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UK: Half of young people do not recognise Winston Churchill... & will be 'forgotten' in 80 yrs
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | May 13, 2010

Posted on 05/13/2010 3:57:39 PM PDT by Stoat

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As part of the survey, carried out to mark this week's 70th anniversary of Churchill taking over as prime minister, more than 1,136 people were asked to identify three prominent 20th century PMs including Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair.

One in five (19 per cent) adults failed to name Churchill, with the figure rising to 32 per cent of 25 to 34-year-olds and 44 per cent of those aged 16 to 24.

Following the pattern, researchers projected the rough date when the leaders would no longer be recognised, with Churchill's demise predicted in 80 years' time.

They said the vast majority of those questioned could identify both Mr Blair (97 per cent) and Baroness Thatcher (98 per cent).

But recognition dropped significantly in the 16 to 24-year-old range - 16 per cent failed to identify Baroness Thatcher and more than a quarter (27 per cent) were unable to recognise Mr Blair.

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Kevin Clancy, head of Historical Services at the Royal Mint, added: 'It's shocking that one of our greatest statesmen runs the risk of potentially being forgotten.

'Churchill remains an historical colossus and is arguably one of the nation's greatest Britons.

'It's fundamentally important that we commemorate our heritage for future generations to celebrate, and to mark the 70 years that have passed since he was Prime Minister we're immensely proud to have designed a new £5 coin featuring an iconic Churchillian image, to help his memory live on.'

 

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; churchill; education; england; greatbritain; history; uk; unitedkingdom; winstonchurchill
My apologies for the severe editing of this article....please click on the main article link to see the full story.

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Sir Winston Churchill Margaret ThatcherTony Blair

The Royal Mint survey asked more than 1,136 people to identify prominent 20th century Prime Ministers, including Winston Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair

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This article naturally begs the question of how many 16 year olds here in the USA can identify Ronald Reagan.  Seeing a similar poll done here in the USA would certainly be interesting, although I'm guessing that the teachers' unions would go into hysterics and fullscale damage control mode if
such questions were asked.

Some older Free Republic threads which may be of interest:

Churchill dropped from England's history syllabus (- pandering to a P.C. agenda-)


General Gordon does a Churchill (Winston's enraged grandson- 'you aren't fit to lick his boots')


Great Britain- Fury at Churchill statue (Former PM and beloved hero is in a straightjacket)


Losing the Enlightenment- Remarks at the Claremont Institute's annual Churchill Dinner (VDH)


Rumsfeld Remarks at Churchill Dinner(PATH TO VICTORY- Refashioning Institutions for 21st Century)




1 posted on 05/13/2010 3:57:39 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

My children will know!


2 posted on 05/13/2010 4:00:38 PM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: Stoat

In 80 years most of those 16 year olds will no longer be recognized by anyone but their special care nurses ~ bringing them new drool cups (if they last that long).


3 posted on 05/13/2010 4:01:08 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Stoat
Instead of comparing Churchill to Reagan, it would be more apt to compare him to Lincoln or perhaps Washington. It is hared to believe that someone who steered Britain thru WWII at a time when its very survival was at stake is no longer recognized by half of the young people.

I guess the UK education system is run by liberals, like ours, so Churchill is a non-entity because of his political stance. Also, the UK is being overrun with immigrants who do not share the same history and culture of Britain.

4 posted on 05/13/2010 4:02:49 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Stoat

My family will make certain that American and Southern History survives... and they will pass it on forever.

LLS


5 posted on 05/13/2010 4:02:51 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Stoat

That’s about the same as the percentage of Americans who know who their own congressman is.


6 posted on 05/13/2010 4:03:20 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Stoat

US: Half of young people do not recognize Braky Obummer as a Communist...(the other half, love is blind)- & he will be deported and forgotten in less than 30 months


7 posted on 05/13/2010 4:03:39 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: Stoat

If he’s naked, drinking, smoking weed, cursing, having sex with his girlfriend for the week or shooting someone they will.


8 posted on 05/13/2010 4:03:45 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Argus

Public education in Britain and the US has produced several generations of idiots. Government schools are a disaster and a national disgrace.


9 posted on 05/13/2010 4:04:53 PM PDT by Astronaut
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To: kabar

Hardly 1 in 100 Italians can tell you who was Cicero - it is a fate of the Bible, some saints are remembered and others are not...a 2 thousand year story.


10 posted on 05/13/2010 4:06:49 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: q_an_a

Cicero is part of ancient history. Winston Churchill died on January 24, 1965 or 45 years ago.


11 posted on 05/13/2010 4:12:08 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Stoat
Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair

One of these three is not like the others

12 posted on 05/13/2010 4:12:57 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (great thing about being a cynic: you can enjoy being proved wrong)
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To: Stoat

Winston Churchill is, without doubt, the greatest person of the 20th century, for his life long, fearless battle against tyranny and oppression.

Without WInston Churchill, we’d ALL be speaking German and Russian.

We may still get a chance.


13 posted on 05/13/2010 4:24:38 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Stoat; kabar; GoCards; muawiyah

Churchill in his history of WW II commented on his demise from public view in 1945 as follows:

“Thus, then, on the night of the tenth of May (1940), at the outset of this mighty battle, I acquired the chief power of the State, which henceforth I wielded in ever growing measure for five years and three months of world war, at the end of which time, all our enemies having surrendered unconditionally or being about to do so, I was immediately dismissed by the British electorate from all further conduct of their affairs.”

The attraction of voters for small and tedious people remains, thankfully I think, unappreciated by me.


14 posted on 05/13/2010 4:26:53 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Retain Mike

Churchill did return to public office after WWII and served as PM from October 1951 to April 1955.


15 posted on 05/13/2010 4:35:36 PM PDT by kabar
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To: bunkerhill7
"Being a strong proponent of Britain as an international power, Churchill would often meet such moments with direct action. One example was his dispatch of British troops to Kenya to deal with the Mau Mau rebellion. Trying to retain what he could of the Empire, he once stated that, "I will not preside over a dismemberment."

Could this be the reason Obama returned the bust of Churchill?

16 posted on 05/13/2010 4:38:15 PM PDT by kabar
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To: LibLieSlayer
We inherited a vast resource of information from our Sa'ami ancestors ~ two words ~ no more, no less. Then there was the Ramsey who came to America in a sailing vessel hidding inside a feather bed. We don't even know where he came from!

What I do know is that Churchill's father suffered from a lifelong illness presumed by some to be syphilis ~ but which had all the symptoms of wheat gluten intolerance. Churchill visited Lapland for several months at one stage of his life. Why did he do that? Maybe to experience a wheat free dining experience.

We'll hand that knowledge down so that someday when technology has caught up to the question someone can figure out if Churchill was a cousin of sorts and which one was his tribe.

If the English don't bother to remember the man I think America's exiles can do so.

17 posted on 05/13/2010 4:40:04 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: bunkerhill7

“If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart.
If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain.”
- Sir Winston Churchill


18 posted on 05/13/2010 4:57:16 PM PDT by buzzer
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To: muawiyah

Amen.

LLS


19 posted on 05/13/2010 5:03:04 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Stoat

In 80 years, the UK will not exist as an English-speaking nation, and the nation itself will be unlikely to be remembered by any of the then-current inhabitants.

Silly to worry about remembering Churchill, when England is in peril of disappearing. But France and most of the rest of Europe will suffer the same fate. Worrying about this is like worrying about whether the pigs enjoyed the half-ounce truffle that was in the five gallons of slop poured into their trough.

Ironically, the only hope I see for survival of English-speaking people in Britain is utter economic collapse, followed by the 50 years of cold weather and crop failure that is rapidly approaching. If this motivates less immigration, and even prompts some reverse migration, there is perhaps some chance for England to survive.


20 posted on 05/13/2010 6:03:23 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

In 10 years it won’t. We [The United States], unless we turn things around by no later than 2012, do not even have 80 years.


21 posted on 05/13/2010 6:09:47 PM PDT by sport
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To: GoCards
My children will know!

 

More and more I am reminded that Conservatives are serving the role of "The Book People" of Fahrenheit 451, who spent their lives memorizing every word of a single book and then teaching the book, verbatim, to their children before they died, thereby retaining the book, all of which were banned, for all time.

Amazon.com- Fahrenheit 451 (9780345342966)- Ray Bradbury- Books

 

Fahrenheit 451

 

Fahrenheit 451 (1966)

As the giant Red Wheel of the Left rolls onward, crushing everything in its path, so also we must continually fill in the blanks and correct the intentional distortions of the Left as they attempt to rewrite history to suit their agenda.

22 posted on 05/13/2010 6:12:16 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Stoat

A bump for a most bumpworthy post.


23 posted on 05/13/2010 6:13:48 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion Stops A Beating Heart)
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To: sport

I am not so optimistic as you! If we don’t turn things around in 2010, we won’t have ten years, unfortunately. If we can’t come up with either a veto-proof Congress or a House with the stones to defund the government, I’m not sure we make it even to 2012.


24 posted on 05/13/2010 6:30:35 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: investigateworld
A bump for a most bumpworthy post.

Thank you so much for your exceptionally gracious and complimentary words :-)

Although there have been many who have questioned PM Cameron's Conservatism as not being pure enough,   his election at least indicates that all is not well for the Left in the UK, which is cause enough for some hope and optimism for the future.

I would suggest, however, that here in the USA the spectacle we will witness in November will be an epic bloodbath that will once again cause our dear British Friends to be a bit taken aback by the raucous and unrestrained activities of their Yank cousins. 

Never in my lifetime have I seen so many people so palpably ANGRY with our sitting Administration and the Left in general.  People don't like to be forced into a position of having to draft a law that says public schools can't teach the overthrow of the Country and can't teach hatred of white people or anyone else for that matter under the guise of 'ethnic studies', and they don't like being called 'racists' merely because they have policy disagreements with a President who happens to be half-black or simply because they want their country's national borders to have some real meaning. 

I'm expecting November to be quite glorious ;-)

 

25 posted on 05/13/2010 6:47:36 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: muawiyah
In 80 years most of those 16 year olds will no longer be recognized by anyone but their special care nurses ~ bringing them new drool cups (if they last that long).

Hopefully enough of those 16 year olds will wake up and understand what has been done to them by the Left and will rebel, before it's too late.

If they don't, then we'll be acting out an entirely different movie than what most of us would like to see come to pass as reality.

Idiocracy (2006)

 

26 posted on 05/13/2010 7:02:11 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: kabar

I bet that the same percentage of young people could not tell you what president was military commander of the War In Europe. It is not that history is not taught but that people always forget many important people. How many could tell you who invented the micro chip or the internet? (not the goracle.)


27 posted on 05/14/2010 5:25:21 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Stoat
Some older Free Republic threads which may be of interest:

Here's another. See reply #27 for a link to an audio of Churchill speaking to Parliament for the first time after becoming PM.

WWII + 70 years, 5/13/40 thread

28 posted on 05/14/2010 5:39:24 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: q_an_a
I bet that the same percentage of young people could not tell you what president was military commander of the War In Europe.

The proper analogy would be who was the President during WWII. Perhaps given the poor state of our education system, half of young Americans would not know the answer.

Read this study and you will be amazed about how little Americans know about their history and civic institutions. This is a threat to our democracy. Take a look at Major Finding 3

Major Finding 3:

Civic Knowledge Increases a Person’s Regard for America’s Ideals and Free Institutions

Gaining civic knowledge—as opposed to merely graduating from college—increases a person’s belief in American ideals and free institutions. If two people otherwise share the same basic characteristics, the one with greater civic knowledge will be more likely to support:

•America’s ideals: He or she will be less likely to agree that America corrupts otherwise good people.

•America’s Founding documents: He or she will be less likely to agree that the Founding documents are obsolete.

•American free enterprise: He or she will be more likely to agree that prosperity depends on entrepreneurs and free markets, and less likely to agree that global capitalism produces few winners and many losers.

•The Ten Commandments: He or she will be less likely to agree that the Ten Commandments are irrelevant today.

29 posted on 05/14/2010 6:18:26 AM PDT by kabar
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