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KY-Sen. 2010: In Senate race in Kentucky, the son also rises; 'Tea party' buoys Rand Paul's bid
The Washington Times ^ | 2010-05-14 | David Eldridge

Posted on 05/15/2010 9:41:22 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Just days before the party primaries in Kentucky, outsider Senate candidate Rand Paul holds a double-digit lead over Secretary of State Trey Grayson, the "establishment" Republican anointed by the GOP's Washington leadership - including Senate minority leader and fellow Kentuckian Mitch McConnell.

The race is the latest test of the strength of the anti-Washington sentiment fueling insurgent campaigns like Mr. Paul's across the country - and would be a bitter rebuke for Mr. McConnell from the state party he helped build.

Mr. McConnell and Texas Sen. John Cornyn, head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, strongly backed Mr. Grayson in the race to replace retiring Republican Sen. Jim Bunning. But Mr. Paul, a Bowling Green ophthalmologist, has emerged from the state's powerful "tea party" movement as the candidate to beat.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: ky2010; lping; randpaul; realconservatives; ronpaul; teapartyrebellion
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1 posted on 05/15/2010 9:41:23 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: bamahead; Bokababe; dcwusmc

fyi


2 posted on 05/15/2010 9:41:39 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

Hey Rabs, are you ever going to admit that maybe Sarah has had something to do with Rand Paul’s success as well?


3 posted on 05/15/2010 9:47:45 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

That doesn’t change the fact that she endorsed multiple RINOs (McCain, Fiorina) and her PAC is helping others (Graham, Hatch, Murkowski).


4 posted on 05/15/2010 9:49:28 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

When Palin endorsed Rand Paul, I started visiting the Kentucky Senate race threads here.

After a month or so of seeing nothing against Rand except for name association and innuendo (and no defence of Trey Grayson) I came to think that Palin knew what she was doing in what seemed like a strange choice at first.

At this late date, as we have seen Trey self destruct into pettiness and reverting back to his Bill Clinton days, the choice of Rand seems like a rock solid choice, especially since people like Jim DeMint, Jim Bunning and James Dobson have joined in endorsing Rand.


5 posted on 05/15/2010 9:53:04 PM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: rabscuttle385
That doesn’t change the fact that she endorsed multiple RINOs (McCain, Fiorina) and her PAC is helping others (Graham, Hatch, Murkowski).

That really isn't the point now, is it.

You can't bring yourself to say one nice thing about her!

Way too funny!

Ha ha ha!
6 posted on 05/15/2010 9:53:13 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: ansel12

Rand Paul is all right. We need some anti-establishment types up there.


7 posted on 05/15/2010 9:58:09 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: rabscuttle385
That doesn’t change the fact that she endorsed multiple RINOs (McCain, Fiorina) and her PAC is helping others (Graham, Hatch, Murkowski).

So Rabs, what do you think of these endorsements by Sarah?

1. Nikki Haley
2. Michelle Bachmann
3. Scott Brown
4. Doug Hoffman
5. Rand Paul
6. Marco Rubio
7. Chris Christie
8. Bob McDonnell
9. Sean Duffy
8 posted on 05/15/2010 10:00:24 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: rabscuttle385
That doesn’t change the fact that she endorsed multiple RINOs (McCain, Fiorina) and her PAC is helping others (Graham, Hatch, Murkowski).

McCain chose Governor Palin for his Vice President slot. Even if the guy has done nothing else of value in his entire career, Palin kinda has to endorse him for that reason alone -- considering that she was the beneficiary thereof.

I don't like the Fiorina endorsement either, of course DeVore would be preferable by far; but at this point, in the California Primary, my favorite candidate is "Anybody But Campbell". Palin's trying to beat Campbell; even if I disagree with her tactics, I certainly understand the sentiment.

But if you're going to rake Palin over the coals for having endorsed a few moderate Republicans (which she's probably going to do, if she's trying to build a Palin Coalition for 2012), it seems to me that you should give her credit for her more Conservative/Constitutionalist endorsements also. Rand Paul certainly qualifies.

9 posted on 05/15/2010 10:09:22 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: rabscuttle385
Mr. McConnell and Texas Sen. John Cornyn, head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, strongly backed Mr. Grayson in the race

Interesting that everyone is keeping Dick Cheney out of this race, he endorsed Trey Grayson.

This race also led me to confront my doubts about Dick Cheney, a guy that I liked all these years, until I found out about his gay agenda politics. Dick Cheney's endorsement meant nothing. Trey already wins the support of the anti-social conservatives.

I really admire his (Cheney's) strength with the media and in debates, but in this race, he carried no weight with me, and evidently with no one else.

10 posted on 05/15/2010 10:12:10 PM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ansel12

Cheney and Laura Bush are huge disappointments of late. I was a big Cheney fan for many years.

Sarah is all we have. I despise McCain. But she really couldn’t do anything else.


11 posted on 05/15/2010 10:16:49 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Luke21

I feel exactly the same.


12 posted on 05/15/2010 10:21:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: SoConPubbie

You can now ad Susana Martinez of New Mexico to your list of Palin supported RINOs /sarc

Just posted by Sarah:

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=389594173434


13 posted on 05/15/2010 10:24:17 PM PDT by curth (Sarah Palin: 1.5M Facebook fans. "I'm In For $15 - Donate $15 to Sarahpac to celebrate!)
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To: curth
You can now ad Susana Martinez of New Mexico to your list of Palin supported RINOs /sarc

Thanks, I was just waiting until she made it official.
14 posted on 05/15/2010 10:30:17 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Luke21; ansel12
Cheney and Laura Bush are huge disappointments of late. I was a big Cheney fan for many years.

Same here.

I wonder if GWB's positions on the same issues were sincere?

For now I am choosing to believe they are.

If they are, I imagine they probably had some lively discussions concerning both Abortion and Gay Marriage.
15 posted on 05/15/2010 10:31:55 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Christian_Capitalist; rabscuttle385

Rabs,

I have an honest question for you.

If a conservative POTUS candidate adds a moderate to RINO VP, would you run away from the POTUS candidate?


16 posted on 05/15/2010 10:33:27 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
I wonder if GWB's positions on the same issues were sincere?

I was going to say that I seriously question why a man that can win 60 million votes on an issue, can't persuade his wife to agree with him on it, but then I remembered Reagan, and I also remembered that I am divorced.

I just don't know how that works in a relationship like that, sometimes I wonder if a lot of rich people lack true passion about such ideas, and that part of their success is based on moderation and non confrontation on matters of conscience.

17 posted on 05/15/2010 10:40:42 PM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: SoConPubbie

It didn’t help McCain did it...

Nor did the Palin family endorsement of Tarkanian in Nevada help.

This is about the Tea Party movement not Palin.


18 posted on 05/15/2010 10:40:53 PM PDT by theanchoragedailyruse
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To: SoConPubbie; rabscuttle385

I believe that what drives Rabs, is that he is a Ron Paul man all the way and Palin is an obstacle to Paul as a presidential candidate, social conservatism may play a role also.


19 posted on 05/15/2010 10:45:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: SoConPubbie; rabscuttle385
You can't bring yourself to say one nice thing about her!

It's been 1/2 hour and still no nice or positive comment about Palin....

"I see your true color shining thru. Straight up, I can see thru you. I see your true color shining thru..."

20 posted on 05/15/2010 10:46:05 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (We need a Commander-in-Chief, not a professor of Law standing at the lectern-Palin 2010)
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To: theanchoragedailyruse
Nor did the Palin family endorsement of Tarkanian in Nevada help.

What is a "Palin family endorsement" ?

21 posted on 05/15/2010 10:46:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: theanchoragedailyruse
It didn’t help McCain did it...

Nor did the Palin family endorsement of Tarkanian in Nevada help.

This is about the Tea Party movement not Palin.


True, but did you really think she was going to please everyone?

Did you really think she was not going to make mistakes?

Did you really think that all of her endorsements were going to be winners?

Real leaders take risks, they don't play it safe.

Real leaders make mistakes, take for instance, Ronald Reagan and his Amnesty.

But the real difference between Governor Palin and the rest of the potential POTUS candidates for 2012, is that she is a real leader.

And those two flubs of endorsements not withstanding, the overwhelming majority of her endorsements and almost 100% of her policy positions are conservative.
22 posted on 05/15/2010 10:48:18 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: ansel12
just don't know how that works in a relationship like that, sometimes I wonder if a lot of rich people lack true passion about such ideas, and that part of their success is based on moderation and non confrontation on matters of conscience.

I think that is a pretty good assessment.
23 posted on 05/15/2010 10:50:38 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: ansel12

http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ralstons-flash/2009/nov/03/sarah-palins-family-loves-danny-tarkanian/

Sarah Palin’s family loves Danny Tarkanian!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2514437/posts

STUNNING: Tea Party Backed Republican Jumps 35% in 1 Month!

Angle has risen to second place with 25 percent, [Sue] Lowden is first with 30 percent, and [Danny] Tarkanian continues to fade with 22 percent.


24 posted on 05/15/2010 10:53:16 PM PDT by theanchoragedailyruse
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To: theanchoragedailyruse

That is an endorsement by Heath Palin, Sarah’s retired school employee father, why try to get that involved with big time politics, the Kentucky Senate race and Governor Palin?


25 posted on 05/15/2010 10:58:45 PM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: SoConPubbie

Well, I don’t think GWB and Laura ever discussed such issues at all, just not a priority on their radar screen.


26 posted on 05/15/2010 10:59:37 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: ansel12

The Palin brand is losing its luster and the fact that Rand is leading has nothing to do with Palin.

If that was the case, then McCain would be killing Hayworth in AZ.

And it will be a wait and see on how Fiorina fairs in CA.


27 posted on 05/15/2010 11:05:33 PM PDT by theanchoragedailyruse
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To: Luke21

Cheney and Laura Bush are huge disappointments of late.”

Laura Bush’s support of Kegan is alarming! So she thinks it would be great to have three women on the Supreme Court. But not this woman.


28 posted on 05/15/2010 11:09:28 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: theanchoragedailyruse

The “Palin brand” is Governor Palin, not Heath.

If you want to bitch about something, quit playing games and just say you don’t like the woman, don’t make us wade through stuff like that Nevada involving her dad. I had to look that up to find out what you were trying to make up.


29 posted on 05/15/2010 11:10:42 PM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: theanchoragedailyruse; ansel12
The Palin brand is losing its luster and the fact that Rand is leading has nothing to do with Palin.

If that was the case, then McCain would be killing Hayworth in AZ.

And it will be a wait and see on how Fiorina fairs in CA.


Really?

Then why is she selling out every venue she shows up to?

And she is on the road every day right now.
30 posted on 05/15/2010 11:11:18 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: theanchoragedailyruse; ansel12
The Palin brand is losing its luster and the fact that Rand is leading has nothing to do with Palin.

If that was the case, then McCain would be killing Hayworth in AZ.


By what objective measure?

Your opinion?

Your funny!

Your logic is flawed as well.

Every report that is out there says that once Sarah gets involved, the fundraising goes through the roof and she draws in large crowds whenever she endorses someone.

Good luck trying to prove your point with evidence.
31 posted on 05/15/2010 11:13:30 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: theanchoragedailyruse

Is there something about this Kentucky Senate race that you don’t want people to talk about?

Why are you on this thread if you don’t have any interest in it?


32 posted on 05/15/2010 11:14:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: SoConPubbie

Why is she slipping in polls?

I’m sure Obama can fill a venue and also sell a ton of books.

Where is he at in relationship to an Obama-Palin matchup?

And when you consider Obama has such lousy numbers and Palin is close, people aren’t that happy with either.


33 posted on 05/15/2010 11:15:23 PM PDT by theanchoragedailyruse
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To: ansel12

I’m making a point to the comments that Palin is the reason for the Tea Party season.

She isn’t, this is about the Tea Party movement.

You Palinbots are the ones making the Tea Party movement the Palin movement.


34 posted on 05/15/2010 11:17:36 PM PDT by theanchoragedailyruse
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To: SoConPubbie

Those are great but:

Queeg?...ok...married to him he brung her so to speak

Fiorina?...pragmatic choice...i”m ambivalent

but Lindsey Graham?

help me work through that one

I fail to see her logic on that one...he rather epitomizes what is wrong


35 posted on 05/15/2010 11:18:34 PM PDT by wardaddy (never been particularly pious but I stand with Franklin Graham...bigtime...you betcha...ya'll)
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To: theanchoragedailyruse
Why is she slipping in polls?

I’m sure Obama can fill a venue and also sell a ton of books.

Where is he at in relationship to an Obama-Palin matchup?

And when you consider Obama has such lousy numbers and Palin is close, people aren’t that happy with either.


Boy is your logic weak.

We're over 2 years from the 2012 election for goodness sake and you are quoting polls to support your position?

Do you know that maybe 3 months before the 80' POTUS election, Ronald Reagan was down 30 points?

And the polls, which are posted here on FreeRepublic, are all over the place.

And for her to be basically neck and neck with Obama shows the amazing strength she has both in the GOP and with independents and some Democrats after the Media has done an all out assault on her character.

Your going to have to come up with some more convincing evidence or logic to prove your point that her brand is fading.

Pretty weak!
36 posted on 05/15/2010 11:20:32 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

I just did, with the polling data on races she endorsed or her brand was used to endorse the non-Tea Party candidate.

It will be interesting to see what happens in CA.


37 posted on 05/15/2010 11:21:16 PM PDT by theanchoragedailyruse
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To: wardaddy
but Lindsey Graham?

help me work through that one

I fail to see her logic on that one...he rather epitomizes what is wrong


Not sure about that one.

From what I've read on FreeRepublic, it was more like a repayment of, or contribution in kind, since Gramnesty contributed to her PAC first.
38 posted on 05/15/2010 11:21:48 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

She is no Ronald Reagan...


39 posted on 05/15/2010 11:22:07 PM PDT by theanchoragedailyruse
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To: wardaddy

Palin has never endorsed Lindsey Graham.


40 posted on 05/15/2010 11:22:42 PM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: theanchoragedailyruse
I just did, with the polling data on races she endorsed or her brand was used to endorse the non-Tea Party candidate.

It will be interesting to see what happens in CA.


No you didn't.

Like all of your posts tonight that i've seen, they are long on theory, conjecture and opinion and lacking in logic or evidence.

But keep patting yourself on the back, I'm sure another PDS Sufferer will be along to congratulate you on your sound reason.
41 posted on 05/15/2010 11:23:51 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: theanchoragedailyruse
She is no Ronald Reagan...

ANd you are no judge of character.
42 posted on 05/15/2010 11:24:19 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

it would be very nice is she fails to support him when he comes up again in 2014

it may not be relevant again by then or it could be very relevant if she holds national office...


43 posted on 05/15/2010 11:24:27 PM PDT by wardaddy (never been particularly pious but I stand with Franklin Graham...bigtime...you betcha...ya'll)
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To: theanchoragedailyruse
Why is she slipping in polls?

SO post some polls to prove your point.

I'll post mine and prove my point that they are all over the place.

Some have her tied with Obama or a couple of percentage points below her.

Which is simply amazing given the crap the media has given her.
44 posted on 05/15/2010 11:26:03 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Certainly I am. She is no Ronald Reagan, he is dead...

There will never be another Ronald Reagan.


45 posted on 05/15/2010 11:26:51 PM PDT by theanchoragedailyruse
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To: wardaddy
it would be very nice is she fails to support him when he comes up again in 2014

It would.

I think the only support he has given her is contributing to his PAC.

I'm pretty sure she didn't endorse him.
46 posted on 05/15/2010 11:26:53 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: theanchoragedailyruse
or her brand was used

Family members do not share in the brand of prominent politicians when it comes to formal endorsements.

A Ronald Reagan endorsement was just that, family members were not a part of that formal endorsement "brand".

47 posted on 05/15/2010 11:28:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (MITT: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: SoConPubbie

Being tied with Obama is not a lofty position to be in since his approvals are lousy.

That is like saying she is tied with Hitler;)


48 posted on 05/15/2010 11:28:36 PM PDT by theanchoragedailyruse
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To: ansel12
Palin has never endorsed Lindsey Graham.

never said she did...follow the context between SoCal and Rabs starting with post 4

49 posted on 05/15/2010 11:28:42 PM PDT by wardaddy (never been particularly pious but I stand with Franklin Graham...bigtime...you betcha...ya'll)
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To: SoConPubbie
She gave $1,000 to Graham as part of an initial group of donations when the PAC was getting underway and they had to make a minimum number of donations to meet the requirements of a multi-candidate PAC. Politico ran a story on it.

She's made no public statements of support for Graham other than to thank him for his support during the '08 campaign.

50 posted on 05/15/2010 11:28:45 PM PDT by Al B.
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