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Aspen Trees Die Across the West
OnlineWSJ.com ^ | Oct. 15, 2010 | Stephanie Simon

Posted on 05/18/2010 12:29:25 PM PDT by GSWarrior

DENVER -- This should be the golden season across the West, when aspen paint hillsides in shades of fall.

But a mysterious ailment -- or perhaps a combination of factors -- is killing hundreds of thousands of acres of the trees from Nevada, New Mexico and Arizona through Utah, Colorado, Wyoming and into Canada, according to the U.S. government and independent scientists.

The aspen die-off comes on the heels of a pine-beetle invasion that has destroyed millions of acres of evergreens. Foresters expect to lose virtually every mature lodgepole pine in Colorado -- five million acres of them.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: aspen; beetle; forests; infestation
This was published last October, but I don't recall seeing anything about this issue here on FR. Last time I was in Colorado I couldn't believe my eyes! Dead pine trees as far as the eye could see in certain areas.
1 posted on 05/18/2010 12:29:26 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

Is this the same bug that killed all the pinon pine
along I-25 north of Santa Fe?


2 posted on 05/18/2010 12:31:16 PM PDT by rahbert (Only a poor snake charmer blames his snake..)
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To: GSWarrior

this is breathtakingly sad, the fall aspen are glorious

the Rocky Mountains will look sadly rocky without foliage


3 posted on 05/18/2010 12:31:35 PM PDT by silverleaf
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To: GSWarrior

The Pine Beetle is still munching the forests.


4 posted on 05/18/2010 12:31:37 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: GSWarrior
Dead pine trees as far as the eye could see in certain areas.

But the article is about deciduous aspen trees, not pine.

5 posted on 05/18/2010 12:31:51 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: GSWarrior
Young trees resist infestations and disease better than old ones.

Support logging!

Old trees are weak trees!

6 posted on 05/18/2010 12:31:56 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: GSWarrior

Bush’s fault.


7 posted on 05/18/2010 12:34:17 PM PDT by steve8714 (The only private property the Feds value is intellectual property owned by their supporters in Holl.)
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To: GSWarrior

Revelation 8:7
The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down upon the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up............


8 posted on 05/18/2010 12:34:33 PM PDT by Red Badger (When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you'll know that its desolation is NEAR. Luke 21)
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To: steve8714

Great pun!...........


9 posted on 05/18/2010 12:35:02 PM PDT by Red Badger (When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you'll know that its desolation is NEAR. Luke 21)
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To: GSWarrior
---In northern Arizona, wildlife may be the culprit: With the wolf population down, elk aren't often on the run from predators, giving them plenty of time to hunker in an aspen grove and methodically eat every sucker--

-yeah, not enough wolves , that's it--

--in the Frisco-Dillon area , at least it caused some humor--the bug trees turn rust-red the first year after they die, causing tourists to query as to "how do I get one of those pretty red trees" or comment on the refreshing red after all that boring green---

10 posted on 05/18/2010 12:35:33 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: GSWarrior

And DDT is still outlawed and for no reason what so ever. You can tell if a pine is going to die by looking at the top of it. It dies from the top down.


11 posted on 05/18/2010 12:35:57 PM PDT by RC2
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To: george76

—ping—


12 posted on 05/18/2010 12:36:52 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: GSWarrior

The MSM last year declared the die off to be the fault of global warming. The science being settled, it’s not necessary to explain why cold wet weather hasn’t had any effect.


13 posted on 05/18/2010 12:37:49 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: GSWarrior

And you can bet that non of them can or will be used for lumber.


14 posted on 05/18/2010 12:38:59 PM PDT by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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To: GSWarrior
Well my aspen are growing like weeds as usual. I have to mow down the shoots weekly.

BTW, I didn't realize that the WSJ wrote their articles so far in advance ;o)

OnlineWSJ.com ^ | Oct. 15, 2010 | Stephanie Simon

15 posted on 05/18/2010 12:40:42 PM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: GSWarrior

Well, I suspect that one cause is mismanagement of the forests, which does not allow harvesting of mature trees. Nature needs man as a participant, IMHO. And before the U.S. government put all these forests off limits, the Indians helped take care of them.

Weak trees and dying trees tend to harbor pests and interfere with new growth.


16 posted on 05/18/2010 12:41:32 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: silverleaf

Look at it as redistribution of the Earth.


17 posted on 05/18/2010 12:42:27 PM PDT by listenhillary (You might be a modern LIBERAL if you read 1984 & said "YEAH! That's the world that I want!")
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To: GSWarrior

The title says it was published next fall...


18 posted on 05/18/2010 12:46:14 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: rellimpank
I vacationed in Colorado in August 2008. It was tragic, driving along what should have been beautiful mountain scenery, and seeing nothing but a sea of red, with an occasional skeletal white or gray tree that had died and been reduced to bare branches. :-(

We went to SD for vacation and went out of our way to see how the pines were holding out there : I saw a few red pines, but not many.

We're going to Arkansas this August. I hope the beautiful Ozarks are OK. According to what I read, pine tree forests from Mexico to Canada have been devastated. :-(

19 posted on 05/18/2010 12:48:21 PM PDT by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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To: MileHi

I mis-typed. It was published last October. Sorry for the confusion.


20 posted on 05/18/2010 12:48:21 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Cicero
The pine beetle infestation in western Canada brought out a stark illustration of just how different people can be from one province to another.

In British Columbia, the response was: "The pine beetles are killing off our trees and decimating our logging industry. Someone (i.e., the taxpayers) must provide financial assistance to help us."

In Alberta, the response was: "If the pine beetles are going to kill off our trees, let's cut them down and sell the lumber while we still can!"

21 posted on 05/18/2010 12:49:46 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: kaylar
I should have typed We went to SD for vacation in August 2009 and-
22 posted on 05/18/2010 12:50:35 PM PDT by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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To: MileHi

“The title says it was published next fall..”

by Tachyon Press!


23 posted on 05/18/2010 12:51:09 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Red Badger

Trees have rotted before, too.


24 posted on 05/18/2010 12:52:01 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: RC2

The allepo pines in the Phoenix area are being severely hit. I just had two 40’ trees removed from my yard with another due to be taken out shortly. Funny thing about this is that the City of Phoenix has gone on a mission to cite homeowners for violations. It is against city ordinance to have a dead tree in your own back yard. This is their new effort to collect revenues. I chose to pay the landscaper $2000.00 to remove them rather than give one single penny to Phil Gordon.


25 posted on 05/18/2010 12:53:37 PM PDT by ScoopAmma
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To: kaylar
--so far, the bugs haven't made it across Fremont Pass (at Climax) toward Leadville to any extent.

South Dakota has several thousand acres affected near Custer State Park and there are more sick and dying trees showing up in the Deadwood-Lead area---

26 posted on 05/18/2010 12:54:25 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: rellimpank

Oh, no! :-( Custer State Park, Mt Rushmore state park, and Wind Cave (?) National Park were all so beautiful! I hope SD is able to stop (and hopefully reverse) the damage. :-(


27 posted on 05/18/2010 1:02:00 PM PDT by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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To: GSWarrior
the sad thing is that, unlike other tress that are an entity unto themselves, an aspen grove is basically one humongous plant - each ‘tree’ sprouting up from ‘runners’ that reach out like spider webs just under the surface.

So whatever attacks “one” tree is, in reality, attacking every aspen in sight - and up the hill and down the valley and over the mountain and....

But nature has her reasons and her seasons. Man just needs to get the heck out of the way

28 posted on 05/18/2010 1:02:48 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (google)
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To: kaylar

—basically, it’s unstoppable—there are too many acres and each tree has to be sprayed individually at the appropriate time in the life cycle of the bugs, IIRC—


29 posted on 05/18/2010 1:05:49 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: GSWarrior
Foresters expect to lose virtually every mature lodgepole pine in Colorado -- five million acres of them.

Are they issuing any permits for people to harvest them? No, not as far as I know.

30 posted on 05/18/2010 1:05:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: maine-iac7
---IIRC, during the Reagan years , there was an attempt to establish a facility to process aspen to pulpwood in Colorado, because it was known that many aspen forests were approaching the end of their life. This , of course was stopped by the tree-huggers.

Now the trees are just dying, unused---

31 posted on 05/18/2010 1:09:19 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: GSWarrior
I think aspen trees only flourish in the presence of capitalism.

At least we'll always have the pictures!

32 posted on 05/18/2010 1:10:21 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: GSWarrior

33 posted on 05/18/2010 1:11:21 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Thank You God for Freeing the Navy Seals)
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To: rellimpank

The bugs haven’t reached Climax ?


34 posted on 05/18/2010 1:21:19 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: ScoopAmma

Make a good size picnic bench out of them. If they can, make them out of 4x6’s. Other than that, sorry to hear you lost the trees. DDT would have stopped the lose....from what I understand.


35 posted on 05/18/2010 1:29:55 PM PDT by RC2
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To: fieldmarshaldj

—(snicker)—way too many of them have -—


36 posted on 05/18/2010 1:31:55 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: RC2

“lose” should have been “Loss”. Sorry about that. Thought I would correct it before someone else did...LOL


37 posted on 05/18/2010 1:32:10 PM PDT by RC2
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To: GSWarrior
Trees have a life span. When they reach the end of their life span they die. Colorado's forests have suffered from too much protection and not enough harvesting. The trees grew too big and too close together for the soil and available water to support. Overcrowding makes them susceptible to disease and bugs.
38 posted on 05/18/2010 1:39:38 PM PDT by STYRO (when do white Protestant taxpayers get their civil rights back?)
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To: Red Badger

This was my thought, too. A judgement plague.


39 posted on 05/18/2010 1:48:08 PM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: rellimpank; GSWarrior

Thanks.

We love them, but Aspen trees are just big weeds.

Each individual tree can live for 40–150 years above ground, but the root system of the colony is long-lived. In some cases, this is for thousands of years, sending up new trunks as the older trunks die off above ground.

One such colony in Utah, given the nickname of “Pando”, is claimed to be 80,000 years old, making it possibly the oldest living colony of aspens.

http://www.answers.com/topic/aspen

Second, pine beetles are not the worry on aspen trees. IMO


40 posted on 05/18/2010 2:01:38 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: GSWarrior

“Out West, where you vacation, the aspens will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them.”


41 posted on 05/18/2010 2:03:12 PM PDT by coaltrain
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To: bmwcyle

No one likes to look at dead forests, but the most serious effects of this will be reservoirs and lakes filling up with sediment, as well as being a serious fire hazard.


42 posted on 05/18/2010 2:26:50 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: kaylar

***We’re going to Arkansas this August. I hope the beautiful Ozarks are OK.***

They are still green! Lots of rain this year.

When I was young we lived in the Rockies. I saw lots of beautiful trees there in the fall.
Then my dad got a wild hair and decided to move us, kicking and screaming to the Ozarks.

I remember one year in school one teacher said to another,”Aren’t the trees beautiful this year!”
Being used to the Rockies, all I saw were dingey reds, dingey yellows. dingey orange. None of the Brilliant colors I saw in the Rockies!


43 posted on 05/18/2010 3:10:17 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Viva los SB 1070)
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To: GSWarrior

Just pulling your finger


44 posted on 05/18/2010 3:37:58 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I'm also hoping that the ton's o' rain we're getting this year means the waterfalls in AR will be looking good , too. When we were in CO, the waterfalls were looking a mite skimpy. Guess we should have gone in June, when the snow melt had the falls at maximum size, but....

I'm glad to hear AR has thus far been spared the blight. I hope that somehow, some way, the western states (and MX and CN) will find a currently unknown cure or treatment or at least a way to stop the beetles-*something*.

45 posted on 05/18/2010 4:05:56 PM PDT by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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To: george76

Pando may be a million years old. They are really unsure. It may also be the largest living organism in the world.

My aspens are in great shape and I see beautiful aspen forests all over Colorado so not sure what disease the foresters are seeing. I am in Colorado Springs but travel all over the state and things seem fine. The pines are being attacked by beetles but that is par for the course. The tree huggers won’t allow logging roads or logging so it is a major issue.

We have had forest fires and blowdowns. Both make a forest weak and they need to be logged. I can spray my property but millions of acres have to be handled differently.

I am smoking a fine cigar and looking at the forest and we are fine here. Summit County and other areas have been devastated though and I feel for their plight.


46 posted on 05/18/2010 5:52:19 PM PDT by wireplay
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To: wireplay

Logging would have helped slow down the pine beetles and provided good jobs removing the already dead & infected pine trees. That would have helped the un-infected pine trees.

Our DUmmie congresscritters are pushing for more wilderness and closing of more existing roads...before they are voted out.

Waiting for the next massive forest fire where the fire fighters can not use the existing fire roads.


47 posted on 05/18/2010 6:26:37 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: RoadTest

There are other “plagues” of tree deaths that don’t get much attention in the media:

chestnut ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chestnut_blight )
elm ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_elm_disease )
citrus ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_canker )
pine ( http://www.forestpests.org/southern/southernpinebeetle.html )

and several others.............


48 posted on 05/19/2010 5:18:37 AM PDT by Red Badger (When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you'll know that its desolation is NEAR. Luke 21)
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To: Red Badger

Thank you.


49 posted on 05/19/2010 5:47:57 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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