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Recapping Pennsylvania’s 12th
National Review ^ | May 19, 2010 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 05/19/2010 12:17:09 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

On Tuesday morning, Republicans who were closely watching the special election in Pennsylvania’s 12th Congressional District — once represented by John Murtha — did not offer ironclad, take-it-to-the-bank guarantees that their man Tim Burns was going to win. But they liked his chances, and expected him to at least run close to Democrat Mark Critz.

The final tally wasn’t close: Critz won 53.4 percent to Burns’s 44.3 percent, with all precincts but one reporting. Critz won a bit more than 71,000 votes, Burns a bit more than 59,000.

So what happened? Among the arguments emerging late Tuesday night:

Critz ran as a conservative: Some conservatives bitterly chuckled that Democrats were celebrating the victory of a pro-life, pro-gun Democrat who opposed health care and cap-and-trade. (Public Policy Polling found only 30 percent of the district’s voters support Obamacare, and 58 percent oppose.) This comes on the heels of an anti-Obamacare, anti-Pelosi, pro-life Democrat, Mike Oliverio, knocking off incumbent Alan Mollohan in West Virginia. They contend that few Democrats will be able to run on as conservative a platform as Critz and Oliverio did.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2010midterms; burns; critz; murtha; pa2010

1 posted on 05/19/2010 12:17:09 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

been posted before.

NRO is out of touch DC insider !


2 posted on 05/19/2010 12:22:30 PM PDT by ncalburt (e)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Democrats will be able to run on as conservative a platform as Critz and Oliverio did.

I guaran-damn-tee you that their principles will wither when exposed to the tactics of The Rahminator. They will be assimilated.

3 posted on 05/19/2010 12:24:22 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (We were hoping for flying unicorns that crapped skittles. We got nationalized health care.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

One of the more balances sensible takes I’ve seen on this particular election.


4 posted on 05/19/2010 12:24:31 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

You can’t fix stupid and many times you can’t vote it out if the voters themselves are the major stupid reason.


5 posted on 05/19/2010 12:25:42 PM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Well, the GOP got 41% of the vote here in 2008 and 45% of the vote yesterday.

Hopefully, the trend is our friend.

6 posted on 05/19/2010 12:28:11 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Did Burns run on REPEAL?

Did he badger his opponent on this question?


7 posted on 05/19/2010 12:29:07 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

A RAT won an overwhelmingly RAT district by claiming conservative principles. Big deal. If this is the RAT’s idea of a “victory”, that’s fine.


8 posted on 05/19/2010 12:37:30 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Vigilanteman

Pennsylvania had a closed election and the Independent vote was suppressed. I think the fall election will be much more competitive. The big news that everyone is ignoring happened in District 4. It looks like Altmire may lose to Rothfus in the fall.


9 posted on 05/19/2010 12:39:14 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: roses of sharon

They should have run Russell again. Or do something to get his supporters to come out.


10 posted on 05/19/2010 12:42:12 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Yes, he did win. But consider this:

Critz goes to Washington as a Democrat with zero (0) years of seniority. It’s going to be a long time before PA-12 sees the kind of earmarks it got under Murtha.

If he is smart, Critz will continue with the conservative line as that is the direction his district and the country appear to be going.

BTW, am I correct that the special election is only to fill out the remainder of Murtha’s unexpired term (i.e. until November 2010)?


11 posted on 05/19/2010 12:42:17 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: PA Engineer

I’ll be watching that race.

I thought Altmire might be primaried, since the unions threatened “consequences” for his vote against the healthcare bill.


12 posted on 05/19/2010 12:43:28 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Forcing one person to pay for the irresponsibility of another is NOT social justice.)
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To: Captain Rhino

Technically, I believe the term was to expire at the end of this year, with the election being held in November.


13 posted on 05/19/2010 12:44:36 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Forcing one person to pay for the irresponsibility of another is NOT social justice.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Critz won 53.4 percent to Burns’s 44.3 percent

I'd prefer Burns won, of course. But as a bellwether for other races, I'm more interested in whether he beat the registration spread. It appears he did, by a lot. Isn't it 2-1 D:R? And he lost 6-5? I'd say the trend is still our friend.

14 posted on 05/19/2010 12:53:52 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

The statement in the article read
“They contend that few Democrats will be able to run on as conservative a platform as Critz and Oliverio did.”

The dems might try this but the republicans have to hit them hard for the /DEms following the party line!!!


15 posted on 05/19/2010 12:55:11 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Captain Rhino
BTW, am I correct that the special election is only to fill out the remainder of Murtha’s unexpired term (i.e. until November 2010)?

Yes
16 posted on 05/19/2010 12:55:14 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: PA Engineer
Did you see any of Critz's campaign commercials?

Didn't he claim Burns wanted to raise taxes and joined Burns to the Fair Tax by some typical Rat trick?

17 posted on 05/19/2010 1:46:02 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: muleskinner
Didn't he claim Burns wanted to raise taxes and joined Burns to the Fair Tax by some typical Rat trick?

Yes. The radio commercials were nonstop and pure sleaze. The Burns campaign failed to address them. I believe the average voter gets all their information from these commercials and was the main reason more Democrats did not turn. The majority of them were funded by government unions (Rendell).

The Independent vote was suppressed during this closed election cycle and I believe Burns can take the seat in November. During the next few months the Burn's campaign is going to have to spend some money on radio spots countering the BS and also go "negative" by reporting the truth on who Critz really is.
18 posted on 05/19/2010 1:57:09 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: SamuraiScot

Good point. It’s worth noting that Russell’s GOP supporters had no incentive to vote for Burns. This might seem like a counterproductive “cut off your nose to spite your face” kind of approach, but the reality is that this was a special election for an open House seat that will be contested again in a “real” election in less than six months. Russell and Burns will be facing off again in the GOP primary for that election, so there was no reason for Russell’s supporters to cast votes for Burns this time around.


19 posted on 05/19/2010 1:59:59 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Critz had better really, really hope that Pelosi does not come down to needing his vote on anything, or he’s toast.


20 posted on 05/19/2010 2:17:19 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Critz had better really, really hope that Pelosi does not come down to needing his vote on anything, or he’s toast.

One sure as heck knows that if needed for a vote they (D)s will fall on the sword. THERE ARE NO GOOD DEMS.

21 posted on 05/19/2010 2:37:38 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“The Murtha loyalists knew him, liked him, and trusted him to keep the gravy train going.”

Probably not limited to the ‘Murtha loyalists’. The Johnstown area is addicted to, and dependent on the pork that sh!t head Murtha was able to have sent to PA-12.


22 posted on 05/19/2010 3:36:13 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in democrat stands for patriotism)
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To: Alberta's Child

Actually, they held the primary for the seat at the same time as the special election. Burns defeated Russell in the primary.


23 posted on 05/19/2010 6:23:12 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Forcing one person to pay for the irresponsibility of another is NOT social justice.)
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