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Turkey Installs Anti-Aircraft Batteries Near Syrian Border To Prevent Israeli Attacks On Iran
International Middle East Media Center ^ | May 13, 2010 | By Saed Bannoura

Posted on 05/13/2010 8:30:09 AM PDT by Strategy

Turkey has installed Anti-Aircraft Hawk Missiles at a village close to the Syrian border in an attempt to prevent Israeli war jets from violating Turkish Airspace in case of an attack against Iran or Syria.

A Turkish paper reported that Turkey will not allow Israel to use its airspace to attack Iran, Syria or any other country, and will act against any such violations.

The anti-aircraft batteries were installed in the village of Kayeel, south of Turkey and located close to the Syrian border.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, a Turkish military official stated that the batteries are meant to protect Turkey and its airspace against any violations, including American or Israeli war jets should Israel or the United States decide to attack Iran or Syria.

(Excerpt) Read more at imemc.org ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel
KEYWORDS: 0bamasfault; airstrikes; iran; israel; nato; natoantiisrael; natoantisemitism; natovsisrael; obama; obamasfault; turkey
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1 posted on 05/13/2010 8:30:10 AM PDT by Strategy
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To: Strategy

“Speaking on condition of anonymity, a Turkish military official stated that the batteries are meant to protect Turkey and its airspace against any violations, including American or Israeli war jets should Israel or the United States decide to attack Iran or Syria.”

Purely under conditions of anonymity, I see it doesn’t applt to Syrian or Iranian craft.


2 posted on 05/13/2010 8:32:22 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: Strategy
They don't need to lose sleep worrying about an American attack on Iran.

3 posted on 05/13/2010 8:34:12 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: ZULU
Purely under conditions of anonymity, I see it doesn’t apply to Syrian or Iranian craft.

Purely under conditions of anonymity, I see islam inaction.

4 posted on 05/13/2010 8:37:09 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 476 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Strategy

How good are these Hawk SAMs?


5 posted on 05/13/2010 8:40:38 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (?)
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To: Strategy

After what the Israelis did to the Syrians, I don’t think I’d want to be a Turkish soldier manning one of those batteries.

They’ll never see them coming. Just poof!


6 posted on 05/13/2010 8:42:18 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Strategy

Well, that will be an easy engagement envelope (bubble) that can be avoided...

Obviously, this is a public message meant to illicite a subtle political response...

Ankara must believe they are immune from a missile attack from Iran or something...

Dunderheads...


7 posted on 05/13/2010 8:44:10 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: Strategy

NP 65-12 batteries(Turkey)


8 posted on 05/13/2010 8:44:58 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Strategy
More confirmation that Turkey is in the Jihad camp. I guess if the 3rd World War doesn't light up first and we jettison our Marxist Muslim President, we'll have to remember all this Turkish help. Time to recognize a new independent Kurdish state that encompasses a chunk of our former friends lands.

Anybody in the MSM noting all these pieces falling into place; Hezbollah arming up, SCUDS into Lebanon, Iran testing their weapons, Israel announcing long range refueling capability, Gulf states talking about reactors. This will be a major Obama "oh sh_t" moment that will find him busy shooting hoops while the world burns again.

9 posted on 05/13/2010 8:45:53 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: stevie_d_64

The route across Saudi Arabia is not bothered by this action


10 posted on 05/13/2010 8:46:19 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: Strategy

If this is true, we should no longer consider Turkey an ally. Unfortunately, I’m quite fearful it might have been our President who quietly whispered to Turkey that they ought to do so....If so, our nations days are already numbered.


11 posted on 05/13/2010 8:47:53 AM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Jack Hydrazine
How good are these Hawk SAMs?

Not very. 60's-era design, kept alive by decreasingly-effective upgrades. We phased them out in the 90's IIRC.

12 posted on 05/13/2010 8:49:18 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Strategy

Hey Turkey, what convinces you that Iran won’t use it’s nukes on you? They don’t call him AhminaNutJob for nothing folks.

And their government being what it is, you would do well to get your Islamic boots on. And if you don’t do it just so, Iran is going to help you get it right.


13 posted on 05/13/2010 8:49:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Excusaholic: MeCain lost to Jr., RINO endorsements are flying, & you live at 2012 Denial Blvd.)
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To: Billthedrill

Yes Hawks in this day and age would be a joke!


14 posted on 05/13/2010 8:51:36 AM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (Zero will never be my President, never!!!!!)
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To: Strategy

Turkey needs to be booted out of NATO. Just for starters.


15 posted on 05/13/2010 8:53:23 AM PDT by mojito
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To: Billthedrill

We use to call them Holiday and Weekend Killers!


16 posted on 05/13/2010 8:53:33 AM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (Zero will never be my President, never!!!!!)
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To: Strategy

Obama when he was briefed on this ...

“Batteries, don’t they have enough fuel for generators?” asked Obama.

His aide replied, “They are thinking Green, Zero Emissions”.

Obama says “Green is good, let’s send them a subsidy for these batteries”.


17 posted on 05/13/2010 8:56:17 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Strategy

If Israel is thinking of hitting Iran they had better do it sooner rather than later. the longer they wait the tougher it will be

(IMO Sadly, I don’t think they are ever going to do it, but I’d be glad if they prove me wrong though)


18 posted on 05/13/2010 8:56:53 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (The Obama Presidency, just over a year old, and already the worst in history)
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To: Strategy

Then I guess the Israeli air force will have to take them out.


19 posted on 05/13/2010 8:58:35 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Strategy

BTW with russia helping iran build it’s nuclear plant, and offering to help Turkey with their s and considering giving Syria one as well, pretty soon the whole ME will go nuclear, and chances are Israel will be gone one day.

all it takes for evil to prosper is for good men(like Netanyahu) to do nothing.


20 posted on 05/13/2010 8:59:30 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (The Obama Presidency, just over a year old, and already the worst in history)
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To: throwback
we'll have to remember all this Turkish help.

Agreed.

I've said that Bush's worst mistake was not dividing Iraq and Afghanistan along ethnic lines and simply set to them to killing each other.

It would have been especially appropriate in the case of Iraq, as Turkey wouldn't allow us to stage from their territory, and there is nothing Turkey fears more than an independent Kurdistan on their border. It would have been a suitable reward for their "help"...

21 posted on 05/13/2010 9:09:35 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 476 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Strategy

I was a Hawk Acquisition Radar repairman way back in the 60s. They were a good air defense missile back then. I don’t know how much they’ve been upgraded.

I would presume that we gave these missiles to Turkey back when they were defending NATO’s right flank from a potential attack by the Soviet Union.

Since then, unfortunately, Turkey has gradually switched sides, and now is our potential enemy. Regretable, but they have been going Islamist and cozying up to Iran. Hopefully, Israel also is familiar with the Hawk Missile system and knows how to counter it.


22 posted on 05/13/2010 9:10:47 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cubs Fan
and chances are Israel will be gone one day.

That's the eventual fate of all nations.

23 posted on 05/13/2010 9:16:24 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: throwback
"More confirmation that Turkey is in the Jihad camp."

That is extra sad as Turkey's military has usually stayed secular (ie out of political decisions). Turkey's military also has ties with Israel.. at least to date.

They just completed (using Israeli expertise and systems) a major upgrade of many of their existing tanks. Israel is one of the major contractors/advisers/tech partners on Turkeys newest tank they are developing and building. So my question would be, are the Hawk missiles a feint (to Israels benefit), or a signal that there is a change in relationship going on between the politicians and the military in Turkey?

24 posted on 05/13/2010 9:18:21 AM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: throwback
Well said. I have certainly made note of these recent activities, and I'm sure many other informed FReepers have too.

One more thing. Turkey is a member of NATO. What are they doing essentially defensively arming against a US ally?

25 posted on 05/13/2010 9:22:26 AM PDT by Obadiah (I can see November from my house!)
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To: bert

But the Saudi’s might have a problem with it...

See, if the Israeli’s had an Aircraft Carrier, that would change the whole dynamic wouldn’t it??? ;-)


26 posted on 05/13/2010 9:23:04 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: JSteff
So my question would be, are the Hawk missiles a feint (to Israels benefit), or a signal that there is a change in relationship going on between the politicians and the military in Turkey?

Actually, that is a good question.

27 posted on 05/13/2010 9:23:40 AM PDT by Obadiah (I can see November from my house!)
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To: Cubs Fan
“good men(like Netanyahu) to do nothing.”

He has been trying. He also did not expect the hatred our government shows to Israel. Obama works against everything Israel tries to do.

28 posted on 05/13/2010 9:24:02 AM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: GourmetDan
After what the Israelis did to the Syrians, I don’t think I’d want to be a Turkish soldier manning one of those batteries. They’ll never see them coming. Just poof!

Turkey is a member of NATO. An Israeli attack on Turkey would give grounds for NATO action against Israel.

29 posted on 05/13/2010 9:28:19 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: ASA Vet
and chances are Israel will be gone one day. That's the eventual fate of all nations.

true but it needn't be so soon if they would attack Iran and take out their nukes. But I doubt they will

30 posted on 05/13/2010 9:32:14 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (The Obama Presidency, just over a year old, and already the worst in history)
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To: stevie_d_64

......But the Saudi’s might have a problem with it......

unless they are flying high cover or have assigned targets


31 posted on 05/13/2010 9:46:29 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: Strategy

A pretty misleading headline.

It would be a highly belligerent act for Israel to use Turkish airspace en-route to an attack on Iran without Turkish consent, one that would pose the risk of gross domestic political instability (among other things), and Turkey is within its rights to deter that kind of action.

American aircraft on combat missions never overfly non-consenting states, that’s for sure; even combat support missions have some very complicated rules (certain kinds of air missions to Iraq can’t refuel in a number of allied and friendly countries, for example).


32 posted on 05/13/2010 9:54:15 AM PDT by only1percent
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If we had an administration that would support the logistical side of a potential raid by Israel, and refuel the A/C involved in that raid, then there probably would be no stopping them from doing it...

I’ll bet a buffalo nickle Obama would blow the whistle on the Israeli’s even if they asked...

What a peach of a guy there...


33 posted on 05/13/2010 10:07:50 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: patriot preacher
If this is true, we should no longer consider Turkey an ally. Unfortunately, I’m quite fearful it might have been our President who quietly whispered to Turkey that they ought to do so....If so, our nations days are already numbered.

Absolutely. You have to figure Hussein is basically a spy for all the countries that hate the U.S.
34 posted on 05/13/2010 10:27:26 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: Cubs Fan
BTW with russia helping iran build it’s nuclear plant, and offering to help Turkey with their s and considering giving Syria one as well, pretty soon the whole ME will go nuclear, and chances are Israel will be gone one day.

Israel won't be gone. God will intervene. Israel may take a lot of casualties though.
35 posted on 05/13/2010 10:29:32 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: Strategy

How high can the jets fly?

How high can the missles go?


36 posted on 05/13/2010 10:40:28 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ZULU

Don’t worry folks..

Our current crop of Clown Flag Officers ever eager to dispose of well established, effective amd paid For Weapons Platforms (Perhaps to justify buying new ones to help the MIC? and their golden parachutes)?

Well they provided the Turks with 1000 M60 Series tanks during P. Bush II days..

You know the Tanks used to threaten the American Forces who had No Tanks in Kurdistan because the Turks (our “Allies”) refused to let the US Army pass thru their territory?

Yeah those were American Tanks given to our “Ally”.

W


37 posted on 05/13/2010 11:33:19 AM PDT by WLR (Remember 911 Remember 91 Iran delinda est.)
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Sorry... Any bets at least some of the Missles and Command and Control Systems threatening US and Isralie aircraft are of US Origin?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Air_Force#Air_Defense_Weapons

Brilliant

W


38 posted on 05/13/2010 11:38:21 AM PDT by WLR (Remember 911 Remember 91 Iran delinda est.)
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To: WLR

Muslims can’t be trusted by non-Muslims - EVER.


39 posted on 05/13/2010 11:42:15 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: ZULU

Koran

5.51” : O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the
unjust people.

Mmmm.....I guess your right..

W


40 posted on 05/13/2010 12:21:22 PM PDT by WLR (Remember 911 Remember 91 Iran delinda est.)
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To: Uncle Hal

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Sometimes I think the best thing would be for Israel to force a conclusion to its cold war with the region and jump directly to the Sampson option now.

But I realize that is crazy to the point of being silly.


41 posted on 05/13/2010 12:25:54 PM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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To: PapaBear3625
"Turkey is a member of NATO. An Israeli attack on Turkey would give grounds for NATO action against Israel."

Ever hear of the U.S.S. Liberty?

42 posted on 05/13/2010 12:47:11 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: JSteff
He also did not expect the hatred our government shows to Israel.

B$, both he and Bush knew what Obama was about, otherwise you would have to presume them both too stupid to breath.

On the other hand Eisenhower expressed total disbelief when Castro declared Cuba was a Communist State, especially after we trained and financed his Revolution.

43 posted on 05/13/2010 2:21:29 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: crosshairs
Israel may take a lot of casualties though.

About two thirds according to some scholars.

44 posted on 05/13/2010 2:23:36 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: GourmetDan
Ever hear of the U.S.S. Liberty?

Yes I have, still not sure what we were doing that upset the Israelis. Something sinister was going on because we never found out how we got all those men killed. It certainly was not a mistake.

45 posted on 05/13/2010 2:26:46 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: Strategy

Not surprising from a country that never really apologized, as far as I know, for massacring the Armenians from 1913-1915.


46 posted on 05/13/2010 2:47:09 PM PDT by IHateLeftists
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
...in an attempt to prevent Israeli war jets from violating Turkish Airspace in case of an attack against Iran or Syria.
Oh yeah, that's the real reason. Even the Islamofascist wannabees running Turkey aren't stupid enough to think Israeli jets flying to Iran are A) going to be any threat to Turkey or B) coming anywhere near Turkey. The threats to Turkey are identical to the threats to Israel, with the addition of the Kurds. Thanks Strategy.
47 posted on 05/13/2010 3:17:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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48 posted on 05/13/2010 5:22:14 PM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Strategy
WTB Turkey Baster:

Tovolo Polycarbonate Dripless Bulb Turkey Baster

49 posted on 05/13/2010 6:20:12 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: ZULU
Muslims can’t be trusted by non-Muslims - EVER.

Or by other Muslims, for very long.

50 posted on 05/13/2010 8:13:48 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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