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A question for birthers: why Mombassa?
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Posted on 05/12/2010 8:47:16 AM PDT by curiosity

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To: little jeremiah; conservativegramma

He is AKA as a closet racist!!!


751 posted on 05/16/2010 2:40:14 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: little jeremiah; conservativegramma

I recall that from last year he would post here on F.R. opinions he would copy/paste from the “Politjab,” which I told him was a very lib oriented site. He knows how to spin you with deceit and talking points!!!


752 posted on 05/16/2010 2:50:57 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: danamco

He tries but he lost the game.

He is now outed for all the world to see.


753 posted on 05/16/2010 3:14:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: LorenC
There have been ZERO relatives who have claimed to have witnessed any supposed Obama birth in Nairobi. None. Not even Sarah in the McRae tape.

Actually according to your transcript the translator corrected Sarah...

OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

Why is it that the translator Ogombe saw fit to correct her or prevent her from answering that question truthfully?

754 posted on 05/16/2010 3:26:13 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: danamco; mojitojoe
I recall that from last year he would post here on F.R. opinions he would copy/paste from the “Politjab,” which I told him was a very lib oriented site. He knows how to spin you with deceit and talking points!!!

Spin yes, but deceive no. I've been on to him for well over a year now. And I recognize lib talking points when I see them. To those of us who read and research they're not fooling anyone. They only fool those too lazy to do their own work and drink the lamestream media koolaid.

I'm just happy he's been outed - so much fun posting that pic! Thank you mojitojoe!! :) rofl

755 posted on 05/16/2010 4:27:15 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: little jeremiah

curiosity has been AWOL since Thursday, the stimulus money must have run out???


756 posted on 05/16/2010 4:31:27 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: little jeremiah

milspec took off when he was outed. LOL


757 posted on 05/16/2010 4:50:37 PM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mojitojoe

Shine the light of truth on the darkness and watch the cockroaches run for cover.


758 posted on 05/16/2010 4:59:38 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: curiosity; All

Troll Alert!

Curiosity is not a conservative, and supports numerous tyrannical incursions.

Check posting history!


759 posted on 05/16/2010 5:02:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: parsifal; little jeremiah

Why borrow someones...... Just use your own. Those dates are sure a coincidence. Funny you signed up there a couple of days after JR told you to stop trolling the BC threads here. If it wasn’t for the coincidence of the dates, I might have believed you were pranked.


760 posted on 05/16/2010 5:45:48 PM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: editor-surveyor

Curiosity is an Obot troll.


761 posted on 05/16/2010 5:46:28 PM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: danamco

I think it had to do with travel schedules on passenger liners. For freighters, that would obviously be different.


762 posted on 05/16/2010 7:25:51 PM PDT by sometime lurker
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To: danamco

The sponsors learned that $100 had been paid to the Free Republic.


763 posted on 05/16/2010 7:47:15 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: sometime lurker

He said that Sr. flew into Honolulu, and I was disputing that, but he is moot!!!


764 posted on 05/16/2010 8:18:20 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: usmcobra
Actually according to your transcript the translator corrected Sarah...

OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

Why is it that the translator Ogombe saw fit to correct her or prevent her from answering that question truthfully?

Firstly, where do you get the idea that Ogombe is correcting HER? If you listen to the tape, Obombe translates McRae's question about Mombasa to Sarah, there's some discussion in Swahili, and then Ogombe translates back the response. A couple of questions later, he even explicitly states that he's translating her response, not correcting in her place: "Hawaii, sir. She says he was born in Hawaii."

And as I've said before, McRae had a translator on the scene, the pseudonymous 'Reverend Shuhubia.' If Ogombe was mistranslating or interjecting inappropriately, 'Shuhubia' never spoke up to say so. And he's heard on the tape at other times, so he must've been okay with the translation.

But all that's beside the point. null & void said that there have been "relatives" who witnessed a supposed birth in "Nairobi." He used that as an argument, and it's utterly false. If you're attempting to redefine "relatives" from plural to singular, and "Nairobi" to "not Nairobi," then you're going a long way to changing what null actually wrote in order to avoid admitting he lied.

765 posted on 05/17/2010 6:42:57 AM PDT by LorenC
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To: LorenC

Post the actual transcript including what was actually said in Swahili.

I know you have it, let’s see it.

Who was Ogombe, and who did he work for?

The line I quoted came from you, it is his response not her’s to the question of Obama’s birthplace, which every Kenyan well tell you is Kenya.


766 posted on 05/17/2010 7:08:44 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: usmcobra

I stopped falling for this distraction tactic a while back, you know.

null & void posts a lie. I point out it’s a lie. You respond to my accusation, and your response includes a bit of a tangent. I respond to the tangent and reiterate the initial accusation, and you respond in turn by completely ignoring the original dispute and trying to shift the entire conversation onto your new chosen tangent.

Sorry, but no. McRae and ‘Shuhubia’s failure to tape the conversation on the Kenyan end is wholly irrelevant to null’s factual claim. null says there have been multiple relatives who have claimed to have witnessed a birth in Nairobi. Maybe he was trying to start a new rumor, and hoping that no one would call him on it. I’m still saying that his statement is a lie, and no one, not even null, seems interested in actually saying it’s not.

Instead, you just want to change subjects.


767 posted on 05/17/2010 7:54:34 AM PDT by LorenC
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To: LorenC
Let me see..... a conversation where Sarah Obama may have said Obama was born in Mombasa except for the fact that the official translator answered for her, isn't germane to this thread.....

And now your own posts on this VERY thread are according to you are a distraction????

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


768 posted on 05/17/2010 8:26:31 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: danamco
Hello, hello, calling Curio, don’t they pay you for posting on week-ends, or why the silence, over???

I don't have infinite amounts of time. I have a life. I also need breaks from arguing with birthers. You probably won't be hearing from me for a while.

769 posted on 05/17/2010 1:01:18 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

But you seems to have plenty of time to answer my question on post 698 and earlier , or you just want to change subject in the middle of the road???


770 posted on 05/17/2010 1:05:35 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: All

If I recall correctly one of the initiators of the Mombasa story was Chief Editor Korir (once worshiped by birthers like a Messiah - no one of the tough birthers even dared to contradict him). He said a nephew of the Imam that baptized Obama in Mombasa had copy of a Mombasa Mosque’s birth record. This was a blatant and ridiculous lie for a couple of very simple reasons: there is no baptism in Islam (in fact there are no sacraments as in Christianity) and ensuingly Mosques don’t keep baptism (or wedding or death) records. However this lie sticked and was discussed for many months. I believe Mombasa, a predominantly Muslim city was chosen to enforce the radical-islamic connection. This case remains emblematic about how gullible birthers can be.


771 posted on 05/18/2010 6:40:24 AM PDT by Mik Taerg
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To: Mik Taerg

Never heard of him


772 posted on 05/18/2010 1:39:47 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: usmcobra

you really missed something. Hilarious and troubling.
Kenyan scammer living in Norway. Inventor of Mombasa Imam, Michelle tapes and other countless birther legends. An allmost mythoilogical figure.
Look him up, Chief Editor Korir, the site was africanpress or something similar. He had all of them in his pocket with his false promises: Berg, Corsi, Martin.
Have fun, he was great.


773 posted on 05/18/2010 11:49:21 PM PDT by Mik Taerg
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To: Mik Taerg

I’d like to see a link that definitively ties him to Berg, Corsi, and Martin where they admit he pulled a Nigerian type scam on them, please.


774 posted on 05/19/2010 3:49:29 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: usmcobra

don’t understand quite well what you mean by “tied”. They where not his accomplices, only they believed him. I’ll post the link you requested. If you are impatient you can just look it up yourself, there are many references, mails, blogs.


775 posted on 05/19/2010 11:05:06 AM PDT by Mik Taerg
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To: Mik Taerg

“Tied” as in you have proof they were all actually bamboozled by the same source, or is that too difficult?


776 posted on 05/19/2010 11:14:30 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: usmcobra

Per WND:

“Corsi reported that when he was in Kenya he was told that Obama actually was born not in Honolulu but in Mombosa, on the Kenyan coast. He also said he was told by government officials there that his records were sealed and nothing could be released.”

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=78954

Corsi was in Kenya investigating Obama’s support for fellow Luo tribesman Odinga at the time.


777 posted on 05/19/2010 4:29:30 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: usmcobra

From WND’s analysis of the tape that Berg put into evidence by Luo tribal folks who know Obama’s step grandma:

begin quote:

Nevertheless, two members of Sarah Hussein Obama’s Luo tribe who are fluent in the local Luo dialect, Swahlili and English told WND that after carefully listening to the tape they believe she declared Barack Obama Jr. was born in Mombasa, Kenya, and that she was present at the birth.

Tale of the tape

Sarah Hussein Obama, who is not a blood relative of the president, is the third wife of Obama’s paternal grandfather. According to New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof, who visited her village during the presidential campaign, the grandmother is illiterate and doesn’t know when she was born. Several news reports say she was born in 1922.

The controversy over the tape centers on the interpreter, who at the end interjects repeatedly that the grandmother said Obama was born in Hawaii.

One of the WND sources who listened to the tape knows Sarah Obama and has met with her in her home village. The other holds a respected position in the Kenyan government.

The source who knows the grandmother declared: “I have keenly and attentively listened to the tape over and over again, and I can confirm from Sarah’s own confession that Barack Obama was born in Kenya in her presence.”

The source said that while Sarah Obama’ voice is hard to hear on the recording, “she admits of actually having been there at his birth.”

He said that while the people in the room with Sarah Obama “tried as much as they [could] to change the tone of the whole story … to me it seems someone is coaching her from the background and seemingly trying to guide her on what to say.”

The Kenyan government source agreed.

“I have listened to the tape,” he said. “The preacher asked whether Barack Obama was born in Mombasa, and the translator asked the same. When she said Mombasa, it was like a surprise, and those there thought she could not have meant to say Mombasa.”

The source said that at that point “they began insisting Hawaii was where Barack Obama was born.”

Sarah Obama can be heard uttering “Mombasa” in response to McRae’s question about where Obama was born.

end quote

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=107524


778 posted on 05/19/2010 4:45:40 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Vendome
in order to place McCain on the ballot, the United States Senate went so far as to craft the Senate Resolution 511 proclaiming John McCain a Natural Born Citizen.

Well there you have it...this ends the debate.

B Hussein is obviously not an NBC because unlike John McCain...the Senate did not proclaim him as much.

779 posted on 05/19/2010 5:24:23 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Zactly


780 posted on 05/19/2010 6:19:59 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: usmcobra

WND and Editor Korir
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=78259
Emails netween Corsi and Korir
http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/did-michelle-obama-just-confirm-barack.html
Philp Berg represents ditor Korir
http://mountainsageblog.com/2008/11/06/stop-the-pressessammy-korir-confirms-obama-born-in-kenya/
API retains counsel–Philip Berg–for U.S. distribution of taped evidence
http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2008/10/african-press-international-open-letter-to-michelle-obama-from-api-chief-editor/

you can dig further a you please. But wa your point ? Everybody knew what was happening


781 posted on 05/21/2010 3:21:24 AM PDT by Mik Taerg
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To: Mik Taerg

You just proved nothing that I asked you to prove, I asked for a link that showed Corsi, Berg, and Martin were all taken in by this one man’s scam.

If anything your links proved quite the opposite, this guy was a scammer that no one was taken in by.


782 posted on 05/21/2010 11:40:36 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: usmcobra

I don’t believe you read anyone of the links I sent you. Do some search over them, go to the sources linked in the links.
This is totally pointless. What statement are you trying to make ? That Corsi and Berg, etc. are serious, objective, reliable searchers ? How about Taitz and Smith who idiotically wants you to believe he “lost” his precious BC after being detained ? How can anyone believe he carried his fraud in a suitcase to Santo Domingo ? Can’t you see he is just trying to find a clever way out ?


783 posted on 05/22/2010 1:57:56 AM PDT by Mik Taerg
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To: Mik Taerg

Sure I read them, did you?

There is nothing in them saying that anyone was scammed by this guy or that they based their efforts purely upon what he was selling.

He may have contacted them but it seems he contacted everyone he could long after they had all ready started investigating.

Personally I bet they ignored him as a government plant or rather a Obamite trying to discredit them.


784 posted on 05/22/2010 9:06:33 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: usmcobra

“personally” doesn’t count


785 posted on 05/24/2010 12:54:29 AM PDT by Mik Taerg
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