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$500K device may have prevented oil spill
Orlando Independent Examiner ^ | May 2, 2010 | Gregory Patin

Posted on 05/16/2010 5:07:07 PM PDT by mtnwmn

Yes, that's correct...a device that costs one half million dollars may have prevented what is on track to become the worst oil spill in U.S. history.

The device is called an acoustic trigger (aka. acoustic switch, actuator). It is a remote-controlled device deployed off oil rigs that sends acoustic impulses through the water, triggering an underwater valve or explosives to shut down the well even if the rig is catastrophically damaged or abandoned.

All offshore rigs have one main switch to shut off the flow of oil by closing a valve located on the ocean floor. There is also supposed to be a backup called a “dead man,” that will shut down the well in the event of a catastrophe on the rig.

Apparently neither of these devices worked on the Deepwater Horizon rig operated by British Petroleum (BP). The crew members who would have been closest to the shutoff switch are among those missing and presumed dead. If the rig was equipped with an acoustic trigger, it would have been a last resort option and could have been activated from a remote location.

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1 posted on 05/16/2010 5:07:07 PM PDT by mtnwmn
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To: mtnwmn

So why did the Obama administration not require them to have this device? What good is government if it doesn’t do anything?


2 posted on 05/16/2010 5:08:30 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

“So why did the Obama administration not require them to have this device? What good is government if it doesn’t do anything?”

Instead of buying the 500K device BP donated the money to Obama’s campaign and obtained a waiver of the environmental impact statement from the Obama administration. That’s how our government pretends to work.


3 posted on 05/16/2010 5:11:32 PM PDT by devere
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To: devere

POST OF THE DAY.


4 posted on 05/16/2010 5:13:20 PM PDT by omega4179 (www.jdforsenate.com)
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To: devere

They donated the price of TWO!

LLS


5 posted on 05/16/2010 5:15:31 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: mtnwmn

If the other devices failed to trigger it, I kind of doubt a remote control device would have. The problem was probably with the shut off device, not the switch.


6 posted on 05/16/2010 5:18:54 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: mtnwmn

Business involves weighing risks. You weigh the odds of not spending the half a million against the risk of major costs if something goes wrong. Well, something went wrong this time and BP lost their bet. By saving %500,000 they’re going to pay out billions.


7 posted on 05/16/2010 5:22:04 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Brilliant
So why did the Obama administration not require them to have this device? What good is government if it doesn’t do anything?

The drill rig had been in service since 2001-2002. It's never been required to have one.

8 posted on 05/16/2010 5:25:32 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: mtnwmn

How about a little test here re examiner.com. When I view their links I see Milwaukee Examiner. Others see the same articles but with locations close to them.

Examiner.com reads IP addys and customizes your view. That is deceptive imo.


9 posted on 05/16/2010 5:26:12 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: mtnwmn
Read the last couple of lines above...think about sabotage...dead men tell no tales..

Let's have the names of all who died and where they were at the time of the explosion.

The big boys were on board...this was a planned day...perfect for sabotage

10 posted on 05/16/2010 5:29:07 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Yes, yes... But I like pointing out the failings of government. Obama is the one who’s arguing that we need more regulation. What’s wrong with the regulations we’ve got? They can mandate that they have this device, if they want to do so. Dick Cheney did not stop them from doing so. It was their own damn fault that they did not. Why am I paying tax dollars for these incompetents if they are not going to do anything?


11 posted on 05/16/2010 5:31:54 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
So why did the Obama administration not require them to have this device? What good is government if it doesn’t do anything?

Obama's crew didn't even address the permit process...as PER gov't requirements.

What damn good is a requirement if... IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF

12 posted on 05/16/2010 5:33:34 PM PDT by antivenom (OBASTARD must become a "Half Term President" * Impeach the anti-Constitution Bastard!)
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To: mtnwmn
Acoustic triggers would not have worked because the Blowout Preventer failed. This is the Left's talking point to blame Cheney and Bush for not requiring them. Their effectiveness is uncertain, the UK doesn't not require them but BP used them anyway in the UK and could have used one in the Gulf. ROVs are required in the US, and were used.

Meanwhile, BP gave more to Obama than any other candidate in the past 20 years, received exemptions from the Obama admin and lobbied for wider exemptions before the spill. After the spill, the Obama admin gave BP approval for two projects without exemptions. MMS regularly inspected the rig and could have increased requirements AT ANY TIME.

This rests squarely on the Obama admin. "Blame Bush" won't work.

13 posted on 05/16/2010 5:34:16 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: Jean S

I’m seeing “Detroit”.


14 posted on 05/16/2010 5:36:44 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Brilliant

Think of gun laws...how they NEVER enforce the current ones...they just lay out more...

WHAT if “illegal aliens” once apprehended were SENT home...

WHAT IF...big mattresses were required to be on the underside of airplanes to help prevent bumpy landings...


15 posted on 05/16/2010 5:37:20 PM PDT by antivenom (OBASTARD must become a "Half Term President" * Impeach the anti-Constitution Bastard!)
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To: Sacajaweau; Grampa Dave; Ernest_at_the_Beach; thackney; Dog Gone; tubebender; BOBTHENAILER
You are so right!!!

Now look what BP has gone and done!!!

"May you live in interesting times and come to the attention of powerful people!" (ancient asiatic curse)

16 posted on 05/16/2010 5:40:05 PM PDT by SierraWasp ("Contempt of Congress" used to be a minor crime. Now it's a badge of honor!!!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Well, they spent millions on devices, and backup devices, and backups to the backup devices... that all failed. Just because someone who makes a ~competing~ sort of preventer wants to use this occasion to get some free press time... doesn’t mean that they’re right or that it would’ve been a better decision to go with their device instead of whatever was there.


17 posted on 05/16/2010 5:40:06 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: mtnwmn

This is nothing more than a sensor, not a valve, which would send a signal to a valve.

It looks like it was the valve that failed, so this sensor would have been usless.


18 posted on 05/16/2010 5:40:58 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: Non-Sequitur
NS, You stated: "By saving $500,000 they’re going to pay out billions."

The article is poorly written and is easily misunderstood or purposefully misleading. The article states:

Apparently neither of these devices worked on the Deepwater Horizon rig operated by British Petroleum

If they "did not work", then they were part of the well head BOP system and failed to work as designed or intended. So BP supplied them, thus the statement of their saving money would not be true.

19 posted on 05/16/2010 5:42:11 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: DuncanWaring

I don’t like it, it’s deceptive.


20 posted on 05/16/2010 5:45:01 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

This piece is obviously a dem talking point....if you “search” the article’s topic you get the same article over and over again. I want to know what part is true, and what part is fiction. Did Cheney have this secret meeting, etc.?


21 posted on 05/16/2010 5:46:32 PM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: antivenom

This is an enforcement issue, though. It’s already illegal for a felon to possess a gun. The question is whether you’re going to enforce that law. I say we should.


22 posted on 05/16/2010 5:47:01 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: mtnwmn
This piece is obviously a dem talking point....if you “search” the article’s topic you get the same article over and over again. I want to know what part is true, and what part is fiction. Did Cheney have this secret meeting, etc.?

You posted this to find out if Cheney was involved in a secret meeting?

B.S.

You're trolling.

23 posted on 05/16/2010 5:52:56 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: antivenom

Ooops... sorry man. You mentioned gun control while I was posting on the “gun control” thread. I mixed up my threads. Yeah, I agree with you. I’m not trying to accomplish anything here other than to point out that government doesn’t work. So more government is not going to work better.

It’s sort of like financial reform. We’ve had financial regulation in this country since the 1930’s. If they haven’t made it work by now, then they aren’t going to fix it with more of the same.


24 posted on 05/16/2010 5:53:04 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: SierraWasp; SouthTexas

Lots of would-a, could-a, should-a going on here...


25 posted on 05/16/2010 6:02:29 PM PDT by tubebender ( I don't suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it...)
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To: SierraWasp; Grampa Dave

How dare BP go and fix something that Broke Insane Yomama and his gov’t rocket scientists were gettin’ ready to show us their expertise on.


26 posted on 05/16/2010 6:02:41 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (makes me wanna holler)
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To: Brilliant

Root Cause of theis accident...is that the FEDS had control of the WHOLE process...from beginning to failure...

THEY leased the area to BP, BP was to prepare certain paperwork...the feds waived it, along with many many MANY more drillers.

NOW start asking YOURSELF and your friends...”what about the Chinese and Russian drillers” in the GoM...

WHO did “THEY” payoff??? Have they been THOROUGHLY checked for “good BOP systems” that have redundant backup????

ME THINKS...

NO...HELL NO...

BP has many years of experience in the North Sea and GoM...Chinese and Russians...don’t!!!


27 posted on 05/16/2010 6:08:40 PM PDT by antivenom (OBASTARD must become a "Half Term President" * Impeach the anti-Constitution Bastard!)
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To: mtnwmn

Its not an “oil spill”... I wish people would stop calling it that. Nothing was spilled, natural oil is leaking from a yes a man made oil well, but what is leaking is natural oil not man made oil like from a refinary. If a tanker sank and cracked in half, and refined oil spilled, then yes that would be an oil spill. Just sayin...


28 posted on 05/16/2010 6:14:40 PM PDT by VastRWCon
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To: Jean S

You’re delusional.


29 posted on 05/16/2010 6:21:56 PM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: mtnwmn

No, I am calling you out on your reason for posting this tripe.


30 posted on 05/16/2010 6:25:16 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: tubebender
Lots of would-a, could-a, should-a going on here...

True, but I'm still stunned that any and all off shore drilling companies don't have a remedy in place for a worst case scenario such as this.
31 posted on 05/16/2010 6:30:22 PM PDT by demkicker (Helping Democrats Become Extinct)
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To: Brilliant

the only thing this government does is work for the socialists


32 posted on 05/16/2010 6:36:32 PM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: demkicker
...a remedy in place for a worst case scenario...

When the "drilling companies" come up with this remedy I hope that they share it with the aircraft/airline companies, mining operations, stock market and any others who occasionally have something like a worst case scenario.

33 posted on 05/16/2010 6:42:55 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: mtnwmn
$500K device MAY have prevented oil spill

May is the key word. The cause of the failure is still unknown so any talk of how it could have been prevented is pure speculation.

34 posted on 05/16/2010 6:48:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: TigersEye

Examiner is a bunch of people writing whatever to get page views.


35 posted on 05/16/2010 6:54:14 PM PDT by mainsail that (Vote Obama: Get 15 salaries and retire at 45!)
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To: TigersEye

BP is not an American headquarted in the US, it is in London. So, I am surprised that a non-US company gets to drill but ours don’t. And even further, how does a foreign corporation get to donate to a presidential campaign?


36 posted on 05/16/2010 6:55:33 PM PDT by Cyclone59 (I ROCK, Guitar Hero said so........)
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To: Always Right

Yep. The device itself failed.


37 posted on 05/16/2010 7:01:06 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Cyclone59
I don't know. I thought it was treason to take campaign contributions from foreign sources but ever since Clintoon got away with taking cash from China the practice seems to have grown.

A country that doesn't hang or shoot its traitors ends up ruled by them.

38 posted on 05/16/2010 7:11:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: mainsail that

I know. Some Examiner articles are good though. This one is just repeating the same template the MSM outlets are pushing.


39 posted on 05/16/2010 7:13:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: mtnwmn
Lots of specualtion as to possible problems or causes for the disaster...

Gulf of Mexico oil spill caused by string of human, mechanical errors: reports

A cascade of human and mechanical failures likely caused last month's deadly offshore rig explosion and an undersea oil gusher that could be the worst U.S. environmental disaster, according to data gathered by congressional investigators and reviewed by experts.


40 posted on 05/16/2010 7:32:03 PM PDT by deport
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To: tubebender

The BOP failed, not the signal. Another signal would have done no good.


41 posted on 05/16/2010 8:35:02 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Congress is out of order!)
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To: mtnwmn
That ignorant "writer", Gregory Patin , (like many many others) needs to learn the divverence between "may have" and "might have".

Translation of the headline as written:"$500K device possibly deserves credit for preventing oil spill."

Stupid, ignorant "journalist"!

42 posted on 05/16/2010 9:29:05 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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