Skip to comments.Charlie Baker, GOP candidate for Gov(MA), rattles off his liberal bona fides (video)
Posted on 05/10/2010 12:54:04 PM PDT by nhwingut
Charlie Baker gets very upset when asked if he's a "social conservative."
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This is Romney and Brown’s guy... Enough said.
And let's not forget he was Mitt's right hand in formulating RomneyCare which was the blueprint for ObamaCare.
Not only should this scumbag be defeated, he needs to come in third place behind Cahill and Patrick.
Join “DUMP TISEI”.
Haley Barbour and his Republican Governors’ Association has gone all-in for Charlie Baker too.
If the GOP was smart (yeah right) they should back Cahill/Loscocco like they did Lieberman in CT.
Cahill or bust for me. I'd rather Deval again than Baker - he sucks and his running mate most definitely sucks.
Cahill was on talk radio a few months ago saying how the only difference between himself and the R candidates was that “being a former Democrat I am more aligned with them and will get along better with them than the Rs”
he is an opportunist that tested the waters to run in the Dem primary but since all of the Dem party officials nationally and in the state promised to destroy him so he went Indie. Not that Baker is a prize mind you i just dont buy the whole Cahill is the real conservative out there
clearly he is not
From what I have heard Cahill say - I like him better, too. although, I do not put much into what any politician says.
Plus, those VERY negative ads that the Republicans put out are really bad and offensive and seem to go after Cahill only and completely ignores what Baker STANDS FOR (if he stands for anything).
Is Loscocco the former State Rep? If it’s the same guy I’m thinking of, I will definitely vote Cahill/Loscocco.
>his running mate most definitely sucks.
Well, what would the GOP be without a vice gubernatorial candidate who sponsored a gender neutral bathroom bill for our esteemed state. I tell ya....
I do not hear Baker talking about anything.
As of now, he’s got money and he’s bombarding us with anti Cahill ads.....hope they work because I barely knew who Cahill was until Baker began dissing him!
KEmom - yes, Loscocco is the former State Rep.
We don't have much of a choice here in MA, and one of these clowns is going to win. Again, it's a choice of the lesser evil.
Cahill is a fraud too. He’s got a new web ad out basically attacking the yahoos in the south, Republicans and, of course, Bush.
Screw him. Once a Dem always a Dem.
And I’m not sure why Baker is trying to be all liberal in a year that is pro conservative. He makes Scott Brown look like a right-wing radical.
It may be that Mass is just a lost cause.
“Charlie Baker, GOP candidate for Gov(MA), rattles off his liberal bona fides (video)”
Mitt Romney part deaux.
Baker should be attacking Patrick, not just Cahill. You're right, all he's doing is raising Cahill’s profile and looking like a clown in the process.
Baker needs to stick to Building 19. Tisei can troll the men's restrooms.
Like I posted before, IF the GOP/RNC had a brain, they'd back Cahill the same way they backed Lieberman in CT back in 2006.
Exactly. Sure Cahill may be herpes. But Baker is AIDS. (And Deval is Elena Kagan with AIDS).
Impy, if the two choices were Baker or Deval, at this point, I vote for Deval.
Baker sucks and is unacceptable.
“It may be that Mass is just a lost cause.”
thats pretty much it in a nutshell
I agree with the lesser evil aspect i used to live in MA so i keep tabs on the politics down there but do consider this.
1. i think Baker would be a better executive than Deval or Cahill which has nothing to do with ideology.
2. in a redistricting year an R Governor (RINO or otherwise) would be far better than a former Dem Indie who would probably try to buy support for buddies by passing anything the Dem legislature throws on his desk. This year the state GOP MAY be able to get enough seats in the legislature to keep a Veto from being overridden. its a long shot but with an R Governor you at least have a chance of this scenario. with a former Dem turned Indie and a Dem you have ZERO chance of that happening
3. Cahill is an opportunist nothing more and i really was appalled before this whole Tea Party train took off how he basically kept saying he was still basically a Dem just couldnt stand Deval’s incompetence. Once he found a niche for himself by attaching himself to the tea party suddenly he is all about their “values” which i find highly dubious
But the overriding factor to me is Baker's involvement in RomneyCare which was a blueprint for ObamaCare. Baker cannot be rewarded for this. In fact, Baker getting defeated is another nail in Mitt's political coffin - a true ‘two-for-one’ deal.
Add in Baker's uber-liberalism and at least in this voter's opinion, he is not acceptable as a gubernatorial candidate or local dog catcher.
there are absolutely no good choices there and although we disagree who the least “evil” would be i think we understand where the other is coming from
Aren't those ads awful??!! I can't imagine they're doing Baker much good -- the woman sounds like your typical office gossip who "knows" everything about everyone -- and never lets the facts ruin a juicy bit! They guy just sounds like a gullible boob. They may actually make Deval sound good!
I'm not that crazy about Cahill -- I just think he's the least repellent one running.
Baker is such a blob -- no personality whatsoever. And apparently not too quick on the uptake. I've heard him on Howie Carr -- Howie "feeds" him lines and Baker just doesn't get it. I think (and hope) Howie's losing his inititial leaning toward Baker.
There aren’t enough Republicans in the legislature to make electing a GOP Governor feasible. The GOP is outnumbered 10-90%, and they would have to make staggering gains (which won’t happen) to reach the point where a GOP Governor would have enough members to sustain his veto. A GOP Governor will have ZERO impact on redistricting and much of anything else, except to continue to keep the party in the boneyard. Cahill is the only credible candidate.
respectfully i disagree
the GOP made significant gains last “wave” election in the legislature in mA (I want to say it was 1994 but maybe not) people were pissed and held a significant number of seats. of course the Weld Admin pissed it all away and it wasnt during a redistricting year but the atmosphere is definitely there for something similar to happen this year IF the opposition was unified against Deval. Again with Baker you have a chance to have a say in the redistricting with Cahill you have none
Cahill is nothing but an opportunist he was touting that he was a Dem with Dem values as an Indie until it became unpopular. now he is attempting to hitch his wagon to the Tea Party
i heard him on the radio months ago saying that he was closer to the Dems he just didnt like Devals leadership
Cahill is just another Dem with an inflated sense of himself who wants the corner office
Right! The MA GOP should make some gains this fall, but in a 90-10 scenario, getting close to even ain’t gonna happen, not in 1 election cycle.
Too many people vote for a living (public employees) in this state to enable a tidal wave of change to occur IMO.
For sure! I’m a Republican, but if you gave me the choice between Zell Miller or Mitt Romney for president, I’d vote for Miller. There are times when the Dem is a better candidate or a better person than the Pub (although not very often).
RomneyCare cannot be rewarded. Baker embodies RomneyCare, hell, he helped write the frigging thing.
The last wave election was in 1990. The GOP held enough seats to sustain a veto (at least in the Senate). That was a far different era, and 16 years of RINO misrule shriveled the presence down to 10%. It is quite literally logistically impossible for the MA GOP to make any sort of substantive gains for reasons I have addressed here many times. The leadership is execrable, we don’t have the number of candidates (most of the seats go uncontested), and there’s no money and no apparatus that can kick in to help. The party still was strong enough in the early ‘90s as to be competitive, but a lot of that has simply disappeared since.
A real test is going to come on Saturday when the special election for Sen. Brown’s State Senate vacancy occurs. If it goes Democrat, I can guarantee the gains made in November will be paltry. If we hold it, we might have a shot to make modest gains, but there will not be the kind of sweeping gains you’re hoping for. We would have to more than TRIPLE the number of members we currently have just to get to upholding a veto. That simply can’t happen.
If we got to 1/3rd of the legislature, you’d have a better argument to elect a Republican, but not now. Baker isn’t the right person, he’s just another in a long line of execrable RINO liberals. At least with Cahill, if he proves to be a fiscal Conservative, it will be a positive, and best of all, he will NOT harm the desultory GOP super-minority. Baker has the capacity and will to flatline what’s left of the MA GOP and tarnish Scott Brown’s reelection in 2012. Better Cahill for potential results or to keep the grossly incompetent Patrick instead.
Well stated DJ, as usual!!!
One of the few votes I regret making was Weld in 1990. I wanted to vote for John Silber, but voted ‘R’ (first election I ever voted in).
Then I skipped the governor election part of the ballot until 2002 - yep Mittens.
But again, I’m sorry. Mea culpa.
Believe me, I wish Silber had won, too. Dukakis getting a 4th term could not have inflicted the kind of external and internal damage to the MA GOP that Weld did. I’ve maintained a belief for a long time that Weld was a Democrat agent, and he’s done nothing to dissuade me of that notion.
“Ive maintained a belief for a long time that Weld was a Democrat agent”
His actions scream that he is a Rat. Plus, Weld’s just evil, as we’ve discussed before (Whitey Bulger case).
again i dont live in the state and you probably have a better overall picture than i do i am just stating why i would prefer one over the other.
i agree with you about Brown’s seat if it stays R than there is a possibility of significant gains
i wouldnt completely rule out the possibility of grabbing that many legislative seats though stranger things have happened
heck i never thought i would see another R Senator coming from MA in my lifetime that is for sure (RINO or otherwise)
I voted for the piece of crap in 2008 primary for President. I didn’t like him but I didn’t learn just how crappy he was until afterwards. I’d like that one back.
Redistricting is extremely important, most voters know nothing about it. You can add it to a broader category of favorable partisan things Baker would do that Cahill would not. That’s a point in Baker’s favor but it appears to be the only point in Baker’s favor.
Given that it’s unlikely GOP will get enough seats it’s not enough in my view to favor DIABLO Baker.
Yes some people just dont get redistricting which is why it is extremely important that Rs make significant gains in state houses all over the place.
again i understand the reluctance of Baker but if i were voting in MA i would hold my nose and vote for him
Cahill is way too opportunistic and a veritable phony
Redistricting is so important and yes, most voters know ZERO about it. It would be about the only positive Baker would bring to the table.
In this state, if Baker was a RINO, he might MIGHT be tolerable. But he's such a...fartmouth up to his eyes in RomneyCare that he cannot be supported.
PORK Kagan? I lost my appetite too. My friend asked me this question: “Gun to your head and you have to pick either Barney Frank or Kagan, which one?”
I answered: “Get a mop and a bucket.”
Yeah I was gonna pick between the 3 front-runners. I was swayed by Romney’s bought and paid for support from prominent conservative sources and fear of a McLame victory. If anyone was gonna beat McCain in Illinois it was Myth. I had some cognitive dissonance cause I knew about Romneycare but I didn’t learn of the totality of his horrible record until later when his lying supporters flooded FR in the run up to get McCain to pick him as VP.
I’d have casted a pointless vote for Thompson if I could do it again. McCain/Romney/Huck was like choosing between poisons.
I didn’t even get to cast a primary vote. Thompson withdrew before he made it to TN, and as I said quite loudly at the time, not a one of the remaining candidates were either viable, accomplished, qualified or honest about their “Conservative” stances. I was right.
“Choosing between poisons” - well put.
“Not a one of the remaining candidates were either viable...” - sadly right.
A potted plant would have made a better candidate.
RE: Needham. The property tax bills with the new rates have come out over the last month. People here are sh*tting their pants over the increases. Even in Needham, the ‘beautiful’ people are saying “enough”. The switch was a result of that IMO.
People were pissed at me at the time as I’d go in every thread and say “don’t vote for this RINO phony.” They’d ask, “well, who should we vote for ?” I said “None of the above.” I said we should’ve forced a showdown at the GOP Convention to draft candidates separate and apart from who was running. I was mightily impressed by ex-OK Gov. Frank Keating, who could’ve obliterated Zero in a debate (and Keating was the FBI agent who was on the case of his terrorist mentor, William Ayres). He appeared on a Fox program and in a clear and concise soundbyte, he outlined why Zero could not be trusted with the Presidency. I was watching it with my father and I blurted out, “WHY isn’t THAT man our nominee ?”
It’s too bad Fred Thompson didn’t care to try when he ‘ran’. He would have also debated the tar out of Soetoro. What could have been...
Frank Keating. Maybe he’s worth a look for 2012 then?
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