Earlier threads:
FReeper Book Club: The Debate over the Constitution
5 Oct 1787, Centinel #1
6 Oct 1787, James Wilsons Speech at the State House
8 Oct 1787, Federal Farmer #1
9 Oct 1787, Federal Farmer #2
18 Oct 1787, Brutus #1
22 Oct 1787, John DeWitt #1
27 Oct 1787, John DeWitt #2
27 Oct 1787, Federalist #1
31 Oct 1787, Federalist #2
3 Nov 1787, Federalist #3
5 Nov 1787, John DeWitt #3
7 Nov 1787, Federalist #4
10 Nov 1787, Federalist #5
14 Nov 1787, Federalist #6
15 Nov 1787, Federalist #7
20 Nov 1787, Federalist #8
21 Nov 1787, Federalist #9
23 Nov 1787, Federalist #10
24 Nov 1787, Federalist #11
27 Nov 1787, Federalist #12
27 Nov 1787, Cato #5
28 Nov 1787, Federalist #13
29 Nov 1787, Brutus #4
30 Nov 1787, Federalist #14
1 Dec 1787, Federalist #15
4 Dec 1787, Federalist #16
5 Dec 1787, Federalist #17
The lesson is that there was nothing to prevent the states from allying themselves with foreign powers.
For instance, the Northeastern mercantile states could join in treaty with Great Britain.
The southern agricultural states by necessity would have to counter such a move, perhaps with France or Spain.
Adios to the American confederacy.
A BTT for the afternoon crowd. This one carries an additional lesson over and above the correct distribution of powers within a political body, and it’s that the best theoretical construction in the world won’t help you if a thug with a very large army comes along. First the Persians, then the Phil & Alex Show, and then right after them came the Romans. Then the Arabs, and then the Turks. Tough territory.
The possibilities are endless but I very much doubt that today there would be a country stretching from the Atlantic to the Pacific and down to the Gulf of Mexico called the United States.
...or if the United States had successfully broken up in 1861, with respect to internecine warfare and the intervention of foreign powers? Use your imagination.
Again the possibilities are endless but I suspect that in this case the differences between the two factions would have overcome over time and that the country would have been reunited by the dawn of the twentieth century. Many excellent books have been written in which this subject is explored. The authors of those made guesses just as good as any I might make here.
Isn't it ironic that the current President, instead of praising those advances, decries them as being "distractions"?
For decades, the Progressives systematically and surreptitiously removed (censored) the ideas and principles of liberty from America's textbooks and from the "public square," replacing them with their own counterfeit ideas of "democracy" and utopian schemes.
In recent decades, to read the documents, speeches and writings explaining the ideas essential to preserving liberty, one had to go to remote and dusty stacks hidden away in large libraries.
Just when the Far Left thought it had snuffed out the light of liberty by hiding the Founders' ideas from schoolchildren and the general population, a miracle called the Internet arrived! Lo, and behold, a burst of light appeared in homes and offices all across the nation! With the click of a mouse, the clear and unmistakable message of 1776 and 1787, as well as all the other words of freedom generated by that miraculous period in human history, are available to the so-called "common man."
That scares the daylights out of the so-"Progressive" political elite of the world and America! They must not have their power-hungry goals for domination of ordinary citizens thwarted by such "distractions" as Ipods, Ipads, Laptops, and other such freedom-friendly tools.
One must conclude that if, as the Founders believed, Divine Providence was instrumental in the happenings in America in 1776 and 1787--events which led to the greatest burst of freedom, opportunity and progress in the history of civilization--then, surely, Divine Providence may have inspired those whose technology has enabled current generations to rediscover the ideas of liberty just as they were about to be censored from public view.
That may be why the current spokesman/leader of the "regressives" (also known as "Progressives") and his surrogates, must minimize, demonize, and otherwise belittle, the use of such technology to animate a new generation for liberty, because the ideas of the Left are bankrupt. They have failed in every century and in every nation where they have been tried.
Just found these threads - thanks so much for posting. Now my only hope is that the weather stays rainy so I don’t feel guilty about reading them all:)