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Google Says It Mistakenly Collected Data on Web Usage
Wall Street Journal ^ | 5-14-10 | Jessica E. Vascellaro

Posted on 05/15/2010 12:18:04 AM PDT by STARWISE

Google Inc. said an internal investigation has discovered that the roving vans the company uses to create its online mapping services were mistakenly collecting data about websites people were visiting over wireless networks.

The Internet giant said it would stop collecting Wi-Fi data from its StreetView vans, which workers drive to capture street images and to locate Wi-Fi networks. The company said it would dispose of the data it had accidentally collected.

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"It's now clear that we have been mistakenly collecting samples of payload data from open (i.e. non-password-protected) Wi-Fi networks, even though we never used that data in any Google products," wrote Mr. Eustace. "We are profoundly sorry for this error and are determined to learn all the lessons we can from our mistake."

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KEYWORDS: bigbrother; corruption; datacollection; datatheft; democratcorruption; democrats; google; googlestreet; internet; liberalfascism; obama; privacy; spies; street; streetmap
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The camera of a German Google Street View car looms over the car next to the Google logo at the Google stand at the CeBIT Technology Fair on March 3, 2010 in Hannover, Germany.

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Google's in -0's back pocket, tracking internet usage and withholding search info .. especially if it pertains to him.

List of internet search engines

1 posted on 05/15/2010 12:18:05 AM PDT by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE

Hey, it was an accident - Google had no idea their street cameras could pick up wifi addresses, correleate them with the photographs, identify the addresses of the photographed houses, look up and match the residents of the houses, match them with the wifi addresses and store them in a secret database.

Mistakes happen.


2 posted on 05/15/2010 12:56:54 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: STARWISE

“Google Inc. said an internal investigation has discovered...” “...were mistakenly collecting data...”

Oh yes, of course. A “mistake”. We believe you, Google.

“We are profoundly sorry for this error and are determined to learn all the lessons we can from our mistake.”

Yes, I’m sure. I can just feel the sincerity. We believe you, Google. Do you believe that we believe you?


3 posted on 05/15/2010 1:12:12 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: STARWISE

“It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to get permission.”


4 posted on 05/15/2010 1:31:33 AM PDT by Nickname (2012 - Yes You're Canned!)
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To: STARWISE
Also discussed here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2513812/posts?

-PJ

5 posted on 05/15/2010 1:38:10 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Talisker

later


6 posted on 05/15/2010 1:58:08 AM PDT by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE MRSA INFECTION IN THE STATE and the death of freedom)
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To: STARWISE
I never trusted wifi, on instinct! Google are awful & getting worse. Obama dumped on their competitors Apple & MS the other day. I've not seen anyone make that correlation. Google are totally in bed with the regime.
7 posted on 05/15/2010 2:54:05 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: STARWISE
The Internet giant said it would stop collecting Wi-Fi data from its StreetView vans, which workers drive to capture street images and to locate Wi-Fi networks. The company said it would dispose of the data it had accidentally collected.

"Accidently"?  They admit to collecting the data, so it wasn't by accident.

8 posted on 05/15/2010 2:55:57 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: STARWISE

I will be studying at a major NE college soon & would prefer to keep my surfing habits (ie. FR etc.) not “googlized”. I want a good pay proxy service. Can anyone recommend one?


9 posted on 05/15/2010 2:55:58 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
"Accidently"? They admit to collecting the data, so it wasn't by accident.

It's like when a leftist says they "misspoke" - it's just utterly meaningless newsspeak. It just keeps you off-balance enough so you go away.
10 posted on 05/15/2010 2:57:13 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: STARWISE
Steve Urkel now works at Google.

"Did I do that?"

11 posted on 05/15/2010 3:22:01 AM PDT by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: STARWISE

How obvious can you get. Pretend it was a mistake, limited to a narrow scope and you want to fix it, as a cover for the fact that you’re actually doing more of it behind the scenes on a broader scale.


12 posted on 05/15/2010 4:06:18 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Socialist don't know how to explain the alleged benefits of socialism, even to themselves)
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To: STARWISE

I suspect Google has to legally say they “mistakenly” collected the data (which is interesting since they re a technology company) because otherwise they would be guilty of conducting illegal wiretaps/eavesdropping.


13 posted on 05/15/2010 4:19:41 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: STARWISE

Well, if they were observing activity on MY wireless network, they they have to have cracked my WPA/WPA2 security code. And THAT is a criminal act.


14 posted on 05/15/2010 4:25:08 AM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: Talisker
Sure this was a mistake. They're covering their collective behinds, because I assure you there is a law suit on the way. Someone busted them and this is called PR 101 in order to cover their behinds. This is big, very big. Think outside the box, "IF" Google can do this what other groups can do this ? ACORN? Perhaps your own government?

Most of all, millions were ciphered by ACORN during the 2008 presidential election in order for Google to give to the Obama campaign. The rumors that are flying around say that Obama is more paranoid than Nixon ever dared to be. So you keep believing this was a mistake. Here's a simple question for you. What will have to take place for you to open your eyes - Martial Law to stop the elections? The middle class becoming nonexistent and socialism taking over? What will have to take place for you to wake-up?
15 posted on 05/15/2010 4:56:32 AM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Talisker

LOL! That’s just what I wanted to say, but with only 2 sips of coffee, it’s not happening!

super secret tech accidents happen bttt ping


16 posted on 05/15/2010 4:56:50 AM PDT by homegroan (Proud member of the Hoi Polloi......ILLIGITIMA NON CARBORUNDUM..... -that's 4U Dad!))
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To: STARWISE

Hooray! Scroogle is back...

http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm


17 posted on 05/15/2010 5:10:36 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: STARWISE

....... right ! ......and I stopped using google by mistake !! ,,,,,,,, hardly !!!


18 posted on 05/15/2010 5:20:31 AM PDT by lionheart 247365 (-:{ GLEN BECK is 0bama's TRANSPARENCY CZAR }:-)
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To: STARWISE
were mistakenly collecting data about websites people were visiting over wireless networks

I don't get it. They drive by in a van and detect the presence of your wireless network. How do they get to the next step of knowing what web sites you've been visiting? Do they stop, login, and browse your temp files and cookies?

19 posted on 05/15/2010 5:24:27 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: STARWISE

All your “mistakes” are belong to us.


20 posted on 05/15/2010 5:28:35 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: Minn

They could be doing a raw traffic dump, but how much data can they get in ~5 seconds of driving by? And why even admit to it at all? If they denied it, who would ever know the difference?


21 posted on 05/15/2010 5:30:17 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
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To: Talisker

The ultimate ‘War Drive’.


22 posted on 05/15/2010 5:32:12 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: STARWISE
Google. Why is Al Gore on your board of directors?
23 posted on 05/15/2010 5:35:59 AM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: meyer

You’re right. You can’t be casually driving by on a mapping expedition while cracking WPA in something near real-time. And what if the router isn’t handling DHCP?


24 posted on 05/15/2010 5:37:40 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: STARWISE
If I want nothing to do with google what sites can I use on internet?
25 posted on 05/15/2010 5:44:26 AM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Dan Nunn

“They could be doing a raw traffic dump, but how much data can they get in ~5 seconds of driving by? And why even admit to it at all? If they denied it, who would ever know the difference?”

A disgruntled Google employee dropped a dime on them? It’s almost always an insider.

I agree with an earlier post that suggests that there will be a huge lawsuit over this. This News release is to get out in front. The Army calls it ‘preparing the battlefield’.


26 posted on 05/15/2010 5:44:28 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: STARWISE
If I want nothing to do with google what sites can I use on internet?
27 posted on 05/15/2010 5:45:23 AM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Nevermore

Steve Urkel now works at Google.
“Did I do that?”


Could be the other way around. This Regime is very dangerous.


28 posted on 05/15/2010 5:45:42 AM PDT by unkus
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To: STARWISE

What? No ‘Clusty’ listed as a search engine? I use it all the time.

http://www.clusty.com

And Google is full of it. You can’t find the dirt on any ‘Rat or any sites that give you the truth about the state of our economy without having to dig for it on Google.


29 posted on 05/15/2010 5:46:44 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with Chocolate.)
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To: Talisker
"Hey, it was an accident - Google had no idea their street cameras could pick up wifi addresses, correleate them with the photographs, identify the addresses of the photographed houses, look up and match the residents of the houses, match them with the wifi addresses and store them in a secret database."

Yep, happens to me all the time, you are involved looking up stuff on the internet about home improvement and suddenly you are on a webpage with midget porn. It just kinda sneaks up on you because all those buttons and keys on your computer are confusing and well mistakes happen right....

(hehehehe)

30 posted on 05/15/2010 5:51:38 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: STARWISE
Somebody had to include the application that was collectiing this, therefore they knew what was being collected. But obamma will give google an exemption from presecution, as they are a big-time supporter, though that will never be the announced as the reason.
31 posted on 05/15/2010 5:57:47 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: STARWISE
The company said it would dispose of the data it had accidentally collected.

They commit a criminal act in collecting the info, and now they want to cover it up. Nice....

32 posted on 05/15/2010 5:58:04 AM PDT by freebilly (No wonder the left has a boner for Obama. There's CIALIS in soCIALISt....)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

“...which workers drive to capture street images and to locate Wi-Fi networks...”

Exactly!!


33 posted on 05/15/2010 5:59:48 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Paige
I read where a guy in Germany asked google just recently whether they were doing this collecting of data, and google strongly denied it. And then google stated they started their own internal investigation, and discovered they were in fact collecting this data.

(I suspect they knew all along the data was being collected, but they figured they had to come clean now, after denying it, because of the legal ramifications of denying it before. The just bought some time between at first denying it, and now disclosing they were indeed collecting it, to come up with a legal response. (and to contact obamma and AG Holder for their help.))

34 posted on 05/15/2010 6:03:23 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Big Horn
If I want nothing to do with google what sites can I use on internet?

It's not just Google. There is an "Internet MSM" emerging, which will be more of a thron in our backside in 20 years than the dinosaur one.

Instead of Blogger, Typepad

Instead of Earth, NASA worldwind (Which Google Earth ripped off)

Instead of Maps, anyone elses maps, eg Bing Maps (but MS are MSNBC so...)

Instead of Youtube, Liveleak

Instead of Search, Christian Search (if you want to keep porn away from your family also) or maybe Ixquick

35 posted on 05/15/2010 6:12:52 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: STARWISE

Not sure what wireless web useage has to do with snapping pictures of streets for Google Maps...


36 posted on 05/15/2010 6:19:38 AM PDT by RockinRight (I can see November from here!)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

The thing I do like about Google is the street view - Bing’s “birds-eye” is OK but nothing is cooler than seeing places I’ve never been as if I were driving there in my car.

Damn shame that Google is doing this.


37 posted on 05/15/2010 6:23:48 AM PDT by RockinRight (I can see November from here!)
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To: STARWISE

Mistakenly?? Give me a break!


38 posted on 05/15/2010 6:24:27 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: STARWISE

Sure it was a mistake. Sure they’ll get rid of the data. Sure.


39 posted on 05/15/2010 6:45:57 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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To: ShadowAce

ping


40 posted on 05/15/2010 6:47:49 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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To: Nightshift

gnip


41 posted on 05/15/2010 6:48:13 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

42 posted on 05/15/2010 6:50:11 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
Question for the techies?

Google uses the Wi-Fi data to improve its location-based services. By having a database of Wi-Fi hot spots, Google can identify a mobile user's approximate location based on cell towers and Wi-Fi access points that are visible to their device.

Couldn't Google just ask companies where their towers are and obtain the information that way? I know I'm blonde but seems to me they could have gotten the information some other way.

43 posted on 05/15/2010 6:53:03 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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To: ShadowAce

last question....I think .Why would they also need to determine a person’s location? They know the signal strengths and how far they will carry.

Sorry I didn’t put that in my last ping to you.


44 posted on 05/15/2010 6:55:45 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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"even though we never used that data in any Google products"

What about research projects, or marketing, Do No Evil Company?

45 posted on 05/15/2010 6:58:25 AM PDT by DBrow
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This was no mistake. Is Google acting as part of Obama’s Stasi?

“Google’s CEO Gets an Official Seat at President Obama’s Table”

“The close ties between Google CEO Eric Schmidt and President Barack Obama are well-documented. Schmidt endorsed Obama’s Presidential campaign, and in the months since he has taken office, the leader of the world’s most popular search engine has also been a guest at The White House to discuss policy alongside some of the country’s top economists and financiers...”

http://mashable.com/2009/04/27/eric-schmidt-barack-obama/

46 posted on 05/15/2010 7:12:13 AM PDT by 444Flyer (We shall not be moved.)
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To: STARWISE
Google's founders have admitted to stealing new computers off a loading dock in college because they wanted to run tests on their new software and didn't 'feel' like they should have to wait like everyone else.

All of their corporate sh!ttyness stems from their beginnings: they will always suck.

47 posted on 05/15/2010 7:18:57 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (The Quran and Mein Kampf: if you've read one you've read them both.)
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To: STARWISE

mistakenly?? No. CBNC aired their “Google rules the world” show last night and they said they save every bit of data they collect from every single search query.

I doubt there was any mistake.


48 posted on 05/15/2010 7:24:42 AM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: Talisker

666 - Shit happens /s


49 posted on 05/15/2010 7:38:03 AM PDT by mmanager (I'm not racist, I don't like the white half of him either.)
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To: All
Stop Google from collecting your data.

Google Sharing addon

Optimize Google addon
50 posted on 05/15/2010 7:40:07 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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