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Could Rand Paul Be The Next Ronald Reagan?
May 15, 2010 | Pinochet

Posted on 05/15/2010 9:36:04 AM PDT by pinochet

Dr. Rand Paul, who is seeking the Republican nomination for the US Senate seat in Kentucky, is causing panic among members of the Republican establishment in Washington DC. The greatest fear that the Republican establishment has, is that an honest conservative may get elected, who actually means it when he talks of small government. The present day conservative politicians are good at rhetoric, but once they get elected, they sell out to the big corporations, banks, and special interest groups, whom they give our tax dollars.

I have not seen this level of fear in the Republican establishment, since Ronald Reagan challenged Gerald Ford for the Republican Presidential nomination in 1976. The Reagan who ran for President in 1976, was more of a hardline small-government conservative, than the Reagan who ran for President in 1980.

What is causing the beltway establishment to panic, is that Rand Paul is close to mainstream Republicans on national security issues, which makes him a more credible national figure than his father, Ron Paul. While Rand Paul supports the war in Afghanistan, he does not believe in nation-building.

What is terrifying the GOP establishment, is that he plans to get rid of the IRS, the Federal Reserve, the Department of Education, and many other federal departments. He is likely to advocate pulling the US out of the UN. He plans to cut the federal budget to the bone, and abandon the policies of bailing out the big banks, and failing corporations such as AIG.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chat; humor; ky2010; no; randpaul; reagan; ronpaul; satire; vanity
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There is nothing that the political establishment fears more, than an honest conservative who cannot be bought. If a true conservative patriot is elected, who owes nothing to the big corporations or special interest groups, he can cut the federal budget by as much as 60 percent. The corrupt establishment that controls both parties would do everything to prevent that, because there is too much money at stake. The evil globalist establishment that controls America, has a tighter grip on American politics, than the mullahs have on the Iranian people.
1 posted on 05/15/2010 9:36:04 AM PDT by pinochet
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To: pinochet

No.


2 posted on 05/15/2010 9:38:03 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: pinochet

No


3 posted on 05/15/2010 9:40:04 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (The Left draws criminals as excrement draws flies. The Left IS a criminal organization.)
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To: pinochet

Not in 1 million years.


4 posted on 05/15/2010 9:40:10 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: pinochet

“The present day conservative politicians are good at rhetoric, but once they get elected, they sell out to the....”

They sold out looooong before they were elected. The campaign consultants spend a bit of time teaching them what to say and how to say it. The candidates learn that what they learned is effective and then go find money to pay for for more campaign consultant work, and on, and on and on.


5 posted on 05/15/2010 9:40:45 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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To: pinochet
Do you think Rand Paul would have the courage or the political philosophy to compel him to tell Mr. Gorbachev to "Tear down this wall"?

Yeah, I don't either. Paul, like his father, would say that it's none of our business. So NO, Rand Paul is NOT the next Ronald Reagan.

6 posted on 05/15/2010 9:40:54 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Texas Fossil

Meaning he won’t sell out to the free traitors.


7 posted on 05/15/2010 9:41:10 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: pinochet

Rand Paul is MORE conservative than Ronaldus Maximus..


8 posted on 05/15/2010 9:41:47 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: pinochet

No. He might be the next Ron Paul though


9 posted on 05/15/2010 9:43:32 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pinochet

laughable question


10 posted on 05/15/2010 9:44:08 AM PDT by tlb
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To: pinochet
Now...what kind of question is that?


11 posted on 05/15/2010 9:44:40 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: pinochet

No.


12 posted on 05/15/2010 9:44:41 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Bless America)
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To: pinochet

BTW - The next real conservative elected president, say a Chris Christie, will have a far more profound effect than Ronald Reagan. Is is Rand Paul? Who knows?


13 posted on 05/15/2010 9:45:52 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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To: pinochet
He is like his father, so no!

Pres. Ronald Reagan was not an anti-Semite and would not associate with nuts such as truthers; etc.

14 posted on 05/15/2010 9:46:45 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: pinochet

In fairness, Ronald Reagan wasn’t the next Ronald Reagan at this point in his career.

Why not give him the benefit of the doubt?

He’s a step in the right direction from where we are now, and by that I mean, Obama, McCain, Romney, Lindsey Graham, and the rest of the “wilting violet” company.


15 posted on 05/15/2010 9:47:42 AM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: OldDeckHand

>>>>Do you think Rand Paul would have the courage or the political philosophy to compel him to tell Mr. Gorbachev to “Tear down this wall”?

What I do know, is that Rand Paul will prevent America from ending up a bankrupt country like Greece. When America becomes a broke and bankrupt nation, they will lack the financial ability to threaten anyone, and the Iranians will laugh at any American threats.


16 posted on 05/15/2010 9:47:57 AM PDT by pinochet
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To: pinochet

Rand who????


17 posted on 05/15/2010 9:51:15 AM PDT by deener
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To: pinochet
I do think that Grayson and Mitch McConnell are more big bailout, Obamacare RINOs.

Mitch McConnell should resign for how he has collaborated with Obama. His lying to James Dobson about Rand Paul was typical.
18 posted on 05/15/2010 9:52:42 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: pinochet

I can see the Liberal Globalists in the GOP squealing big time....their Soros-funded liberal globalist new world order would take a severe hit

There are some things I do not agree with the Paul’s on....but their support to pull America out of the UN, WTO, and other Globalist entities would be so beneficial for the country. And, of course, the biggest critics of the Paul’s are supporters of the UN, WTO, NAFTA, etc....which are also supported by people like Gore, Clinton, Boxer, George Soros....


19 posted on 05/15/2010 9:53:35 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com)
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To: pinochet

Nope.


20 posted on 05/15/2010 9:54:41 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: pinochet
"When America becomes a broke and bankrupt nation, they will lack the financial ability to threaten anyone, and the Iranians will laugh at any American threats."

And, with a mushroom cloud rising over NYC or DC, whatever is or isn't left in the nation's treasury becomes quickly irrelevant.

We need leaders who have the intellect and vision to recognize the lethality of America's enemies, and then posses the courage to fight them, with violence and wherever they are. If Rand is anything like his father, you'll have to color me skeptical, very very skeptical.

21 posted on 05/15/2010 9:54:50 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand
Exactly.

He can be entirely right on economic matters but when it comes to international relations he’s death - literally.

22 posted on 05/15/2010 9:59:03 AM PDT by DB
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To: OldDeckHand

I must have missed something—so Rand Paul has a tough foregin policy for dealing with worldwide jihad?


23 posted on 05/15/2010 9:59:40 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: pinochet

Did Ronald Reagan have a lunatic for a father?


24 posted on 05/15/2010 10:00:24 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: pinochet

No.


25 posted on 05/15/2010 10:00:28 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: jazminerose
'I must have missed something—so Rand Paul has a tough foregin policy for dealing with worldwide jihad?"

No, not at all. That was my point.

26 posted on 05/15/2010 10:02:02 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Allegra; BlackElk

Care to take this one ?


27 posted on 05/15/2010 10:03:09 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: pinochet

First things first, America isn’t an elected dictatorship. In some ways it may look that way, but there are checks and balances on power that keep one person from redefining the nation. It’s a folly to think that electing one strong conservative who ‘owes nothing’ to corporations or special interests will somehow roll back the last seventy years of encroaching statism. This is like trying to counteract Obama with a bizzaro-Obama. Didn’t work for bizzaro superman, didn’t work for bizzaro Kirk, won’t work here either. Rand Paul may be a good candidate for senate, but he won’t be the next Ronald Regan and shouldn’t try to be (and for all his skills and achievements, Regan couldn’t achieve those dramatic cuts in government.)

The lack of a strong central figure to counterbalance the current regime is a strength, but it won’t remain one. A groundswell of citizens who wouldn’t previously be drawn to political action will be the strength of conservatives. They have to elect - at all levels of government from the local offices up to national elections - candidates that are honest, believe in the values of the constitution, and have the courage to stand up for them when they are unpopular.

Most importantly, the groundswell must be able to sustain losses. If the predicted gains in the house in 2010 and 2012 don’t materialize in as dramatic a fashion, the grassroots activism and involvement in politics by the average American must continue. Conservatives don’t lose when they get knocked down, and to take a lesson from Regan’s loss to Ford in the ‘76 presidential primary, conservatives lose when they don’t keep getting up.


28 posted on 05/15/2010 10:05:34 AM PDT by jz638
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To: OldDeckHand

>>>>If Rand is anything like his father, you’ll have to color me skeptical, very very skeptical

Rand Paul strongly supports the war in Afghanistan. And he supports tough military action on those nations or terror groups that attack America. But he views nation-building as similar to the social engineering programs that liberals promote in America. His opposition to nation building will save America a lot of money.


29 posted on 05/15/2010 10:08:36 AM PDT by pinochet
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To: pinochet

Short answer, NO!

Republicans are fools for sitting back waiting for another Ronald Reagan. He was one of a kind and made his mistakes as well.

We should instead focus on good strong conservative candidates and stop looking for a reincarnation of Reagan. We could have someone better than Reagan.

You had a chance in 2008 fo such a man, but too many would not get behind him until others did, once again, waiting for Reagan to be reborn.

Take candidates as they are and support a strong conservative and stop thinking Reagan will return.

Doing so only let the Democrats seize total control.


30 posted on 05/15/2010 10:09:28 AM PDT by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: pinochet

No. A blame-America-first isolationist or a politician who is pro-choice for states on abortion cannot accurately be compared to Reagan.

But I’m not surprised to see this thread. If Republicans in KY elevate this man the whole country is going to have deal with many more years of the Paul family Libertarian nonsense.


31 posted on 05/15/2010 10:10:48 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Yesterday, I read everything Elena Kagan has ever published. It didn't take long..." -- Paul Campos)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Did Ronald Reagan have a lunatic for a father?

No but he did have a cynical, alcoholic, shoe salesman for a father, that would occasionally pass out in the yard.

32 posted on 05/15/2010 10:11:05 AM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: pinochet

What total BS. Why would you even post this kind of crap? What is wrong with you? What is your major malfunction?

Not just NO but HELL NO.


33 posted on 05/15/2010 10:12:03 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (DeMint 2012----Remember May 20th is "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day")
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To: pinochet

Is this a joke?


34 posted on 05/15/2010 10:13:01 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: pinochet

Try to get these people to explain why they like Trey Grayson.

Among the voters, only the pro abortion crowd supports him.


35 posted on 05/15/2010 10:13:03 AM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: pinochet

One can only hope. And contribute. (I did my part)


36 posted on 05/15/2010 10:14:13 AM PDT by shezza (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: pinochet
You forgot to put "satire" in the title.

Rand ain't no RR, not even close. He's leading in the KY Senate primary only because Trey Grayson is so inept. My only hope is that Rand is not The Next L. Ron Paul

37 posted on 05/15/2010 10:15:02 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: pinochet
"And he supports tough military action on those nations or terror groups that attack America."

Rand Paul has said that there isn't much difference between his world views and his father's world views. Things like this, are what gives me great pause.

Ron Paul Is Sole Dissenter From Resolution Supporting Iranian Protests

Ronald Reagan would NEVER vote against something like this, ever.

Because this is Paul's first opportunity to cast votes and for those votes to be recorded, no one really has any idea how he'll vote on foreign policy issues. I would much prefer to have Senators elected to office that have at least some definitive record of how that have voted, not just how they'll say they'll vote. This is why we should be VERY cautious of prospective Senators who weren't US Representatives or US Governors.

38 posted on 05/15/2010 10:15:21 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: bamahead; GeronL

Rand Paul ping. The only thing that concerns me is that he may make a major gaffe on the campaign trail.


39 posted on 05/15/2010 10:21:25 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: pinochet
Could Rand Paul Be The Next Ronald Reagan?


40 posted on 05/15/2010 10:21:50 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: OldDeckHand

That was my clumsy way of agreeing with you.


41 posted on 05/15/2010 10:22:20 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: pinochet

No.


42 posted on 05/15/2010 10:23:04 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: pinochet
No offense. . .'but' do think those who 'follow' Ron Paul, are as deluded as those who 'believe' in Obama, the messiah.

Ron Paul's associations with conspiracy theorists including the 'truthers' and extremist personalities such as Alex Jones is well documented. Of course, and as well; there can be NO correlation between Ronald Reagan's commitment to our Military - it's purpose and it's absolute necessity for the our Country's own well being and that of the 'free world' - and the total rejection of such, by Ron Paul.

Much has been written; but Calvin Freiburger does a quick summation; found at David Horowitz's 'NEWS REAL blog.' Just an excerpt below.

Of course, there is 'always' room for disagreement by 'free discourse'; but just not those enclosed in the 'facts therein'. . .and we know even 'facts' can be tricky; but think Calvin Freiburger is 'no trickster'.

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The Company the Pauls Keep

2010 May 13/Calvin Freiburger source/link: newsrealbloglink

[Calvin Freiburger is a political science major at Hillsdale College. He also writes for the Hillsdale Forum and his personal website, Calvin Freiburger Online.] Excerpt:

While most on the Right do not match the slanderous caricature of conservatism the Left has concocted, the Cult of Paul stands as the sole exception. The Pauls seem to hold themselves to no standards of moral decency or good taste in advancing their careers, welcoming and encouraging (sometimes subtly, sometimes not) hatred and paranoia in their own midst, standing up to it only when it becomes a matter of bad publicity—and even then, they can be counted on to go no further than absolutely necessary, for fear of alienating any one part of the coalition of bigots, demagogues, and conspiracy theorists they have assembled.

tags: 9/11 Truthers, Alex Jones, Anti-Semitism, Bigotry, Chris Hightower, Conservatism, Conspiracy Theories, crackpots, David Duke, extremism, Founding Fathers, George Washington, GOP, KKK, neo-Nazis, newsletters, Racism, radical associations, Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Stormfront, white supremacists

43 posted on 05/15/2010 10:24:20 AM PDT by cricket (We ARE the Truman Show)
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To: big'ol_freeper

lol!


44 posted on 05/15/2010 10:24:52 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Servant of the Cross
Trey Grayson is so inept."

It's truly disappointing that in a year that should be so attractive to potential candidates, a job as plum as a US Senate seat couldn't attract any other candidates better than these two.

Then again, KY has given us Mitch McConnell for how many decades? Maybe that is the best KY can do. It's disturbing.

45 posted on 05/15/2010 10:25:46 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: ansel12

>>>>Try to get these people to explain why they like Trey Grayson

Because the Republican establishment has told them that Grayson is a conservative. It is time that conservatives stopped listening to the Republican establishment, and start looking at what each of the candidates stands for. Dr. James Dobson, Sarah Palin, and many tea party activists, chose to think for themselves, instead of allowing the Republican establishment to think for them. That is why they endorsed Rand Paul.

Many supporters of Rand Paul do not agree with him on all issues. But they see him as an honest American patriot, who cannot be bought, and who is looking out for the long-term interests of this country. This matters a great deal to those who do not want their children to inherit a bankrupt America.


46 posted on 05/15/2010 10:28:43 AM PDT by pinochet
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To: OldDeckHand
We need leaders who have the intellect and vision to recognize the lethality of America's enemies, and then posses the courage to fight them, with violence and wherever they are.

Would that be leaders like GWB?

47 posted on 05/15/2010 10:30:24 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (I've been ionized, but I'm okay now.)
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To: pinochet

I haven’t followed Rand Paul’s campaign, but I often hear him discussed as if his views are practically identical to his father’s. Does anyone know of any major political differences he has from his father’s views?


48 posted on 05/15/2010 10:30:33 AM PDT by Will88
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To: pinochet

Rand Paul will NEVER get a vote from me.

As for him being the next Reagan, get in line Rand. You’re not the next American Idol bud. You’re pitchy, your vocals sound like Karaoki, and your song selection is pitiful about 25% of the time.


49 posted on 05/15/2010 10:31:20 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Excusaholic: MeCain lost to Jr., RINO endorsements are flying, & you live at 2012 Denial Blvd.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

bump


50 posted on 05/15/2010 10:32:27 AM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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