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Obama Administration Makes Emergency Funding Request for Teachers (Hussein's $26B Bailout)
Fox News ^ | 5/14/10 | Stephen Clark

Posted on 05/14/2010 2:27:22 PM PDT by jimbo123

Despite President Obama's pledge for honest budgeting and billions of dollars in stimulus money spent to save teachers' jobs, the Education Department is asking for off-the-books emergency funding to keep local districts from laying off school teachers next school year.

Education Secretary Arne Duncan sent Democratic lawmakers a request Thursday to pass a $26 billion emergency supplemental to fund up to 300,000 teachers' jobs that he says will otherwise be lost in the fall.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bailout; debt; education; lies; morelies; nea; teachersunions

1 posted on 05/14/2010 2:27:22 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
And...How many RINOs will agree to it? It's for the **chiiiildren!**, you see!
2 posted on 05/14/2010 2:30:43 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: jimbo123

So Obama wants the private sector taxpayer to bail out the government—again?


3 posted on 05/14/2010 2:31:23 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Another one-year gift from The Kenyan to the teacher’s unions at $86,666.67 per so-called job saved.


4 posted on 05/14/2010 2:33:07 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
Yet another bailout I have to pay for???
5 posted on 05/14/2010 2:34:41 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: jimbo123

There is nothing honest about this man.


6 posted on 05/14/2010 2:36:59 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( On the cutting edge)
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To: jimbo123

Greasing the “skids” for the 2010 vote. He is one piece of work.


7 posted on 05/14/2010 2:37:15 PM PDT by elephant
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To: jimbo123

Teachers my arss! They’re keeping liberal bureaucratic indoctrination specialists and too-good-to-be-true union pensions afloat. Notice none of the overhead positions are in jeopardy of being cut.


8 posted on 05/14/2010 2:37:46 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: jimbo123
By putting a band-aid on the existing system he is preventing the evolutionary and revolutionary changes that hard times demand.

He is preventing improvement in both efficiency and cost effectiveness

This is a perfect time in our nation's history to move toward an online system.

There are already distance learning programs for gifted students that work extremely well, but Obama wants to simply keep funding a system that is grounded in the past.

So much for that "hope and change...eh?"

Check this out for some insight as to what is possible...http://epgy.stanford.edu/ohs/

9 posted on 05/14/2010 2:38:15 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: colorado tanker
Yet another bailout I have to pay for???

The Kenyan says "Ndiyo"!
10 posted on 05/14/2010 2:38:30 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

How long, ?how long o lord must we suffer this thief?


11 posted on 05/14/2010 2:38:34 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: jimbo123

If we wiped out the Dept. of Ed we could have almost three times that available. Not that we should spend it on the teachers’ unions but that money is also wasted.


12 posted on 05/14/2010 2:39:43 PM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: uncommonsense
Notice none of the overhead positions are in jeopardy of being cut.

Hussein hates teachers. Hussein loves administrators.
13 posted on 05/14/2010 2:40:35 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: colorado tanker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJRIdeoceh4


14 posted on 05/14/2010 2:41:21 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: jimbo123

Yep. Somebody tell me again how underpaid public teachers are.


15 posted on 05/14/2010 2:46:02 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Democrat: Someone who supports killing children, but protests executing convicted murderers.)
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To: jimbo123

Not one penny is for teachers.....it’s paying for all the administrators.


16 posted on 05/14/2010 2:46:47 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (The Quran and Mein Kampf: if you've read one you've read them both.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Thank you for this link. My daughter is a Math and Science major Freshman in HS. She currently has a 4.2 GPA with Honors classes. She wants to continue with this HS because of a new Biomedical program that's being offered to Sophomore thru Senior year, however she has a lot of other interests. Particularly Foreign languages and computer graphics. Maybe this will free up her time to do other interests?

What is your experience so far with this accredited school? Would these help or hurt with scholarships? We ARE NOT wealthy.

Thanks for your time.

17 posted on 05/14/2010 2:48:30 PM PDT by poobear
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To: Brilliant

Yes.

This money goes to Demcrat cronies in the states to cover their “deficits”, so they can continue to act irrationally and not negotiate with teachers unions and continue overpaying friendly suppliers and on.


18 posted on 05/14/2010 2:49:03 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Oh, that’s funny! And true!


19 posted on 05/14/2010 2:51:41 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: wintertime

And people bitch when “some” farmers get a little help to keep this country and the rest of the world fed for a pitance. I can’t wait for the REAL price of food to be exposed. We’ve spent TRILLIONS on indoctrination and what has it got us? More freakin’ liberals that do nothing more than bitch. I’m so damned tired of this shit.


20 posted on 05/14/2010 2:53:21 PM PDT by hkp123
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To: jimbo123

Save The Teacher’s Unions, Save The Teacher’s Unions! (s


21 posted on 05/14/2010 2:57:32 PM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: moose2004

I have three friends losing their teaching jobs in Chicago at the end of the school year. They were all told via email. Classy I know. The worst part about it, the schools were supposed to cut administrators also, but the administrators that were to be cut all magically became teachers for the following school year.


22 posted on 05/14/2010 3:04:57 PM PDT by Lachisula
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To: jimbo123

Maybe some of that money could bolster school superintendent pensions in New York, some of which are only in the $300,000 a year area.

Oh and let’s be sure to undercut the spending reforms in the states that are trying to solve the problem locally, like New Jersey. Wouldn’t want to encourage other states to do the same, now, would we.


23 posted on 05/14/2010 3:08:12 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: ExTexasRedhead

very nice video.


24 posted on 05/14/2010 3:29:51 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: poobear
I have absolutely no experience with it except as a news obsessed Freeper.

That said, it is a program at Stanford U...so it is obviously working for gifted kids like yours.

These new online systems are gaining recognition because they are effective (and, I hope, cost effective)...and it is a powerful endorsement that top colleges have been quick to recognize their success.

Dig at this subject with Google...you should be able to develop a complete picture in no time.

Good luck!!!

25 posted on 05/14/2010 3:40:18 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: hkp123

I’m so damned tired of this shit.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I share your exasperation!


26 posted on 05/14/2010 3:59:06 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: jimbo123

Obozo can pay for the teachers out of his 5 million dollars earned for thievery. No more bailouts at all.


27 posted on 05/14/2010 4:16:51 PM PDT by hondact200 ( Lincoln Freed the Enslaved. Obama Enslaves the Free. Obama is Americas Greatest Threat)
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To: Kellis91789
Yep. Somebody tell me again how underpaid public teachers are.
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They are not underpaid in Pennsylvania. The average salary in over 60K in my school district and they pay next to nothing for health care.

28 posted on 05/14/2010 4:25:00 PM PDT by Plumres
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To: uncommonsense

Agreed! They need to cut administrators! And in any necessary teacher cuts, they CAN’T rely on seniority. Increasing class sizes by reducing the number of teachers is a bad, bad, bad idea.


29 posted on 05/14/2010 5:10:20 PM PDT by TexNewMex
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I think you’re right about distance learning for older students in some subjects. But it would be hard to teach lab sciences that way, or foreign languages. And of course it wouldn’t work at all for anyone lower than high school.


30 posted on 05/14/2010 5:10:20 PM PDT by TexNewMex
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To: Lachisula

That’s disgusting (though I guess not surprising). Are your friends looking at private schools? Are they going to have to move?


31 posted on 05/14/2010 5:10:20 PM PDT by TexNewMex
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To: Lachisula

I’m very sorry to hear that.


32 posted on 05/14/2010 6:18:52 PM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: jimbo123
Ah, yes, from Mr. Fiscally Responsible. /sarcasm

The Idiot

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33 posted on 05/14/2010 6:21:27 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Thanks again!


34 posted on 05/14/2010 10:10:26 PM PDT by poobear
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To: poobear

Tuition is $14,000/yr according to the website.


35 posted on 05/14/2010 10:36:52 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Democrat: Someone who supports killing children, but protests executing convicted murderers.)
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To: jimbo123

Education is one of the poorest performing industries in this country yet we are supposed to pay even more for these glorified baby sitters??!!

The proof is in the pudding etc. - no more money for this bottomless pit!!!

We wouldn’t hear a peep out of obungler if the teachers weren’t union. Yet one more industry destroyed by unions - everything they touch fails.


36 posted on 05/14/2010 10:51:44 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: TexNewMex
I think foreign languages can be effectively taught outside the traditional classroom.

In fact, some folks would argue that the traditional classroom is awful for teaching foreign languages because there is no opportunity for immersion in an environment which relies on entirely on that language.

For example, my niece minored in Spanish at the college level after taking 4 years in HS.

When she went to Spain for a semester abroad, she found her classroom learning didn't translate into real language proficiency. In fact, she learned more Spanish in a few months than she had in MANY years of, frankly, wasted classroom time.

From what I am hearing, distance learning needs to be integrated with something akin to a "homeschool program" wherein a parent or mentor is needed for young children. To say that distance learning cannot work because of age would bring into question the success that "homeschooling" has demonstrated.

That said, it is obvious that some work, lab sciences, for example, would require a deviation from the standard.

I think the entire effort here is to "rethink" the idea of learning so as to break the old paradigms that have become stale and wasteful and to rethink the entire concept of education and learning.

We have new technologies and new ideas.

IMO this idea of moving students forward in age groups without regard to their different interests and abilities (that themselves vary over time) is DEAD!

37 posted on 05/14/2010 11:52:41 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I do definitely agree that languages can be taught outside a traditional classroom; I’m not sure that “distance learning” is an effective method (because of the lack of chances for practice). Sorry for the confusion — I was just responding to the part about distance learning.

I also am totally with you that we have a lot of technology that can be very effectively used in education. Video conferencing and “field trips” (like those to colonial Williamsburg) provide amazing opportunities for kids.


38 posted on 05/15/2010 1:08:37 AM PDT by TexNewMex
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To: TexNewMex
And I don't mean to be hardheaded about the "distance" part...just that the whole process needs to be completely broken down and rebuilt to get rid of the antiquated stuff.

BTW the great power of recorded lectures (which are available by distance learning) came through to me when I watched the MIT Opencourseware lectures on physics by Dr Walter Lewin.

I realized that now that students living in rural Mississippi (for example) can have access to the most gifted professors (distance learning) and mingle, via teleconferencing, with students of equal aptitude in NYC, of Omaha, or Kodiak, Alaska.

I believe that, whatever the other problems we may face at present, we are at the cusp of a revolution in education...vy exciting IMO.

That's one of the reasons I get so aggravated with the stupidity of Barack Obama and his obsession with politicizing every aspect of American life. With Obama, everything comes back to community organizing and racial politics.

He and his crowd of socialists don't realize that time has moved on and left them in the past. They cling to old broken-down ideas which failed to embrace excellence, profitability (not just of the financial sort), and the power of human determination.

All these dumb@ss socialists care about is creating a world wherein we all exist at the point of the lowest human denominator. If one person is unwilling to try, we must all give up so that person isn't offended.

Oops, there I go getting round up into a rant...again.

Sorry!

39 posted on 05/15/2010 5:05:29 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: jimbo123

How in heck to you keep it off the books? It has to accounted for somehow, unless you just crank up the government money printing presses?


40 posted on 05/15/2010 9:38:45 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Paperdoll

You’re correct: nothing.


41 posted on 05/15/2010 9:41:08 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Bless America)
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To: jimbo123
off-the-books emergency funding

Thereby getting past the whole deficit neutral sham.

42 posted on 05/15/2010 9:44:08 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Bless America)
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To: Kellis91789

OUCH!


43 posted on 05/15/2010 2:37:56 PM PDT by poobear
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To: poobear

It’s outrageous when you consider that there should be much less overhead associated with an online school. No dedicated buildings, sports fields, janitors, or significant admin costs. If every teacher is teaching classes of 20 students, that’s $280,000/yr per teacher with very little overhead.

That’s a racket.

25 years ago when I was getting my degree in computer science, I worked on artificial intelligence expert systems for teaching. The idea was to allow many fewer teachers since the need for individual attention would be rare. Back then it would have required a physical presence close to computer servers capable of running such software. Today the required server processing power is trivial and broadband would allow students, teachers, and servers to all be at dispersed locations.

Education should be cheap, consistent, and free of indoctrination by now. There are only three reasons why it isn’t: Teachers, teachers’ unions, and school administrators. What would the world be like if government employees were actually interested in getting the job done as efficiently and inexpensively as possible rather than lining their own pockets ?


44 posted on 05/15/2010 3:13:42 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Democrat: Someone who supports killing children, but protests executing convicted murderers.)
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To: Kellis91789

Thank you. A choir at this end agrees with you.


45 posted on 05/15/2010 4:29:32 PM PDT by poobear
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