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Employees stage statewide protest of furlough plan
Buffalo News ^ | May 10, 2010, 2:10 pm | Tom Precious and Robert J. McCarthy

Posted on 05/10/2010 12:26:16 PM PDT by kingu

State workers held noontime rallies around the state to protest a plan by Gov. David A. Paterson, expected to pass the State Legislature later this evening, to furlough 100,000 government workers one day a week beginning May 17.

"We deserve what we have and we're not going to give any of it back," Mary Sullivan, executive vice president of the Civil Service Employees Association, told a couple thousand state workers who turned out in a park next to the state Capitol.

Chanting "No furloughs!", about 250 angry union workers gathered at noon outside Ellicott Square — Western New York headquarters for many state agencies. They heard leaders from CSEA and Public Employees Federation urge them through bullhorns to resist Paterson's furlough plans, receiving sympathetic horn blasts from fire trucks and Metro Rail trains passing by.

"We didn't create this mess; Wall Street did," chanted Courtney Brunelle, political coordinator for CSEA. "We do our job; you do yours."

(Excerpt) Read more at buffalonews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: democrats; furlough; socialism; thepartysover; turnoutthelights; unions
We deserve what we have and we're not going to give any of it back

If there's any question that many government employees need to be fired, and fired now, that should answer it. It is not a job, it is an extended entitlement program.

1 posted on 05/10/2010 12:26:16 PM PDT by kingu
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To: kingu

I agree....no furloughs...downsize....teachers first...


2 posted on 05/10/2010 12:29:11 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: kingu

Exactly.

Forget the furloughs, lay them off.

A furlough is only a temporary fix. The fix needs to be long term. It is time to start now, not later after even more economic damage is done.


3 posted on 05/10/2010 12:31:59 PM PDT by DB
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To: kingu

1950 - angry mobs venting their wrath on a black man = KKK

2010 - angry mobs venting their wrath on a black man = AFSCME and NEA


4 posted on 05/10/2010 12:32:06 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sacajaweau

No.

Social services first.


5 posted on 05/10/2010 12:32:47 PM PDT by DB
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To: kingu
""We deserve what we have and we're not going to give any of it back," "

Now there's an argument that's going to go over big...

I am hoping there is a COUNTER protest of millions of state taxpayers telling them to STFU

6 posted on 05/10/2010 12:35:12 PM PDT by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: kingu

Greece in the Empire State. LOL! NYC has more school administrators then Europe has teachers (??). I read some isane statistic like this once.


7 posted on 05/10/2010 12:38:35 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain/Graham = La Raza's Senators & Estefan-Rubio)
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To: kingu

Wall St?? Wall St did NOT make the money going out more than the money going in.

These people have gone from being civil workers to being extortionists demanding others money.

The Civil War seemed to have less anger and divide than we have right now.


8 posted on 05/10/2010 12:39:46 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: kingu

Remember PATCO, all of you NY union thugs. Remember PATCO.


9 posted on 05/10/2010 12:46:21 PM PDT by JPG (Mr. Gore, we have a warrant for your arrest...put your hands behind your back.)
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To: kingu

Greece, NY


10 posted on 05/10/2010 12:46:35 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: JPG

Does NY have a Reagan that we haven’t heard of?


11 posted on 05/10/2010 12:53:46 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: kingu

We deserve what we have and we’re not going to give any of it back,” Mary Sullivan, executive vice president of the Civil Service Employees Association,


You and your ilk should just keep running your mouth, Lady. In due time you will get exactly what you deserve.


12 posted on 05/10/2010 12:54:58 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: kingu
Coming soon to a state/city near you.............


13 posted on 05/10/2010 1:00:03 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: kingu

When I worked for the government in DC in the early 80’s most people made a decent living. The pay was about equal or less than equal of what you would make in the private sector but, the benefits were better. Now government workers make a lot more money and benefits then the private sector, it’s sickening. One of my relatives works in travel for the government. She’s been there for 33 years and worked her way up. She has worked hard but, her 90+k a year salary is ridicules. When she retires at 55 she can get 80% of that. It’s just to much.


14 posted on 05/10/2010 1:05:04 PM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: kingu

The joke is that New York’s CSEA and PEF unions are made up of office workers, teachers, social workers, etc. They work Monday through Friday and have weekends off, plus three day weekends when holidays roll around. The State however, would never be able to properly furlough their uniformed staff, ie., correction officers, state police, etc., because for the most part, these posts are covered 24/7, and have to have a body in them because of the security nature of the jobs. If an absence occurs, and there isn’t an extra body available on the shift to cover the vacancy, then overtime usually has to be hired to fill the slot.


15 posted on 05/10/2010 1:05:10 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: kingu

My company cut our pay 10% last year. A boatload of companies did. Why should government workers be exempt?


16 posted on 05/10/2010 1:06:22 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Sacajaweau

May I suggest a 15% cut across the board reduction of personnel for all state departments. That should do the job, temporarily...


17 posted on 05/10/2010 1:09:53 PM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: kingu

Why does this remind me of gyros and mousaka?


18 posted on 05/10/2010 1:18:00 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Is it okay to wear an American flag t-shirt in America on Jamhuri (Kenyan Independence) Day?)
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To: kingu

We deserve what we have and we’re not going to give any of it back
If there’s any question that many government employees need to be fired, and fired now, that should answer it. It is not a job, it is an extended entitlement program.””

Greece redux:

Coming to cities in the USA.


19 posted on 05/10/2010 1:23:52 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: kingu

>>We deserve what we have and we’re not going to give any of it back<<

Those folks should be praying they don’t get what they deserve...


20 posted on 05/10/2010 1:57:52 PM PDT by LadyBuck (In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher')
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To: kingu

Site below gives details of public employee pay for state, county and city workers in New York:

http://www.seethroughny.net/Payrolls/StatePayroll/tabid/69/Default.aspx?BRANCHID=1


21 posted on 05/10/2010 2:00:52 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: MsLady

“When she retires at 55 she can get 80% of that. It’s just to much.”

Don’t worry, she won’t get it. She’ll probably be on your doorstep looking for a handout.


22 posted on 05/10/2010 3:57:38 PM PDT by dljordan (Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his office. ")
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To: ridesthemiles

“Greece redux:”

Well, the Goblins aren’t going to come up my street breaking windows and burning buildings.


23 posted on 05/10/2010 3:59:37 PM PDT by dljordan (Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his office. ")
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To: dljordan

LOL...well she’ll have to travel 1200 miles and come to a place that usually gets over 250” or more of snow a year. She hates the cold and snow.


24 posted on 05/10/2010 4:14:45 PM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: kingu
Paul Doering, a maintenance worker with the Department of Transportation, bristled at what he called the "perception" of state workers as overpaid with generous benefits.

"We barely make minimum wage," he said.

I find that VERY, Very, hard to believe. Anybody know what the pay scale is ?

25 posted on 05/10/2010 4:18:47 PM PDT by Popman (Balsa wood: Obama Presidential timber)
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To: Popman

Interesting. According to the link in reply #21, Paul M. Doering is a highway maintenance worker 1 (lowest level, I think) in DOT district 5 and he was paid $36,269 last year. In 2008 he was paid $35,682. Add in benefits and he did OK.

We are talking about Western NY here folks. The land of low paying jobs, cheap real estate and high unemployment. You can easily afford a house and a couple kids on 36 grand a year.


26 posted on 05/10/2010 5:12:41 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: kingu
"It is not a job, it is an extended entitlement program"

This is what I have been waiting for, I knew sooner or later the pain felt by the private sector would reach the public sector and when it did things might get ugly. Socialist government all over the US and EU is failing. The folks that benefit from socialist government (public workers) are not going to be very happy. I oppose all these bailouts but I do wonder if DC/EU will do a Greek type bailout of failed government in the USA and if not why not? Are Greeks more deserving then New Yorkers? Bailout Wall Street billionaires while allowing millions of workers to go broke is a very good way to really piss just about everyone off.

27 posted on 05/10/2010 5:48:21 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: kingu
"We didn't create this mess; Wall Street did,"

Well, I see that not too many Freepers are going to defend Wall Street, but the the bulk of the blame should be on the national government.

28 posted on 05/10/2010 5:52:26 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Nik Naym

Benefits:

13 days of vacation per year, may be rolled over.
5 personal days per year
12 paid holidays per year
13 sick days per year (That’s right, 42 WORK days that you can be gone, out of the typical calendar year of 264. Nearly 16% of the time, you can be gone.)

Full health care, 90% paid by the state for individual, or 75% for family, full vision (covers family, even if not covered by health care), full dental, again, full family covered even if not in health care.

Retirement: Employee only contributes 3% of salary for the first ten years, no further contribution needed.

So, yeah, just a few benefits. And if he worked 40 hours a week, his hourly wages were about $17 an hour, about double minimum wage.


29 posted on 05/10/2010 5:57:23 PM PDT by kingu (Favorite Sticker: Lost hope, and Obama took my change.)
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To: Moonman62
Well, I see that not too many Freepers are going to defend Wall Street, but the the bulk of the blame should be on the national government.

Since Wall Street pays so much in fees and taxes to the State of New York, and the federal government which then returns some of the money to New York, blaming Wall Street is kinda moronic. I'd love it if Wall Street suddenly upped and moved to Texas, and took all that money with it... Then they can blame Wall Street for their woes.

30 posted on 05/10/2010 6:04:50 PM PDT by kingu (Favorite Sticker: Lost hope, and Obama took my change.)
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To: kingu
"We deserve what we have and we're not going to give any of it back,"

You don't have your next pay check yet. LOL!

No need to give any back, it'll just be 20% smaller. No need for you to give or do anything.

31 posted on 05/10/2010 6:06:56 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: kingu


“We didn’t create this mess; Wall Street did,” chanted Courtney Brunelle,
political coordinator for CSEA. “We do our job; you do yours.”

Some job, unionista!!!


32 posted on 05/10/2010 6:17:15 PM PDT by VOA
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