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Can Israel Survive Without America?
Pinochet

Posted on 05/12/2010 7:34:15 AM PDT by pinochet

The Obama Administration has pressured Israel not to build in Jerusalem, their own capital city. How would we feel, if we were told not to build in Washington DC? Israel has been forced to accept a 2 state solution in the West Bank, despite the fact that Israeli voters supported political parties which reject a Palestinian state on Israeli territory. America's support for Israel is a two-edged sword.

About a month ago, I received a book on Israeli history as a gift. It says that Israel was established in 1948, with official recognition from the UN and the US. But Israel was attacked by 5 Arab armies, soon after it declared Independence. Unbelievably, the UN imposed an arms embargo, which denied Israel the arms it needed to defend itself. But the Arabs received huge quantities of arms during the conflict. Israel fought its war of Independence, with one arm tied behind its back.

Instead of helping Israel, a nation that was created by a UN resolution, the world sat back, expecting Israel to be defeated, and the Jews to be exterminated. This was only 3 years after the Holocaust, when the crimes of the Nazis were still fresh in everyone's minds, which shows that nobody learnt anything from the Holocaust.

In their desperate efforts to defend their country, Israel lost 1 percent of their citizens, but were able to defend their independence. But the arms embargo weakened Israel and prevented it from uniting Jerusalem when the war ended in 1949.

In 1954, Gamal Abdel Nasser came to power in Egypt, and inaugurated the modern era of terrorism against Israel. He then nationalized the Suez Canal, which angered its British and French shareholders. In 1956, Britain, France and Israel formed an alliance, that was intended to remove Nasser from power. But the Eisenhower administration in the US intervened and saved Nasser. If Nasser had been taken out in 1956, Israel would not have needed to fight wars in 1967 and 1973.

When Israel defended itself in 1967, it was so loudly denounced by the world, that it afraid of taking tough measures that would assure its self-defense. This opened the way for the 1973 war, which killed 2,000 Israelis. In 1982, the Reagan administration prevented Ariel Sharon from taking out Yasser Arafat, during the Lebanon war. In fact, America saved Arafat's butt, by rescuing Arafat from Sharon in Beirut. This foreign interference helped to prolong the Lebanon war, and cost unneccessary Israeli lives.

If Israel was completely unleashed against its enemies, without being restrained by America, Israel can put the terrorists out of business. The Palestinian problem would have been solved a long time ago, if America had allowed Israel to transfer the Palestinians to Jordan, where they could have formed their own state if they had wanted to.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: america; history; israel; jerusalem
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To: Frantzie

BiBi is the kind of Hawk leader that Ronald Reagan was. God Bless Israel and BiBi.


41 posted on 05/12/2010 9:03:46 PM PDT by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world.)
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To: SirLurkedalot

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

THX THX.


42 posted on 05/12/2010 10:12:32 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: pinochet; Yehuda; null and void; Armageddon; sheik yerbouty

Obama is the profane wicked prince (president) of Israel whose day has come, Ez 21.30.


43 posted on 05/12/2010 10:43:44 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: pinochet
I've been meditation on this a while now and come to this conclusion:

As some people know that the NAME of a thing in older times would DEFINE the meaning & character of the person or object. Hence the name change that the Lord gave to Jacob (meaning: the deceiver) and changed to ISRAEL "He who struggled with man and God, and prevailed".

Also note how over the centuries that despite untold suffering & persecution they still remain but their oppressors can hardly be found!!

So to answer the question of the article, I would easily say "YES" howbeit the USA would lose the blessings attached to the effort to being their ally & friend in times of trouble.

The USA has just been around for a little more than 200 years vs 2000 years for the JEWS. We have helped them a lot and prospered for it but their ultimate protection & salvation is from the Almighty Himself.

44 posted on 05/13/2010 12:00:48 AM PDT by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: pinochet
Yes and they will out last America and all other countries. The Jews are God's chosen people.
45 posted on 05/13/2010 12:05:55 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: pinochet

Can America survive without Israel?

I think not.


46 posted on 05/13/2010 8:18:53 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: pinochet

Yes, but they are going to have to nuke a few neighbors to do it. Which is fine by me, btw.


47 posted on 05/13/2010 8:21:08 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Salem

I kind of have a radical view on this.

I happen to think America can not survive without Israel.


48 posted on 05/13/2010 11:53:01 AM PDT by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: pinochet
A better question is can America survive without Israel. He who blesses Israel is blessed and he who curses Israel is cursed according to Holy Scripture.
If Israel, in the plan of The LORD, for any reason needs America, which may in some way symbolize The Church of The Living LORD, to come to it's aid we will.
For our sake we had better be for Israel. Israel needs none other than her LORD.
49 posted on 05/13/2010 1:36:20 PM PDT by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: tuckrdout
"I kind of have a radical view on this. ... I happen to think America can not survive without Israel."

Then you, me, and a couple thousand others around Free Republic are all on Uncle Sam's "radicals" short list.  !

50 posted on 05/13/2010 8:23:25 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Ezekiel

Barack Hudssein 0bama..Yemach shemoe uzichraynu!


51 posted on 05/13/2010 11:59:16 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Frantzie

Those that worship the golden calf 0bama,the god of the Godless, will share the fate of Korach..


52 posted on 05/14/2010 12:01:44 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Salem

God will gurad Israel no matter what, but we need America to be on the right of the good!


53 posted on 05/18/2010 8:27:45 AM PDT by PRePublic
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