembly lines have long since been relocated to China are going to reopen?

Right now, the "unemployable" (not just unemployed) man is a high school dropout with a criminal record. He has a low IQ and probably reads at a 4th grade level, if that. There used to be jobs for these men. Today there are few of these jobs and these unemployable men have to compete with smarter guys who have stronger work ethics or they have to compete with immigrants who will work twice as hard for a fraction of the pay. It's going to be pretty grim for a huge demographic of young men and I just don't see it changing. In history, when there was a glut of young unemployed men, they were turned into soldiers and spent on the battlefield. Today, even the Army isn't hiring these guys. We're about to see legions of the terminally unemployed men and men who have never in their lives held jobs and it's going to be ugly. We're going to need to build more prisons.

18 posted on 05/07/2010 5:57:47 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: NCjim

If I were some mealy-mouthed incumbent politician or smug political insider and I read that it was likely that an army of 10’s of millions of men in their prime were going to be unemployed for the next 5 years based largely on the crap done by government over the past several years, I would be scared shitless.


19 posted on 05/07/2010 6:00:05 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Frantzie

Yep, the demographics of this country are completely different today than they were in 1980.


20 posted on 05/07/2010 6:01:57 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Drew68
We're about to see legions of the terminally unemployed men and men who have never in their lives held jobs and it's going to be ugly.

Back in the 20s and 30s in Germany, these "unemployable men" became SA Brownshirts.

21 posted on 05/07/2010 6:03:20 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: EGPWS

I hope it doesn’t happen to you, regardless of your age. Do not feel so secure yourself, looking down on others, passing judgment without knowledge. It took me a year to find a job as a worker in a warehouse; after making 90k a year as a system’s analyst. Now I work as a field tech computer/network man, making 15 per hour. And yes, I went back to school to no avail, and yes I’m 54 years old. Don’t be so quick to pull the trigger. It could happen to you.


22 posted on 05/07/2010 6:06:57 PM PDT by gedeon3 (Wake up America!! The enemy is among us!)
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To: NCjim

Isn’t this the goal of the left?


23 posted on 05/07/2010 6:08:05 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Drew68
You are wrong; you are being very ignorant. I have a degree with a 3.74 GPA. Used to be a programmer/systems analyst. I do not have a low IQ(maybe you do). I was a programmer for 7 years.
24 posted on 05/07/2010 6:10:45 PM PDT by gedeon3 (Wake up America!! The enemy is among us!)
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To: historyrepeatz

I am finishing up at a construction job at a sensitive US military installation. By my rough estimate, 40% of the workers are “Hispanic”, with most speaking very little English.

Earlier this week, the hotel our crew stays at had a crew of 12-15 Guatemalans doing yard work.(In my feeble Spanish I asked them, “What is your home country”) “Guatemala” was their reply.

I have had several friends from Canada & Africa try to get visas or Green Cards. It is a very difficult & expensive process. I have a hard time believing that most of the immigrant workers are here legally.

Immigrants are great. My ancestors were immigrants from England, Scotland, Mongolia/Siberia via the Ice Age land bridge to Alaska, etc. However, we need to follow the law or else change it. Make a “Guest Worker” category.


25 posted on 05/07/2010 6:10:47 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: dfwgator

Correct. And for much the same reasons.


26 posted on 05/07/2010 6:12:29 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: NCjim

Unemployable man
27 posted on 05/07/2010 6:14:04 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: gedeon3

It could happen to ANYone including doctors, lawyers and dentists....and it is.

Hot shot lawyer at a big firm? Downsized and they are lucky they will be doing real estate closings or foreclosurs. Doctors - they may be totally screwed due to Obamacare. Dentists? Rough business.

Journalist? LOL!

Flying high during Bush owning your own business? I see restaurants at lunch that are empty.

Sadly many Americans keep watching TV and paying cable and sat TV bills and all the networks control all the channels and they are ALL for Obama. The fools pay to keep the propaganda going. Amazing.


28 posted on 05/07/2010 6:14:34 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain/Graham = La Raza's Senators & Estefan-Rubio)
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To: gedeon3
You are wrong; you are being very ignorant. I have a degree with a 3.74 GPA. Used to be a programmer/systems analyst. I do not have a low IQ(maybe you do). I was a programmer for 7 years.

Lighten up. If you'd read my post, you'd see I wrote of a difference between "unemployed" and UNEMPLOYABLE. I'm not talking about educated, hard-working men who are down on their luck. These men will eventually land on their feet. I'm talking about unemployable men lacking the education and ambition to compete in a modern workforce that requires both. There are no jobs for these men today.

29 posted on 05/07/2010 6:16:03 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: gedeon3

Drew68 is a known Obi s**ll.


30 posted on 05/07/2010 6:16:26 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain/Graham = La Raza's Senators & Estefan-Rubio)
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To: rabidralph

His dad must be rich for her to date him.


31 posted on 05/07/2010 6:18:53 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: gedeon3
It could happen to you.

Again?

32 posted on 05/07/2010 6:20:45 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: gedeon3
I feel your pain.Same situation.Our prez says that I should be encouraged,his plans work and he saved us!I am proud to be a 9.9 percenter!Shovel ready this BHO!November please get here!
33 posted on 05/07/2010 6:21:26 PM PDT by shanover (These are the times that try men's souls....tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered-T. Paine)
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To: gedeon3
Do not feel so secure yourself, looking down on others, passing judgment without knowledge.

Mirrors can be your friend at times my FRiend.

Think, engage, and react.

The order is important IMO.

Have a great weekend.

Regards,
EG

34 posted on 05/07/2010 6:24:32 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: ICAB9USA

He’s on my short list of employable people.


35 posted on 05/07/2010 6:26:26 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Sawdring

That is Chasity Bono, the daughter of the late Sonny Bono and his first wife Cher.


36 posted on 05/07/2010 6:27:58 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("A corrupt society has many laws" - Tacitus)
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To: NCjim
Sidelining a huge part of an entire generation of men would waste human potential, create economic misery for their families and fuel political discontent.

Notice how they added that little tidbit at the very end....

Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!

37 posted on 05/07/2010 6:29:30 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo
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To: dfwgator

FWIW, and a little off topic... Laura Ingraham interviewed someone this morning who said that the new trend is adult losers moving in with the parents. We all know that — but it’s worse. They’re actually taking Mom and/or Dad on job interviews with them. Supposedly, Home Depot is having to address the issue of how to conduct a job interview with an applicant accompanied by a parent. Good grief!!


38 posted on 05/07/2010 6:36:10 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Every time a liberal whines, an angel gets his wings.)
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To: Frantzie

I’m going to admit something I haven’t before. I am unemployed, and I’m a doctor. I was downsized from the conglomerate that I worked for. I’ve been looking for a position for a year now. And because of the non-compete clauses in my contract I have to look WAY outside of where I live. I may have to leave the state. The recession IS hitting everyone. I thought I was bulletproof in my profession.


39 posted on 05/07/2010 6:38:28 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: Frantzie
Anyone remember how bad the economy was under Bush when unemployment was 5.5%?

Oh yeah. Obama Jr called those times, "the worst economy since the great depression."

40 posted on 05/07/2010 6:47:10 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: gedeon3

Some people really believe there is a job tree where one can simply pluck a job any time they want!

I hope these people feel the pain of joblessness.....I am not one to wish ill on others, but the arrogance of some here is unbelievable.

(and yes, I am unemployed)


41 posted on 05/07/2010 6:47:30 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: gedeon3

I’m not buying it. People who work hard, show up every day and display positive attitude are solid gold for employers. Those people will always have work. The ones who are finding themselves out of the mix are the slackers, the ones that always call in sick on Mondays and Fridays, gripe in the parking lot about their 2% raises, and put up a fuss when they are asked to work more than the standard 8 hour day.


42 posted on 05/07/2010 6:52:22 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 107 days away from outliving Francis Gary Powers)
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To: Frantzie
Drew68 is a known Obi s**ll.

Isn't there an "Orly Taitz is gonna save America!" thread you should be cheerleading on?

43 posted on 05/07/2010 7:16:09 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: ICAB9USA

That’s the unemployable midget.


44 posted on 05/07/2010 7:17:31 PM PDT by Gapplega
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To: gedeon3; All

Exactly. My husband went to work at his factory every day for 27 years. He wasn’t just some shlub that worked the lines either, not that there is anything wrong with a person willing to work hard regardless of the job. He is a robotics arm technician by trade, but all the robotics arms are in China, Mexico or Central/South America. Since his plant moved to Brazil, he became a certified welder, but those jobs aren’t that plentiful right now unless you already have experience. Oh, and he IS a high school grad. Right now we are hoping to get on at some mines out west. We’ll move if we have to. We went to the industrial area of Kentucky/Tennessee and they had signs on the doors “Not accepting applications; please do not inquire.” It reminded me of those signs during the Great Depression saying “No jobs here, keep moving” and I cried almost all the way back home.

He is nearly 50 and not many places willing to hire a 50 year old with no experience when they can get the strength of a 20 year old with no experience.

As a person who thought 20 years ago that industrial insurance was the way to go, I am finding that without industry, not many need insurance. As an account manager with experience in all lines of commercial insurance for builders (only one of the 70 General Contractors I used to represent are still in business), manufacturing, freight, transporation/trucking, etc... I am now working for the census and grateful for that paycheck for these few weeks.

It kind of disheartens me when Freepers want to judge people and I try to explain that this is not the typical recession. Many Freepers feel that lots of people would go back to work if unemployment was stopped and I think “WHERE??? Where would they go? Do you really think people who have house payments and kids to support are happy to work for 40% of their usual income? What kind of world are you not paying attention to?”

But then I usually get a story about a neighbor who is a lazy bum and everything I say gets ignored.


45 posted on 05/07/2010 7:19:01 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: I still care

http://www.rightwingnews.com/speeches/carter.php

Jimmy Carter’s Malaise Speech, 1979

“The threat is nearly invisible in ordinary ways. It is a crisis of confidence. It is a crisis that strikes at the very heart and soul and spirit of our national will. We can see this crisis in the growing doubt about the meaning of our own lives and in the loss of a unity of purpose for our Nation.

“The erosion of our confidence in the future is threatening to destroy the social and the political fabric of America.”

Many people think that this speech helped to make Jimmy a one-termer.


46 posted on 05/07/2010 7:19:03 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Sawdring

LOL!!

Wait, that was a joke, right? You do know who that is don’t you?

If you don’t, then that makes it MUCH MUCH funnier.


47 posted on 05/07/2010 7:21:08 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine

Great post. My thoughts are with you.


48 posted on 05/07/2010 7:21:18 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: boop

Are you a pediatrician by chance? My kids’ pediatrician was just diagnosed with a relapse of cancer and they are desperate for help.


49 posted on 05/07/2010 7:26:29 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: SamAdams76

Yeah, I’m with the poster above who doesn’t want to wish ill on anyone, but I wouldn’t mind being around to see a karma slap you down to size.


50 posted on 05/07/2010 7:27:38 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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