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New AZ law: Firms have no legal duty to have translators
azstarnet.com ^ | 5/17/10 | Howard Fischer Capitol Media Services

Posted on 05/17/2010 11:01:27 AM PDT by Nachum

PHOENIX - A Glendale optometrist's yearlong legal fight over what services he had to provide for a Spanish-speaking customer has translated into new protections for other businesses.

Gov. Jan Brewer has signed legislation affirming that nothing in state law requires businesses to provide "trained and competent" interpreters when a customer comes in speaking a language other than English.

Assistant Attorney General Michael Walker said that has probably always been the law. But that didn't save John Schrolucke from having to spend time and money defending himself and his practice before Walker's office finally dismissed the case.

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Hijole!
1 posted on 05/17/2010 11:01:28 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

the moonbats will be apoplectic


2 posted on 05/17/2010 11:02:54 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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To: Nachum

The woman was looking for an easy ride to riches with this asinine lawsuit. I hope she gets hit with a reverse lawsuit and is forced to pay the legal bills of the winning party!!!


3 posted on 05/17/2010 11:06:53 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Nachum

Arizex


4 posted on 05/17/2010 11:06:53 AM PDT by FrankR (Standing against tyranny must start somewhere, or the future belongs to the tyrants.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I’m starting to get itchy feet...


5 posted on 05/17/2010 11:07:58 AM PDT by benewton (Life sucks, then you die)
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To: Nachum
Schrolucke told lawmakers the incident stems from a patient who spoke only Spanish. Although she did bring her 12-year-old child with her to the office, he said allowing the child to interpret for the parent would have gotten him into legal trouble.

He said he faced a potential malpractice lawsuit if the child did not properly translate some of the more technical explanations being provided, so he turned the woman away, telling her through her child to come back with someone at least 18 years old.

Schrolucke said he also gave the woman the option of going to one or two other optometrists who speak Spanish.

Instead, he said, the woman filed a discrimination complaint with the Attorney General's Office.

So the wench shows up in a foreign country and starts bringing lawsuits against doctors because she can't speak the language?

In a just world she'd out of the U.S. on her ass.

6 posted on 05/17/2010 11:08:28 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Nachum

When did common sense become so uncommon?

I’m going to have to look at buying property in Arizona. The last bastion of common sense.

Caveat: Only if McCain gets the boot in August


7 posted on 05/17/2010 11:08:51 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

You know, some of them actually think they are on the side of the angels by requiring businesses and state offices to have spanish speakers to deal with people who don’t speak English.

The reality is that NOT requiring, or incentivizing immigrants to learn English is holding them back.

Now, I said SOME think they’re in the right,
then there are the truly evil libs, not just the STUPID libs,
that WANT these people to not ever succeed in our society,
so that they’ll be forever dependent.


8 posted on 05/17/2010 11:09:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Nachum

Sanity is returning to the nation in the forms of Arizona and New Jersey.


9 posted on 05/17/2010 11:09:52 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: benewton

I’m starting to pack! ;)


10 posted on 05/17/2010 11:12:17 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: Nachum

I love AZ


11 posted on 05/17/2010 11:12:21 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Nachum
Excellent! It is wrong to force a business to have translators on the payroll. We speak English in the U.S. as the primary language. Folks who speak another language need to bring a competent translator if they aren't up to the task. When I visit another country, I make every effort to learn the basics of the language before I travel. I stress that I'm VISITING with a proper tourist visa. I'm not invading the country as an illegal alien and demanding special treatment from the native business community.
12 posted on 05/17/2010 11:12:26 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: MrB

Maybe the next thing for AZ - no more pressing ‘1’.


13 posted on 05/17/2010 11:13:45 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: Nachum

Holy Frijole! You better get me a bowl of guacamole!


14 posted on 05/17/2010 11:15:04 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (?)
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To: Nachum

That’s three times now. Go Bewer!


15 posted on 05/17/2010 11:15:52 AM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: Nachum

That’s three times now. Go Brewer!

ugh


16 posted on 05/17/2010 11:16:03 AM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: CaptainK

What has New Jersey, the armpit of America, done lately that indicates it is returning to sanity?


17 posted on 05/17/2010 11:16:13 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (?)
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To: MrB

Theodore Roosevelt on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN

“In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man’s becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”

- Teddy Roosevelt in 1919


18 posted on 05/17/2010 11:16:14 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Myrddin

“It is wrong to force a business to have translators on the payroll.”

Look, the last time I checked, there are plenty of Spanish speaking dentists in Arizona, so why should THIS dentist be REQUIRED to treat this patient? We each have a RIGHT to associate and deal and work with whomever we want! That is why most companies have a sticker on their door or a poster that says they have the right to refuse any customer - given time, I am sure the ACLU will file a suit about this!


19 posted on 05/17/2010 11:16:58 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go Home!)
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To: Nachum

Thanks for posting this. I hadn’t heard about this. Those who won’t learn English or bring THEIR OWN DAMN TRANSLATOR, have NO RIGHT to force private enterprise to provide them one. The lawyer that brought the case OUGHT TO BE FORCED TO PAY the Doctor’s bills. Can this PANDERING TO THOSE WHO SPEAK SPANISH only, get any more OUTRAGEOUS?


20 posted on 05/17/2010 11:17:23 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

They elected Gov Christy!


21 posted on 05/17/2010 11:19:05 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (Promoted by God to be a mother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...................Thanks, Susan!)
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To: AAABEST

I wonder if she was a “green card” holder, illegal immigrant, or citizen. Did I miss that? If she’s an illegal, are we paying for her treatment? Is she fraudulently obtaining benefits?


22 posted on 05/17/2010 11:20:29 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Scene in optometrist's office:

Si?

No si.

No si?

Si no si.

Thanks folks. I'll be here through Saturday night.

23 posted on 05/17/2010 11:20:47 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Mexico presents a more profound threat to our territorial integrity than Germany or Japan ever did.)
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To: Nachum
Instead, he said, the woman filed a discrimination complaint with the Attorney General's Office.

No doubt, the local La Raza organization walked her through this process.

I wonder if the AG complaint form is in Spanish too.

24 posted on 05/17/2010 11:22:38 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: machogirl

If she’s fraudulently obtaining benefits, the ATTORNEY GENERAL NEEDS TO CHARGE HER.


25 posted on 05/17/2010 11:23:07 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: Nachum

Jan Brewer for POTUS!


26 posted on 05/17/2010 11:25:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Myrddin

In MA, a dentist has to pay for the translator of the patients choice. It turned into a scam.


27 posted on 05/17/2010 11:26:12 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Nachum

Lovin it!....Lovin it!


28 posted on 05/17/2010 11:33:22 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Nachum

Don’t let the door hit you in ass on the way out!!


29 posted on 05/17/2010 11:34:32 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Nachum

Everything about the new AZ law is soooooooo American.

Wish that Texas would follow.


30 posted on 05/17/2010 11:37:46 AM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM -- America's road to destruction.)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

I haven’t kept up with Gov. Christy. What’s he doing lately to get on the good side of conservatives? Has he outlawed the smell coming from Newark?


31 posted on 05/17/2010 11:43:17 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (DOH!!!!)
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To: Nachum

Everyone going through the legal immigration process must be able to pass an interview in English.

The only ones that should be here legally that can not speak English would be tourists on a proper visa.

Do they let just anyone file a lawsuit?


32 posted on 05/17/2010 11:43:57 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The election of their new Governor


33 posted on 05/17/2010 11:50:32 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: presently no screen name

Or, will AZ move to ‘English only’ voting ballots?


34 posted on 05/17/2010 11:53:25 AM PDT by hockea
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To: CaptainK

Okay. So what has he done to impress conservatives?


35 posted on 05/17/2010 11:57:08 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (DOH!!!!)
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To: Nachum

How about having English as the official language of all states.

FL has a constitutional amendment which does this.

language unifies a nation. multiple languages balkanize.

The only company that would demand balkanization are the free spanish language stations. Those should just be “pay extra” cable tv stations.


36 posted on 05/17/2010 11:58:00 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Google Chris Christie.
Do some research.
37 posted on 05/17/2010 12:00:13 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Jack,

I think the big thing is he is taking on the Public Unions, and lowering spending rather then just cutting taxes. U-tube has some fun snippets from speeches.

38 posted on 05/17/2010 12:15:20 PM PDT by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: longtermmemmory

a common language makes a society and a country successful

but, you’re assuming that they want their society, culture and country to be successful...

and that’s not a valid assumption.


39 posted on 05/17/2010 12:16:48 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Travis McGee

No kidding-she’s sounding more presidential by the day!!!


40 posted on 05/17/2010 12:17:34 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: ExTxMarine
so why should THIS dentist be REQUIRED to treat this patient?

What dentist? The article is about an optometrist.

41 posted on 05/17/2010 12:22:09 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98...PROCESS MATTERS)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!

This is America, we speak English here.

Get used to it...


42 posted on 05/17/2010 12:24:17 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Illegal is a Crime, it is not a Race ~)
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To: Myrddin

Agree with your assessment. The old adage, “in the country of the blind, the one-eyed man is king” is applicable here. In the gold old days, immigrants who didn’t speak English had to rely on others who did speak the language, in other words, had integrated into American society. This helped those basically too old to learn the new language but, even more, made the bilingual person a “hero” to the ethnic neighborhood, someone the kids would respect and try to emulate. Further, it pressured immigrants to get their children speaking English as soon as possible.

Now that so much can be done here without speaking English, the integrated immigrant is actually looked down upon as a traitor to his/her culture and kids are left language-retarded in this nation. It is a lose-lose proposition for the businesses and the immigrants. The only ones who win are politicians, bilingual education bureaucrats and ethnic manipulators who want to speak for (control) their fellow immigrants.


43 posted on 05/17/2010 12:38:17 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: Nachum
Some years ago, when it became clear that I would be spending more than a few months living in Japan, I went to the local driver's office in Tokyo to get a Japanese driver's license. The line was being held up by a pushy American woman who expected the locals to conduct their business in English.

Exasperated, one of the local officials finally shed his typical Japanese politeness and explained in broken, but understandable English "This iz Japan. If you can't understand Japanese, you should bring your own translator." Me, and half the other foreigners (and some of the Japanese) standing in line applauded. She just glowered and slinked away.

When it was my turn, the guy was extraordinarily helpful, perhaps because he saw me as the ring-leader in getting him out of that situation.

44 posted on 05/17/2010 12:38:40 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Has he outlawed the smell coming from Newark?


Uh, that IS Newark...

*rimshot*
45 posted on 05/17/2010 12:39:25 PM PDT by thoolou ("I may have invented it, but Bill made it famous." - David Bradley, inventor of Ctrl-Alt-Del)
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To: Nachum

More Arizona AWESOMENESS! Rick Perry, are you paying attention yet?


46 posted on 05/17/2010 1:10:03 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Tea Party. We are the party of NO! NO to more government! NO to more spending! NO to more taxation!)
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To: Nachum

Why the heck should an optometrist HAVE to provide a translator??

Years ago I knew a girl who worked as a sign language interpreter for the deaf. Deaf people hired her to accompany them to doctor’s appointments and other types of appointments. The doctors and other businesses were under no requirement to provide a sign language interpreter. The deaf person hired and paid for the interpreter. That’s how it should be. I’m not without compassion for anyone who needs an interpeter for some reason, but if businesses are going to be forced to provide them, we’re all going to pay for it and that’s not right.


47 posted on 05/17/2010 1:11:10 PM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: Nachum

Jan Brewer- doing the Chief Executive work that Obama refuses to do.


48 posted on 05/17/2010 1:11:13 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Tea Party. We are the party of NO! NO to more government! NO to more spending! NO to more taxation!)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

Sorry, brain flatulence!


49 posted on 05/17/2010 1:20:34 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go Home!)
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To: Nachum
So if an individual has limited English, what prevents him from bringing an English speaking friend or colleague with him? HMMM? Too much common sense all at once?
50 posted on 05/17/2010 1:24:05 PM PDT by ArmyTeach ( ...speak the truth, right the wrong, follow the King)
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