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New Alarm Bells About Chemicals and Cancer
NY Times ^ | May 6, 2010 | NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

Posted on 05/09/2010 5:50:48 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: editor-surveyor
Sorry, but they are cold and stiff before they are cut, and little blood is ever drained.

More utter rubbish. They are cut within seconds of stunning.

No need to be sorry. You just need help.

101 posted on 05/10/2010 9:25:44 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: editor-surveyor
I would hate to the Chinese have to deal with this issue also.
On a related note; I forgot to mention in my original post, that high levels of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in the Gulf of Mexico, close to the blown out oil well.
102 posted on 05/10/2010 9:29:31 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Chairman Mao was a community organizer)
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To: editor-surveyor

You have good genes. And a distorted idea about how our bodies work. I attempt to keep up with alternative healing as much as I can, but you completely misrepresent allopathic medicine. Diet and nutrition are important and there are many facets we can’t measure, yet. Unfortunately, most of your statements are completely unsupported.

I’m an allopathic family doctor, largely because of the grief docs gave me over breastfeeding and natural birth in the late 70’s, early ‘80’s. I was a member of La Leche League and reading Prevention when scientists were laughing about that journal’s reports on Folate and birth defects and infections and heart disease. Despite these two items, the rate of pure bunk is way too high and much higher than in the more traditional medical and science journals.


103 posted on 05/10/2010 9:42:45 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIA)
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To: hocndoc

The only ‘bunk’ is when supposed ‘alternative’ advocates cave in and market the same useless synthetic products that the AMA quacks do.

The real thing is costly to produce, and it can be difficult to convince people that it is worth it to provide their bodies with needed useable nutrients. This is a moral failure to be sure.
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104 posted on 05/11/2010 7:47:20 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“I would hate to the Chinese have to deal with this issue also.”

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Then send it to L.A. - They want all they can get!
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105 posted on 05/11/2010 7:49:23 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Like to be facetious?

I wasn't.

Bad habit if you ever expect to be taken seriously.

Quit projecting. The people that get taken seriously are those that can understand and use facts. If you want to tell me that water is destructive of my 4th chakra fine - I have no problem blowing you off. Might point out silly statements, but won't really care.

AFT antibiotics, you can make whatever unwarranted assumptions you wish, but you cannot produce any hard evidence to support them.

Support what? That they have saved countless lives? My understanding is that the facts would support a statement along the lines of "antibiotics have saved countless lives."

Feel free to let me know where that statement is incorrect.

Thrush is for people that depend on antibiotics.

And death by serious but treatable infections is for those who don't wisely take advantage of the benefits of antibiotics.

Honestly - you are going to propose thrush as a reason not to treat sepsis or bacterial pneumonia with antibiotics?

Get real and quit giving people crackpot advice. Not sure where you got your medical degree - but I will continue listening to those that have one...

106 posted on 05/11/2010 3:36:02 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: editor-surveyor
Sorry, but they are cold and stiff before they are cut, and little blood is ever drained. The hammer does the job.

The hammer is used to make a humane kill.

Much blood is drained.

You don't know what you are talking about.

You are a quack.

107 posted on 05/11/2010 3:45:53 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: !1776!

The hammer is not in any way humane!

The knife is the only humane kill, and the only healthy kill.

You are not yet up to the quack level, try harder.


108 posted on 05/11/2010 3:53:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: !1776!

“And death by serious but treatable infections is for those who don’t wisely take advantage of the benefits of antibiotics.”

Unmitigated BS! - 5000 years ago people lived to 800-900 years without antibiotics.

Get your head out of the sand.


109 posted on 05/11/2010 3:57:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Unmitigated BS! - 5000 years ago people lived to 800-900 years without antibiotics.

Honestly - you are not helping your cause...

In the middle ages - which happen to be well after your 5000 year ago benchmark, and well before antibiotics, people lived until what 30-40 years on average?

Keep trying to pull me into some strawman argument. You will quickly find that I am smarter than that.

I will not get sidetracked into a discussion where I am forced to defend or reject passages from the Bible in an unqualified position.

Again - facts are my friend. If you want to imply that the reason that people are reported to have lived to an age of 800 - 900 years because there were not antibiotics, then prove it. And also prove why that age appears to have dipped rather significantly 300 years prior to antibiotics. A little note as to why it went up after that might be in line also.

Going to have to stand fast by the quack alarm going off in my feable little mind...

Hopefully nobody who reads your posts make poor decisions based on your quackery.

Go ahead - throw another softball my way - I just love picking this kind of crap apart...

110 posted on 05/11/2010 4:43:58 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: editor-surveyor
The hammer is not in any way humane!

Define humane. The "hammer" is designed to and delivers an injury to the brain which imparts a virtually immidiate brain death. Since I am suspicious of your anatomical knowledge, that means that the organ which sense pain and delivers information to the body of the animal is destroyed almost instantly.

The knife is the only humane kill, and the only healthy kill.

Yeah - suffering a wound while you bleed out is much more humane that a split second lights out.

You are not yet up to the quack level, try harder.

I'm just starting to have fun. You really should just give up - each post you make is drifting further into nitwitville than the last.

As I mentioned before - now I am starting to have some fun...

111 posted on 05/11/2010 4:52:28 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: !1776!

Your lack of contact with reality is really your most productive asset; is that why you exercise it constantly?


112 posted on 05/11/2010 7:28:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: !1776!

” I just love picking this kind of crap apart”

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Yep, nose picker!

That’s all you’ve picked apart. Your IQ declines with each pick.


113 posted on 05/11/2010 7:30:48 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: !1776!

“In the middle ages - which happen to be well after your 5000 year ago benchmark, and well before antibiotics, people lived until what 30-40 years on average?”

A commonly repwated falsehood.

Promoted mostly by ignorant humanists that ignore the fact that there is no evidence to support that conclusion.

The decline from 800 year lifespans was due to humanism too. Your confused and self-deluded posts in defense of your imaginary benefit of poison consumption show you in your true state.

And you think that is ‘smart.’

The doctor that lived on our block believed as you. He died last month at 55, after a miserable battle with cancer and arthritis. A real poster child for the alopathic regieme. My dentist and his wife both died in their early fifties too. Its a wonderful life filling your body with deadly toxins. (and all the while lecturing those that don’t)

I’m so jealous.


114 posted on 05/11/2010 7:46:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor; !1776!

ES,
Many of us consider Genesis 6 to mean that the life span of humans to be no longer more than 120 years.

There is historical evidence that, life expectancy has increased significantly with the advent of chlorinated water, vaccinations, and antibiotics. None of these should be abused or overused, but they do save lives.


115 posted on 05/11/2010 9:53:52 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIA)
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To: hocndoc

Genesis 6 is post judgment, but many still lived much more than 120 years after that.

I suppose for the few that were drinking bacterially polluted water, mild chlorination might have increased some life spans, but the contrary is true for those that have clean water. Sanitation is the mark of an enlightened, and Godly society, to be sure.

I haven’t consumed chlorinated or fluoridated water for over 40 years.
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116 posted on 05/12/2010 3:08:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Your lack of contact with reality is really your most productive asset; is that why you exercise it constantly?

Methinks you are projecting again...

Care to provide any data to substantiate this - or any of your other claims?

Not holding my breath...

117 posted on 05/12/2010 4:01:00 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: editor-surveyor
That’s all you’ve picked apart. Your IQ declines with each pick. Hmm. Avoiding the questions or points made?

You don't get out much do you?

118 posted on 05/12/2010 4:02:31 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: editor-surveyor
A commonly repwated falsehood.

Mind supplying and facts or is that beneath your superior understanding of the universe?

The decline from 800 year lifespans was due to humanism too.

So it's not just the consumption of non-living chemicals...

Any additional refinements to your quack theories?

119 posted on 05/12/2010 4:06:36 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: !1776!

“So it’s not just the consumption of non-living chemicals”

A big part of the humanistic fallacy!

Man loves to overrule God.

Your strawmen are getting flimsier all the time.
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120 posted on 05/12/2010 9:11:20 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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