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Candidate’s Words on Vietnam Service Differ From History (Blumenthal Lied About Nam Service)
New York Times ^ | 05/17/2010 | Raymond Hernandez

Posted on 05/17/2010 7:58:00 PM PDT by MissesBush

At a ceremony honoring veterans and senior citizens who sent presents to soldiers overseas, Attorney General Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut rose and spoke of an earlier time in his life.

“We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam,” Mr. Blumenthal said to the group gathered in Norwalk in March 2008. “And you exemplify it. Whatever we think about the war, whatever we call it — Afghanistan or Iraq — we owe our military men and women unconditional support.”

There was one problem: Mr. Blumenthal, a Democrat now running for the United States Senate, never served in Vietnam. He obtained at least five military deferments from 1965 to 1970 and took repeated steps that enabled him to avoid going to war, according to records.

The deferments allowed Mr. Blumenthal to complete his studies at Harvard; pursue a graduate fellowship in England; serve as a special assistant to The Washington Post’s publisher, Katharine Graham; and ultimately take a job in the Nixon White House.

In 1970, with his last deferment in jeopardy, he landed a coveted spot in the Marine Reserve, which virtually guaranteed that he would not be sent to Vietnam. He joined a unit in Washington that conducted drills and other exercises and focused on local projects, like fixing a campground and organizing a Toys for Tots drive.

Many politicians have faced questions over their decisions during the Vietnam War, and Mr. Blumenthal, who is seeking the seat being vacated by Senator Christopher J. Dodd, is not alone in staying out of the war.

But what is striking about Mr. Blumenthal’s record is the contrast between the many steps he took that allowed him to avoid Vietnam, and the misleading way he often speaks about that period of his life now...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: blumenthal; candidate; candidates; chrisdodd; christopherdodd; christopherjdodd; connecticut; ctsenaterace; deferments; differ; dodd; draftdeferments; history; richardblumenthal; service; vietnam; words
But the libtards in Connecticut will probably send this leftist clown to the Senate anyway.
1 posted on 05/17/2010 7:58:01 PM PDT by MissesBush
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To: MissesBush

“Candidate’s”? It must feel sickening for the NYT to add “democrat” on the title..


2 posted on 05/17/2010 8:02:07 PM PDT by max americana
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To: MissesBush

This is the ninth thread on the current front page about this.

Wondering how soon the tenth will be posted.


3 posted on 05/17/2010 8:03:30 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (The Left draws criminals as excrement draws flies. The Left IS a criminal organization.)
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To: rockinqsranch

Each article has new and different information. This NY Times piece is the most comprehensive of those posted. I think the most damning too, surprisingly, coming from the Slimes.


4 posted on 05/17/2010 8:05:02 PM PDT by MissesBush (Stay angry--right through November)
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To: MissesBush

Correction!:

“Leftist,Communist, Hate AMERICA, Muslim Radical Terrorist Supporter to the Senate anyway!”


5 posted on 05/17/2010 8:05:24 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George W. Bush!!)
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To: MissesBush
But the libtards in Connecticut will probably send this leftist clown to the Senate anyway.

Heck, for a liberal Dem, lying is a resume enhancer ... his polling probably shot up 10-15% since this story broke ....

6 posted on 05/17/2010 8:10:31 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: rockinqsranch

Not having the luxury of sitting in front of screen all day, I’m glad I caught it on the 9th go-round


7 posted on 05/17/2010 8:10:50 PM PDT by She hits a grand slam tonight
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To: MissesBush

Jean Kerry wannabe.


8 posted on 05/17/2010 8:13:02 PM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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To: MissesBush
Bottom line here ... speaking as a Marine from that era ... I give Blumenthal some credit ... he survived boot camp at Parris Island. The rest is all about someone with political ambitions burnishing his credentials and getting carried away in the process. Not unlike 'rats like Kerry & Murtha who actually served in Vietnam, who did much the same thing, by portraying themselves (falsely) as hero warriors.
Then, of course, you have the POS Bill Clinton who managed to avoid the draft by deceit and lies & managed to become POTUS.
9 posted on 05/17/2010 8:16:49 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: She hits a grand slam tonight

HEY...I noted several articles were already posted clown, and went down the front page and counted them. It took me only a few seconds to do so as they are all right there, so shove it.


10 posted on 05/17/2010 8:21:53 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (The Left draws criminals as excrement draws flies. The Left IS a criminal organization.)
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To: MissesBush

and the RATS, take another one in the..............................HA ha!!!

11 posted on 05/17/2010 8:24:18 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: MissesBush
There was one problem: Mr. Blumenthal, a Democrat now running for the United States Senate, never served in Vietnam. He obtained at least five military deferments from 1965 to 1970 and took repeated steps that enabled him to avoid going to war, according to records.

He must be absolutely insane to tell such a blatant lie as a public official about something that's so easy to disprove. It's about as silly as claiming to have played pro ball or having been a skilled heart surgeon.
12 posted on 05/17/2010 8:25:54 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: MissesBush
This NY Times piece is the most comprehensive of those posted. I think the most damning too, surprisingly, coming from the Slimes.

Blumenthal is a white guy ... he's fair game for the NY Times even though he's a 'rat. It's interesting that when it comes to Obama there is absolutely no curiosity whatsoever ...

13 posted on 05/17/2010 8:29:52 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: MissesBush

He says he doesn’t remember how many deferments (5) he received.

No one was that stoned back then. Even people who spent hours thinking they were butterflies or trees sending out roots knew if they were going to Nam or had a deferment and how many they had gotten.


14 posted on 05/17/2010 8:34:30 PM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: rockinqsranch; She hits a grand slam tonight
Not to get in the middle of yet another back and forth bicker about "already posted" and its retort, but this nonsense has become tiresome on FR ... both parties have valid points to make about it, but it shouldn't become the main focus of any posts in any given thread (or multitude of similar threads, as it were)

Bandwidth is cheap ... but words, thoughts, and opinions can be very rich .. and isn't that why we're here?

If a similar story has been posted way too many times for the Mods to stomach, then they'll sort it out on their terms ... otherwise, enjoy the banter as it comes, and don't ever feel intimidated by the self-proclaimed FR Posting Police

Nuff Said,
-- MM

15 posted on 05/17/2010 8:53:04 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: MissesBush; nutmeg; raybbr; Puppage; wastedyears; RaceBannon
bump & a ping

On a less serious matter, another flattering but untrue description of Mr. Blumenthal’s history has appeared in profiles about him. In two largely favorable profiles, the Slate article and a magazine article in The Hartford Courant in 2004 with which he cooperated, Mr. Blumenthal is described prominently as having served as captain of the swim team at Harvard. Records at the college show that he was never on the team.

I wonder what else might be discovered?

16 posted on 05/17/2010 8:59:03 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: MissesBush

We may have just taken back the Senate.


17 posted on 05/17/2010 9:15:12 PM PDT by montag813 (www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: BluH2o

So what? He survived boot camp like thousands of others. Semper Fidelis doesn’t include lies.


18 posted on 05/17/2010 9:15:46 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: MissesBush

landed a coveted spot in the Marine Reserve, which virtually guaranteed that he would not be sent to Vietnam. He joined a unit in Washington that conducted drills and other exercises and focused on local projects,

Don’t for a second think he got there all by himself,
somebody with pull smoothed the way.


19 posted on 05/17/2010 9:23:21 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: rockinqsranch
This is the ninth thread on the current front page about this. Wondering how soon the tenth will be posted.

This is the kind of brazen Democrat lying that can't be bumped enough.
I hope there ends up being 20 threads.

BUMP!

20 posted on 05/17/2010 9:34:03 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: BluH2o
The rest is all about someone with political ambitions burnishing his credentials and getting carried away in the process.

Horse manure.
This is a case of stolen valor, and this p.o.s. Blumenthal should go to jail.

21 posted on 05/17/2010 9:36:15 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: BluH2o
((Psssttt it was quite fashionable for well connected young men to find a safe slot in a Reserve or National Guard outfit - See Bush, George W.)
22 posted on 05/17/2010 9:38:14 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion Stops A Beating Heart)
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To: Lancey Howard
This is a case of stolen valor, and this p.o.s. Blumenthal should go to jail.

If he was a Republican, he would.
If John Kerry was a Republican, he would be in jail now.

23 posted on 05/17/2010 9:43:14 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: MissesBush

Hang him out to dry. There’s no wiggle room in the phrase “I served in Vietnam”. If he’s so mentally impaired that he can unintentionally make that clear and colossal a mistake, then he’s obviously too mentally impaired to serve as a Senator (or as a state Attorney General). Much more likely, he’s just a bald-faced liar, which is also a disqualifying characteristic.


24 posted on 05/17/2010 9:52:45 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: investigateworld

>>> ((Psssttt it was quite fashionable for well connected young men to find a safe slot in a Reserve or National Guard outfit - See Bush, George W.)

pssst. Pilots died flying the F102, which was integral to the continental air defense system. As far as I know, nobody ever died collecting for Toys for Tots.


25 posted on 05/17/2010 11:18:12 PM PDT by tlb
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To: tlb

GWB served honorably in the ANG, and this Blumenthal idjit served honorably in the USMCR. Blumenthal only becomes an idjit when he tries to pawn off his USMCR time as being “in Vietnam”.

Otherwise, and that’s one huge otherwise, I see scant difference. I knew a kid who got killed changing a truck tire in the peacetime reserves...does that mean wrench turners should be revered more than longshoremen or cooks?

It was a stupid system that let the NG and Reserves become a haven from the draft and deployment. Everybody who did time as a Guardsman or Reservist back then has to answer to their own conscience according to their own motivations for joining.

There are currently a lot of Marine reservists doing Toys for Tots in between deployments, and more than a few former toy collectors who have given their all.

I’ll admit it rankles to see the Toys for Tots thing used as a pejorative, but I get your drift. That Blumenthal character is an idjit, alright.


26 posted on 05/17/2010 11:41:47 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: MissesBush

One must prove ones self as a LIAR when one is a true democrat. It shows the public that lying about anything makes no difference to the media or to democratic supporters.


27 posted on 05/18/2010 2:23:03 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: freeangel
Quite right. Lying, sexual perversions, poor character, plagiarism, criminal activity are resume’ enhancers.

There is only one sin for which the democrat party will excommunicate; that is the sin of unelectability.

Obey, Dodd, Torricelli, and others were/are major dirtbags, but were not given the heave-ho until the polls turned and stayed negative.

28 posted on 05/18/2010 5:09:02 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Where the laws are not supreme, there demagogues spring up - Aristotle)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Dems seem to get a pass. See Tom Harkin
29 posted on 05/18/2010 6:13:15 AM PDT by Tribune7 (It is immoral to claim the tea parties to be racist)
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To: investigateworld
That's a cheap shot at Dubya. It's been investigated to the nth degree and surprise, surprise it appears Bush actually volunteered for combat.
30 posted on 05/18/2010 6:19:18 AM PDT by Tribune7 (It is immoral to claim the tea parties to be racist)
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To: Tribune7
As another poster mentioned, the F-102, was designed for "Continental Air Defence', hence the likely hood of V-N being in the rotation was slim. Ya ya ya - a few - tiny number went overseas.

I did BCT in a mixed company, NG's AR's, US's and a few of us RA's.

All the NG's and AR's admitted both sober and drunk, they were seeking to avoid VN.

Volunteered? Great, a infantry unit would have loved to had him in it.

I cannot climb in his brain, but he knows what is there.

So why didn't he keep an active (Private) pilots license after discharge?

31 posted on 05/18/2010 6:41:48 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion Stops A Beating Heart)
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To: The Cajun

If John Kerry were a republican he would have been executed for treason decades ago.


32 posted on 05/18/2010 6:49:15 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: investigateworld
Great, a infantry unit would have loved to had him in it.

So, everyone who served in the Navy or Air Force was a draft dodger? How about those in supply units or the artillery?

If you can't climb into his brain why do you make the assumption of the worst.

He was a Yale grad in 1968 with a highly connected father and granddad. If he wanted to avoid aggravation, unpleasantness and danger he could have found an easier way of doing it without looking bad than flying jets.

33 posted on 05/18/2010 7:01:01 AM PDT by Tribune7 (It is immoral to claim the tea parties to be racist)
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To: BluH2o


Bottom line here ... speaking as a Marine from that era ... I give Blumenthal
some credit ... he survived boot camp at Parris Island.

I would say the same, being a never-served civilian.

Too bad the honorable Marine indoctrination (and I say that as a positive),
with the vow to “keep our honor clean” just didn’t stick.
Fortunately, the dishonor is all his, individually.


34 posted on 05/18/2010 7:17:54 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Henry Hnyellar
So what? He survived boot camp like thousands of others.

Marine boot camp whether Parris Island or San Diego is the most challenging of any basic training regimen in the U.S.. Some say the world ... Blumenthal could have joined the Air Force, Navy or Coast Guard.

35 posted on 05/18/2010 8:08:03 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: MissesBush
Added the following topics besides FRONTPAGE:

Extended News

Politics/Elections

US: Connecticut

I kind of want to add to breaking news, but the Admin Moderator might not be happy with me.

We need to give this publicity for the sake of our Vietnam Vets. Cowards like this turkey needs to tossed from office...

36 posted on 05/18/2010 10:08:22 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: investigateworld
You posted:

As another poster mentioned, the F-102, was designed for "Continental Air Defence', hence the likely hood of V-N being in the rotation was slim. Ya ya ya - a few - tiny number went overseas.

I would agree with that.

However, flying jets has a hazard -- they sometimes crash.

How often do we read of a military jet or helicopter crashing with everyone killed -- normally many times a year.

If you get some bozo in your platoon/squad who is very inept, you might get shot or blown up.

For example, in the Clint Eastwood Heartbreak Ridge that was a foulup in the Recon Platoon that almost killed that football major that Clint Eastwood referred to as a cluster F***.

Screwups in the military with weapsons can kill you.

But if you fly jets, you might get killed by a bad mechanic...

37 posted on 05/18/2010 10:16:49 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: BluH2o; Henry Hnyellar
Bottom line here ... speaking as a Marine from that era ... I give Blumenthal some credit ... he survived boot camp at Parris Island.

Do you have a source for Blumenthal going through Parris Island? It's possible he went through San Diego, but my guess is that he did the "Platoon Leader Class" and went into the reserves as a second louie.

38 posted on 05/18/2010 10:24:39 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: MissesBush

Thank you for posting this. THE NYT article is the most complete.

I am quite surprised at the tenor of this news story, considering it is the NYT.

Good. Blumenthal HAS to go. He has an uphill climb thanks to this revelation. Wonder what other dirt there about the pretty boy.


39 posted on 05/18/2010 2:47:45 PM PDT by Daffynition ("Play it, Sam, for old times' sake, play 'As Time Goes By'.")
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To: topher
That's true, but the F-102 was a very safe plane - unless you wanted to play 'dog fighter'.

Of course this is from a docent at the Evergreen Air Museum, in McMinnville, Oregon, who stated he had x,xxxx hours behind the stick of it and it's descendant the F-1xx.

Of course, I cut the National Guard boy no slack, he's trying to destroy my Nation.

40 posted on 05/18/2010 5:12:46 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion Stops A Beating Heart)
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To: Mr_Moonlight; All
MM,

I agree.

All one has to do is just skip over a post if it has been discussed to his/her own satisfaction previously-and without insulting the current poster!

It's unrealistic to think that any/all posters are here so often that they may know for certain that something has or has not been discussed recently.

This kind of thing discourages people from participating and posting. I'm speaking from my personal experience. I came here a couple nights ago with the intention to post an article, but after reading some of the bickering in this thread I decided it wasn't worth the chance of being cut down. As I'm an infrequent poster and visitor I'm not always up on what has been talked about recently.

A message forum should be a fun, informative and- most of all- a civil place for people to come together.

June K.

41 posted on 05/19/2010 3:51:38 PM PDT by June K.
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