Posted on 05/18/2010 6:54:11 PM PDT by Steelers6
We needed Toomey to GOTV but he really had the , if it had been Toomey v Specter I think Burns would have had a much better chance of winning. Turnout was key and having competitive Senate and Governors races helped the Democrats turn out nearly 1 million voters.
Burns also has a serious primary challenge by Bill Russell since he ran against Murtha last time out.
It would be wild if Burns pulls this out against Critz but loses the primary to Russel, a lame duck unless he can run Independent like Charley Crist.
My opinion is that Pennsylvania is a lost cause and 'Most Especially' .. Philadelphia.
What were the election results and how many write ins did Russell get?
A loser of a primary is not allowed to run in the general according to PA’s “sore loser” law.
It’s entirely possible that Burns could win the set for a few months, but lose the primary to Russell. We’ll know soon enough.
Can you run as an Independent if you lose a partisan primary. Like Liebermann or maybe Bennett might do.
yes it did.
Once again the local GOP big wigs screwed the pooch by picking Burns for the special election instead of Russell who almost beat Murtha last time. But Burns is rich and can contribute to the local GOP big wigs’ campaigns.
Sometimes (most of the time) I hate the GOP establishment.
No. That’s what I just said. If you lose a primary you are forbidden from running as a sore loser in the general.
According to Wikipedia,
” in fact only the states of Connecticut, Iowa, New York and Vermont don’t have either a sore-loser law or simultaneous registration deadlines.[citation needed].”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sore-loser_law
Thanks for the info, that’s why Charley Crist got out before the primary.
Philly is the probably the only reason it goes dem every election. It use to be solid repub for a while....
Don’t forget the DCCC had to bail out on the Hawaii seat in order to shove money into PA-12.
They’re pretty much conceded the Hawaii seat to Djou, a Republican.
Russell was one of reasons we lost this. He was trying to primary Burns for no reason.
I agree with you. Forget trying to ever get anything in Pennsylvania anymore. The machine has the game rigged and most of the Reagan democrats there are either dead or retired in Florida.
Move on GOP. Put resources in regaining States like CO, NC, etc.
Exactly. He could not wait until after.
The conservative camp is divided and too much infighting to make any dent nationally.
I think the Dems will still keep control of house and senate majorities this november.
on to 2012.. we’re building a farm club , not everybody makes it to the majors first shot..
2008 Final - 12th District, PA
Murtha 58.1%
Rusell 41.9%
2010 (84.82% in)
Critz 53.4%
Burns 44.3%
Agoris 2.3%
A significant improvement but obviously disappointing. Of course Critz ran as a conservative; still a disappointment at best.
When is the Hawaii election, shouldn’t we be helping Djou with donations and calls?
Nothing against Bill Russell but why do people keep repeating this about the Murtha/Russell race? Murtha beat Russell by 17%, hardly a nail-biter, yet I keep hearing that Russell "almost" beat Murtha.
For all the money Burns had, he ran a crap-ass campaign. Never answered deceptive yet effective ads run against him by SEIU about his support for the Fair Tax, and never challenged Critz's claim that he was a pro-life, pro-gun conservative.
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