Posted on 05/16/2010 4:50:27 PM PDT by combat_boots
Here’s a theory we’d love your help researching.
Last night, we were all talking about the crazy amount of mail everyone’s received about the 2010 Census. We don’t remember this much mail in 2000, or in 1990, the other two censuses we were aware enough to take note of.
The Census mailed letters advising Americans a census was happening. Then, the government sent letters asking if the first letters were received. It seems letters were sent informing the public that more letters would be coming telling them to expect letters that would give further details about expecting more letters, and what to do if they needed more letters to read while the other letters were still being delivering.
Now, there are letters coming to follow up on each of the previous letters.
That’s an awful lot of postage.
Hey — wasn’t the USPS recently complaining that it was insolvent and imploding as an institution?
Were all of the letters the Census sent out a scam for Democrats to funnel Census-dedicated money into the USPS, by way of a massive infusion of postage?
Who was the recipient of all the printing costs that went into those letters?
Having mailings on that scale printed is NOT cheap. In perspective, to do a relatively small mailing for a private event here in Chicago to about 1,000 people or so, it would easily be $1,500 or more. Writing the letter, proofing it, printing it, stuffing it, stamping it, sending it out. It’s a LOT of money.
Hence the popularity of email lists.
Who got the contract to send out all those Census letters?
How much did the USPS make off the Census mailings?
Why were so many letters needed in the first place, if they weren’t intended as some sort of pork barrel graft for interested parties?
Can anyone shed some light on this?
I know I got about six pieces of mail AFTER I sent the first one in.
Plus a personal visit.
Plus a phone call.
combat_boots - How much cash do you suppose the USPS pulled down w/ those phone calls and personal visits?
Persevero - is you locale one that is ripe for redistricting?
“How much cash do you suppose the USPS pulled down w/ those phone calls and personal visits?”
Don’t know, but it might be enough to rebuild part of Nashville.
Don’t know, but it might be enough to rebuild part of Nashville.
Or fund NASA for a Mars launch!! Well, provided they can do it w/ $0.
The USPS doesn't do either one. Did you not get that the question was rhetorical?
“Rural people without rural delivery live within about half a mile of a non-city delivery post office.’
Baloney
Yeah. I got it.
I was in a really good mood until I started watching the telethon for the flood victims. Now, I’m getting a bit angry, just thinking that speaking about anything not approved by DC, NYC or Hollyweird is verboten. Ticks me off.
“No doubt you think you are fighting some sort of battle on behalf of something, but what it is remains unclear to anyone ~ probably not even to yourself.”
Well I can come up with two reasons.
1) The fundamental right to privacy guaranteed under the Bill of Rights. We do not feel it is the governments business to know our racial or ethnic background. We do not protest being counted, but the way we are being counted.
2) To protest the government give-aways determined by the census results to specific ethnic groups only because of the color of their skin and not because of a racially unbiased economic need.
Agree completely.
At least they are asking for help instead of taking the money and spending it ineffectively (katrina).
“Persevero - is you locale one that is ripe for redistricting?”
I don’t know - I live in Nancy Pelosi’s district, heaven help me.
Are we ripe for redistricting? I hope so!
Census mailings were massive...but miniscule compared to the mail the USPS receives and delivers.
A drop in the bucket.
The Original Intent was to check out your race.
Sure they do ~ or, they can put a box on the line of travel of a rural letter carrier who is going to be closer to them than the nearest town with a post office.
I don’t think so and here’s why.
This admin transferred the administration of the census from the commerce dept to the white house. The current occupants of the white house think that the American populace are a bunch of idiots. Plus the results of the census will show what they want it to be. The USPS is just another federal agency that gets their funding from congress. They have to do what they are told.
A neighbor informed me a lady from the census came by the other day and since I wasn't home, she asked him a few questions about me.
Now he told me all he told her was my first name and he pronounced (to the best of his ability) my family name. I come from a Polish house hold and my family name is pronounced very differently from the way its spelled and via a versa.
He basically told her 1 person in the house and that's about it.
What I want to know is (and I can't find it ANYWHERE on the net), what exactly are the 10 questions asked for on the 2010 census? What is it a big secret until one is approuched by a census worker?
I remember the 2000 census and the questions this dude asked were very intrusive to say the least. This guy was asking how much money I made, what my socialist insecurity number was, if I was married, how many kids, bla, bla, bla?
My father was alive then and living with me and he started to answer these questions. I went into the house and got my camera and came back out and took pictures of this dude and informed him there were only two male living at the house and for him to depart.
He did and that was the end if it until now.
I haven't received anything in the mail concerning the U.S. census and before I get cornered by anyone claiming to be a census worker I want to know exactly what I'm up against. So does anyone know what the hell are these questions are?
“2010 census short-form questions
April 29, 2010|By Diane C. Lade, Sun Sentinel
Ten questions are included in the 2010 census short form, which will be asked by census takers going door to door beginning Saturday. Some questions require respondents to pick from multiple choices.
Questions 5 through 10 must be answered for each person in the household.
Question 1: How many people were living or staying in this house, apartment or mobile home April 1, 2010?
Question 2: Were there any additional people staying here April 1, 2010, who you did not include in Question 1? (Choices include roommates, relatives, newborns and others.)
Question 3: Is this house, apartment or mobile home owned by you or someone in this household with a mortgage or loan? Owned by you or someone in this household free and clear? Rented? Occupied without payment or rent?
Question 4: What is your telephone number?
Question 5: Please provide information for each person living here. Start with a person living here who owns or rents this house, apartment or mobile home. If the owner or renter lives elsewhere, start with any adult living here. This will be person 1.
What is person 1’s name?
Question 6: What is person 1’s sex?
Question 7: What is person 1’s age and what is person 1’s date of birth?
Question 8: Is person 1 of Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin?
Question 9: What is person 1’s race?
Question 10: Does person 1 sometimes live or stay somewhere else? (Choices include college or military housing, a nursing home and others).”
“2010 census short-form questions April 29, 2010|By Diane C. Lade, Sun Sentinel."
"Ten questions are included in the 2010 census short form, which will be asked by census takers going door to door beginning Saturday. Some questions require respondents to pick from multiple choices."
"Questions 5 through 10 must be answered for each person in the household."
“Question 1: How many people were living or staying in this house, apartment or mobile home April 1, 2010?”
>>> That sounds like a standard and legitimate question.
"Question 2: Were there any additional people staying here April 1, 2010, who you did not include in Question 1? (Choices include roommates, relatives, newborns and others.)"
>>> That is a little ambiguous don’t you think? One would assume (ass-u-me) they mean a renter or such but, it can also be an intrusive question. If I had a girl friend staying with me for a few months or so, its none of the governments damned business. What if I had a relative who had fallen on hard times and stayed with me for a few months, again, none of the government’s damned business.
"Question 3: Is this house, apartment or mobile home owned by you or someone in this household with a mortgage or loan? Owned by you or someone in this household free and clear? Rented? Occupied without payment or rent?"
>>> What kind of a question is this and what does that have to do with a head count?
"Question 4: What is your telephone number?"
>>> Uhhhh? What does that have to with anything? What are they gonna inundate me with stupid and more intrusive questions or am I gonna get bothered by the likes of ACORN and other @ssholes?
"Question 5: Please provide information for each person living here. Start with a person living here who owns or rents this house, apartment or mobile home. If the owner or renter lives elsewhere, start with any adult living here. This will be person 1."
>>> Again what does any of this have to do with a head count?
"What is person 1’s name?"
>>> Sounds more like rat thy neighbor, friend, relative out then a head count. What no questions about how tall they are, how much they weigh, what color is their eyes or how, about a picture? Also a really nice and stealthy way to keep track of everyone's movements?
"Question 6: What is person 1’s sex?"
>>> Again, irrelevant!
"Question 7: What is person 1’s age and what is person 1’s date of birth?"
>>> Irrelevant!
"Question 8: Is person 1 of Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin?"
>>> Irrelevant!
<>Question 9: What is person 1’s race?
>>> Irrelevant!
"Question 10: Does person 1 sometimes live or stay somewhere else? (Choices include college or military housing, a nursing home and others).”
>>> Again, irrelevant!
All of these could have been condensed into one simple question. How many people live in the house? The rest of the questions are intrusive and are none of Big Brothers business.
People are gonna get used to these personal and intrusive questions. I’ll wager the next census will be even more intrusive and the sheeple being used to being asked personal questions will yet again fall into line like sheep being led to slaughter.
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