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Student Group Disbanded After Blacks-Only Field Trip [black-students-only group] [ Profiling ]
Fox News ^ | 5-10-10 | Jana Winter

Posted on 05/10/2010 6:38:06 PM PDT by NoLibZone

The Michigan school district investigating whether an elementary school field trip that excluded white students was illegal has disbanded the black-students-only academic support group that participated in the outing two weeks ago.

“We have essentially put it on hold while we wait for the final determination on the investigation into possible violation of the State's Proposal 2,” Ann Arbor School District spokeswoman Liz Margolis told FoxNews.com.

Thirty members of the Dicken Elementary School’s AA Lunch Bunch, a support group designed to bridge the gap in test scores between white and black students, were taken on a field trip two weeks ago to meet Alec Gallimore, an African-American rocket scientist who is an aerospace engineering professor and propulsion lab director at the University of Michigan.

“It is likely this lunch program will be reworked to serve more students who are not testing at proficient or above on the state assessment tests,” said Margolis, who last week told FoxNews.com that the principal's motives were not in question.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: blackstudents; education; profiling; publicschools; racists; segregation

1 posted on 05/10/2010 6:38:07 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

This is backwards.

The black-only group is okay, freedom of association and all that. Getting school resources and passes for black-only field trips, that has to stop.


2 posted on 05/10/2010 6:39:34 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: NoLibZone

...the ONLY reason they shut it down was because they were exposed to be a racist group.


3 posted on 05/10/2010 6:40:59 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: NoLibZone

“Thirty members of the Dicken Elementary School’s AA Lunch Bunch, a support group designed to bridge the gap in test scores between white and black students...”

The best bridge for that gap? A father in the house.


4 posted on 05/10/2010 6:41:03 PM PDT by jessduntno (Kagan...Filly-bust-her. Bork her. Bork her hard. She needs it.)
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To: jessduntno
The best bridge for that gap? A father in the house.

Beg to differ. For most of the kids growing up without a father in the house, their bio baby daddy is an irresponsible and probably brutal thug. I fail to see how having HIM around is going to help anything.

Having a responsible middle-class values father in the house, I absolutely agree. But a random biological father? Not so much.

5 posted on 05/10/2010 6:47:06 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: NoLibZone

Pacific educational group. Remember to watch for their involvement with other schools.

http://www.pacificeducationalgroup.com/


6 posted on 05/10/2010 6:47:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: jessduntno

A good “bridge” for that “gap”. Hard work and study. And “acting white”. Or maybe “Asian”.


7 posted on 05/10/2010 6:50:31 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Beg to differ.”

Don’t mention it. I was not thinking hope for a crack head or child molester, or some random biological man. My statement was...a father. With all that should mean, obviously.


8 posted on 05/10/2010 6:51:31 PM PDT by jessduntno (Kagan...Filly-bust-her. Bork her. Bork her hard. She needs it.)
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To: STONEWALLS

That’s right. They were exposed. It’s amazing what happens when one removes the rock from over the snake, and exposes it. This sort of exposure needs to be followed up, and reexposed multiple times. Rub their noses in it until they bleed.


9 posted on 05/10/2010 6:53:43 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (The Left draws criminals as excrement draws flies. The Left IS a criminal organization.)
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To: garyhope

A good “bridge” for that “gap”. Hard work and study. And “acting white”. Or maybe “Asian”.

Not too popular a stance to take, but all things being equal kids from heterosexual, traditional families do better. Period.


10 posted on 05/10/2010 6:54:12 PM PDT by jessduntno (Kagan...Filly-bust-her. Bork her. Bork her hard. She needs it.)
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To: NoLibZone

Schools should balance the scores of white and black students the ACORN way - by cheating. Oh, wait. They already do that for college admissions. My bad.


11 posted on 05/10/2010 6:54:58 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: jessduntno

I agree with you. Just trying to clarify a common misperception that the bio-dad taking off is the main problem.

The real problem is that these children cannot have a father in the sense we both mean, unless in theory their mother marries such a man. And a guy like this isn’t likely to marry a woman who gets pregnant, possibly repeatedly, by irresponsible dudes.


12 posted on 05/10/2010 6:55:16 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

“I agree with you. Just trying to clarify a common misperception that the bio-dad taking off is the main problem.”

Yeah, the Dems have seen to it they are back on the plantation, voting for their masters 95%.


13 posted on 05/10/2010 6:56:35 PM PDT by jessduntno (Kagan...Filly-bust-her. Bork her. Bork her hard. She needs it.)
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To: GeronL

The group osn’t really going away. They paid the pacific educational group a quarter of a million dollars to come up with this crap.

I suspect they’re just going to be more carefull and do this kind of thing after hours but still on the taxpayer dime.

http://www.annarbor.com/news/ann-arbor-school-district-investigating-legality-and-principals-actions-in-black-only-field-trip/


14 posted on 05/10/2010 6:56:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

Bridge the test gap, eh? Are the children not in the same classes exposed to the same teachers, and the same lessons?

There are only 2 reasons this can happen.

1) The African American kids are not as smart as the others.

2) The culture at home does not encourage excellence.

I believe it is #2, and all efforts to close the gap should be in that direction.

I don’t understand the need for ever increasing amount of spending on education. The schools in the 40’s and 50’s spent pennies on the dollar compared to today, and the product of those schools (that used textbooks written in the 40’s, and 50’s), put people on the moon, and created the entire technological revolution of the world.


15 posted on 05/10/2010 6:59:01 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: jessduntno

In that sense, conditions were better on the original plantation.

Most slave men tried their best to establish stable families, despite the challenges.

When they were freed, many spent years searching for their sold-away wives and children. Today their descendants impregnate women and abandon their children without batting an eye. Very sad.


16 posted on 05/10/2010 6:59:23 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: NoLibZone

The black kids were getting a pizza party too on the field trip. This creates gossip and rumors with all the children. If the principal had done this with more cool there would have been no blow-up


17 posted on 05/10/2010 7:02:40 PM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: NoLibZone
The method being used to “bridge the gap” is the age old marxist goal of dumbing down the more intelligent to the lowest common denominator.

Sounds like an excellent plan if you are a commie as it brings the average intelligence of citizens down towards a point where they don't question their masters.

18 posted on 05/10/2010 7:03:41 PM PDT by Pox
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To: cripplecreek
District administrators said the intent of the program was to work in a mentoring relationship with black students to help boost their achievement. They said it was part of the district’s work to combat the achievement gap, which in Ann Arbor is commonly referred to in terms of the difference in test scores, grade-point average, discipline and graduation rates between white and black students.

Much of that work is being led by a consultant, Glenn Singleton, and his Pacific Educational Group. The district has been employing the company since the 2004-05 school year and has paid it $341,000 so far, Roberts said.

Roberts said the district is making progress in closing the gap, pointing to multiple areas in the latest Michigan Educational Assessment Program data, where achievement for black students is up. That includes eighth-grade math scores, where the percentage of black students scoring proficient has climbed 23 percentage points since the 2005-06 school year.

Much of the work PEG is doing centers on “things we can control in the school,” Roberts said. That includes making sure black and Latino students see artwork in classrooms and read literature that reflects their culture. PEG is also helping district staff discuss race and cultural issues and figure out how to effectively teach students of different cultural backgrounds.

19 posted on 05/10/2010 7:08:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: jessduntno

There’s a lot to be said for stability, security, regularity, home life, 2 parents, dinner together and a “boring” predictability.

There will be enough of the other later.


20 posted on 05/10/2010 7:11:07 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: garyhope

“There’s a lot to be said for stability, security, regularity, home life, 2 parents, dinner together and a “boring” predictability.”

My old man was never home when I was a kid...he was regular Navy...but I had a lot of family around and focused on school, sports and community. When he was around, he the Master Chief, but he was my dad, too. He didn’t try to be my friend. He tried to be my Dad. I think a lot of these kids could use a little support, but the way the schools and the Dems keep telling them they are screwed, they give up. What’s that phrase? The soft bigotry of low expectaions? Captures it perfectly.


21 posted on 05/10/2010 7:15:51 PM PDT by jessduntno (Kagan...Filly-bust-her. Bork her. Bork her hard. She needs it.)
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To: GeronL

Looks like they’re in Arlington Va as well.

http://www.openmarket.org/2007/12/12/glenn-singletons-racism-and-the-arlington-public-schools/


22 posted on 05/10/2010 7:16:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek; NoLibZone; GeronL; Sherman Logan; jessduntno; OrangeHoof; rockinqsranch; ...

Cripplecreek, I am thinking from your post that may have heard this interview by Frank Beckmann about the Pacific Educational Group. I encourage everyone to listen to this short interview from Frank’s program last week on WJR-Detroit. These people are racist, if you ask me, and perpetuating racism in subsequent generations. http://www.wjr.com/Article.asp?id=1793132&spid=34613


23 posted on 05/10/2010 7:18:00 PM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: GeronL

Agree completely.


24 posted on 05/10/2010 7:19:10 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: dsrtsage

You are correct, especially in your first and last paragraphs.

I was in public school from ‘48-’60. Most kids graduated on time. Pennies on the dollar for education, compared to what is happening today. ....Big difference: the teachers did NOT belong to unions back then!!! Unions are destroying this country and every vocation or industry where they gain a foothold. They provide protection for their unproductive members and constantly demand higher wages and more benefits for them. Teachers no longer have an incentive to produce well educated kids (that’s a generality on my part).


25 posted on 05/10/2010 7:24:01 PM PDT by octex
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To: octex

Tenure needs to go!


26 posted on 05/10/2010 7:43:22 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: stayathomemom

That CA school where the 5 boys were sent home for wearing USA flag shirts; They have a MeCha Club. A racist group that calls for the overthrow of the US and establishment of a new Aztlan nation in the southwest.


27 posted on 05/10/2010 7:45:41 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: NoLibZone
"Thirty members of the Dicken Elementary School’s AA Lunch Bunch, a support group designed to bridge the gap in test scores between white and black students..."

Give 'em a break: it wasn't intended to be a "blacks-only group" - it just turned out that way...

28 posted on 05/10/2010 7:54:11 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: GeronL
The black-only group is okay, freedom of association and all that.

Should be okay but it isn't, unless you can imagine a whites only group.

29 posted on 05/10/2010 8:53:25 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (No Romney,No Mark Kirk (Illinois), not now, not ever!)
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To: Graybeard58

The Math Club? lol


30 posted on 05/10/2010 8:57:09 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: dsrtsage
The culture at home does not encourage excellence.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.

As a substitute in several Metro Detroit districts, I would agree. Also, the culture at home often does not encourage reading even the most mundane things like newspapers or magazines.

But, that's okay. It's so much eaiser to be a Democrat if you haven't read widely (or wisely)
/rant

31 posted on 05/11/2010 3:18:10 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters, now.)
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To: stayathomemom

Its easy to blame the family situation and it does play a part but people need to recognize that there is a group that is behind this sort of thing.

Its kind of pointless to consider changing the home situation of these kids until groups like PEG are dealt with.


32 posted on 05/11/2010 4:36:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: NoLibZone

“Thirty members of the Dicken Elementary School’s AA Lunch Bunch, a support group designed to bridge the gap in test scores between white and black students...”

Hold the phone a minute! Years ago black students were forcibly bussed from their neighborhood all black schools in my town to predominately white neighborhood schools several miles away. This was done in the name of integration and higher achievement. Now black students need their own support group in an integrated school to get better grades?

This field trip is just another example of the new segregation in and direction of this country. Obama, SEIU, Acorn, NBPP, et al, are black nationalists pure and simple. Equal opportunity is not what they’re after any more than Stormfront.


33 posted on 05/11/2010 4:56:50 AM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot
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To: Sherman Logan

The mothers are just as bad, Sherman. It is she who allows herself to be impregnated by multiple irresponsible dudes.

More food stamps, welfare, section 8, EITC and if she’s really lucky, an ADHD kid or two (who simply hasn’t been disciplined at all in its life) who qualifies for SSI!!!

And of course, because she can’t get to work with so many kids, she’ll figure out what she needs to do to qualify for a disability check too.

That’s a nice living!

And it’s the social welfare state promulgated by Democrats that dissuades the “poor” from forming intact biological families, BTW.


34 posted on 05/11/2010 5:05:19 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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To: cripplecreek
Its kind of pointless to consider changing the home situation of these kids until groups like PEG are dealt with.

Exactly! And to think AAPS paid this group hundreds of thousands of dollars to advise the administrators. This principal appears to be a strong advocate of their racist thinking. It sounds as though they are advising school systems across the nation.

35 posted on 05/11/2010 5:44:21 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: dsrtsage
(that used textbooks written in the 40’s, and 50’s),

That used used textbooks... You'd write your name in the book under the student's name that used it the year before which was under the name of the student that used it the year before that and on and on....

36 posted on 05/11/2010 5:56:39 AM PDT by houeto (Get drinking water from your ditch - http://www.junglebucket.com/Jungle-Bucket-1.htm)
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To: GatorGirl

I agree 100%.

I was responding to the common statement that the only thing missing from these unfortunate children’s lives is the continuous presence in the home of their biological father.

A brutal, lazy and/or criminal father’s presence is little if any improvement over his absence.

Since the mothers of these children very seldom abandon them, they are obviously morally superior to the “fathers,” but if they had their act together they wouldn’t be having kids out of wedlock anyway.


37 posted on 05/11/2010 6:10:57 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: NoLibZone

Question: Every February-and all throughout the year lately, we hear of how much blacks have done for America-you know: “Jehosephat Watkins invented the club sandwich in 1867”, and “Boqualvis Thompson invented the electric turd polisher in 1880”, blah blah blah.

It’s always some obscure thing that happened long,long ago.
(fertile ground for bull$hit, in other words) and indeed, almost all of these claims have been proven to be total BS or at least wildly exaggerated-even much of the George Washington Carver, Charles Drew type stuff has been proven to be feel-good myth.

But that’s not what we hear every year-we hear all the hoo-ha about these “unsung heroes” from “back in the day”

So since Detroit’s now an all black paradise, where are all the great black scholars and inventors now? the black Henry Ford-the black Bill Gates?


38 posted on 05/11/2010 7:50:40 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland ("See what you made me do?" Major Malik Hasan)
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To: dennisw

Well, pizza is a black invention.....

/s


39 posted on 05/11/2010 7:52:02 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland ("See what you made me do?" Major Malik Hasan)
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To: dsrtsage

Great post.

I hate to say it-and I’m not trying to be sarcastic-but while your reason #2 is the main reason, I wonder if #1 doesn’t have at least some validity as far as a cause.


40 posted on 05/11/2010 7:56:17 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland ("See what you made me do?" Major Malik Hasan)
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