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NRA backs Fiorina and Devore
The Politico ^ | May 18, 2010 | Ben Smith

Posted on 05/19/2010 2:51:32 PM PDT by red flanker

The National Rifle Association sent this postcard to its California Republican members, making it the latest conservative force, along with Sarah Palin and much of the organized pro-life movement, to swing behind Carly Fiorina.

The card describes Fiorina and Chuck Devote as strong pro-gun candidates, but makes its preference clear, writing effusively of Fiorina, "a gun owner, proud NRA Member, and strong Second Amendment Supporter."

The mailer attacks the third candidate, Tom Campbell, at length as having cast "anti-gun votes."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; ca2010; carlyfiorina; chuckdevore; devore; fiorina; gunvote; nra; palinforfiorina
NRA endorsement postcard



1 posted on 05/19/2010 2:51:32 PM PDT by red flanker
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To: red flanker

Is this satire? Fiorina?


2 posted on 05/19/2010 2:53:21 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: TheThinker

I am wondering if this is satire too.


3 posted on 05/19/2010 2:55:17 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: red flanker
She's ... he's ... er ... it's prolly a gun owner to defend taking away Constitutional rights.

Remember ... zero has been groomed for a long time to be here.

4 posted on 05/19/2010 2:55:31 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: red flanker

It’s not the NRA ... it’s the National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action


5 posted on 05/19/2010 2:57:12 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: red flanker
This is yet another reason I'm not a fan of electing someone to the Senate that has absolutely ZERO previous experience as a legislator. We have no idea how Fiorina may vote, only her word. We've seen the last two years, how much that matters to any politician.

We've got several people competing for Senate seats that have no legislative records. I hope it doesn't come back to haunt us.

6 posted on 05/19/2010 2:58:26 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: knarf

That’s the lobbying/PAC branch of the NRA.


7 posted on 05/19/2010 2:59:40 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: red flanker

“Campbell was the first to answer a question about whether individuals on the no-fly list should be permitted to purchase a gun. He said they should not, but both Fiorina and DeVore disagreed.

“Oh my goodness,” Campbell said after the other two candidates answered.

“That’s why Tom Campbell has kind of a poor rating from the National Rifle Assn., right there,” Fiorina interjected.

“I can’t believe what I’m hearing,” Campbell said. “Wait until you’re off the no-fly list then exercise your 2nd Amendment rights. That is not an infringement on anyone’s 2nd Amendment rights, and it seems somewhat unusual to take that position, except perhaps in a Republican primary.”

Fiorina said she knew people who had been on the no-fly list and that the list has been “way too large.”


8 posted on 05/19/2010 3:00:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: OldDeckHand
I see that now .. thanx.

My first google brought me to a "vote smart" page

9 posted on 05/19/2010 3:01:09 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: red flanker

So the NRA wants its supporters to split their vote? Campbell ought to love this.


10 posted on 05/19/2010 3:04:55 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: ansel12
If those quotes are accurate, then Campbell is no conservative Constitutionalist.

I realize that is a question that might require thinking it over a minute before answering but the “no fly list” is not a list of felons only a list of people to watch. That is SPECIFICALLY the type of list that should not affect a persons 2nd amendment rights.

I fully understand that some or many of those on the no-fly list may be terrorists but there has to be a line where you do not infringe on liberty and freedom. This is one such line. Find another way to protect other than arbitrarily removing Constitutional rights from those who have not committed felonies.

11 posted on 05/19/2010 3:27:28 PM PDT by Advil000
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To: Advil000

Here is more on Tom Campbell, he is running on a platform.

“Campbell supports abortion rights and gay marriage, and argues that Boxer’s greatest asset against either of his two Republican opponents, former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina and state Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, would be the state’s decidedly un-conservative social views.

“She has always been able to move the debate over to the social issues. She will not be able to do that against me,” Campbell told POLITICO.”

“During the campaign for U.S. Senate in 2000, Campbell touted his 100 percent pro-choice voting record. He opposed a ban on “partial birth’ abortions, one of the most horrific abortion practices. (”Conservatives Agonize Backing Campbell,” Roll Call, August 7, 2000.)

Campbell in 1992 made abortion the center stage of his campaign. In the 1992 election, Campbell’s TV ad ran with the following caption: “For choice, for jobs, for U.S. Senate.” In another ad, he said, “I’m pro-choice and one of the most conservative members of Congress when it comes to spending.”In a Republican debate, he described his abortion views, as good for voters “looking for someone who is willing to break with the party line from time to time.” (Gerry Braun, “Herschensohn Won’t Pledge to Back GOP Pick; Senate Opponents Renew Acrimony in Last Debate,” San Diego Union Tribune, June 1, 1992.)


12 posted on 05/19/2010 3:35:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: red flanker
Sure Fiorina supports her right to own a gun.

I just suspect she doesn't support the right for any of the rest of us to own guns.

13 posted on 05/19/2010 3:54:14 PM PDT by Ranger Drew
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To: OldDeckHand
“This is yet another reason I'm not a fan of electing someone to the Senate that has absolutely ZERO previous experience as a legislator. We have no idea how Fiorina may vote, only her word.”

Soooo, you prefer six more years of Boxer over Fiorina, political unknown though she may be? Amazing...

14 posted on 05/19/2010 3:59:32 PM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: snoringbear
"Soooo, you prefer six more years of Boxer over Fiorina, political unknown though she may be? Amazing"

Uh, pretty sure I didn't say that, but you're welcome to have that argument with yourself, if you like.

As far as I can tell, Chuck DeVore is still in the race, unless you've got some breaking news you'd like to share.

15 posted on 05/19/2010 4:03:28 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: TheThinker; freekitty
Here's a second source ... so it looks this one thinks it's a legitimate news story and not a hoax ... and that the NRA is saying that ... :-) ...



NRA Backs Carly Fiorina

by STACY DRAKE
MAY 19, 2010

The National Rifle Association sent California Republican members a mailer endorsing Carly Fiorina for the GOP nomination in the California Senate race. To be fair they also gave Chuck DeVore a ‘thumbs up’ for his defense of the Second Amendment. However, as Ben Smith from Politico states it, they made their “preference” of Fiorina clear. He writes:

The National Rifle Association sent this postcard to its California Republican members, making it the latest conservative force, along with Sarah Palin and much of the organized pro-life movement, to swing behind Carly Fiorina.

The card describes Fiorina and Chuck Devote as strong pro-gun candidates, but makes its preference clear, writing effusively of Fiorina, “a gun owner, proud NRA Member, and strong Second Amendment Supporter.”

The mailer attacks the third candidate, Tom Campbell, at length as having cast “anti-gun votes.”

The NRA issues ratings for candidates like a school grading system. They handed out an “A” to both Carly Fiorina and Chuck DeVore. Based on Tom Campbell’s voting record and current positions on Second Amendment issues, he received the rating of “F”.

During the last debate between these three candidates, Tom Campbell had another episode that should make any Second Amendment advocate cringe.

Like Carly Fiorina, I too know somebody that is currently on the federal government “no-fly” list. That person is about the last person I would expect to be a danger to any flight. Whatever criteria they are using is bogus, considering Faisal Shahzad, the Time Square wannabe bomber actually made it on to a flight after his attempted terrorist attack. For Tom Campbell to put his faith into this broken bureaucracy and be so willing to take away a person’s Constitutional rights, is frightening. But there are a lot of things about Tom Campbell that are frightening.

Both Fiorina and DeVore deserve accolades from the NRA for their Second Amendment record, membership, and political stance. By displaying a preference to Fiorina, it’s clear that the NRA sees the writing on the wall. To them, Tom Campbell is unacceptable and they are making their opposition to him known.

DeVore supporters have been trotting out poll numbers that show him gaining on Barbara Boxer. Everyone is gaining on Babara Boxer. The trouble for Chuck DeVore and his supporters is that he cannot beat Tom Campbell. On the other hand, Carly Fiorina can. So it’s pretty clear why the NRA is displaying a preference for Fiorina.

The National Rifle Association endorsement is a high mark for any Conservative candidate. Being a member myself, I trust this group to watch out for our Constitutional right to bear arms. A right that I believe, fundamentally keep us a free people. The NRA understands what is going on in the GOP Primary as well. They know what the score is, so to speak.

It should also be obvious to anyone paying attention that Sarah Palin would never endorse a candidate that is squishy on Second Amendment rights. She, herself being a strong advocate and taking her fair share of lumps from the anti-gun, ultra-left for doing so.

Carly Fiorina scores an “A” with gun owners and Second Amendment activists. She will do a great job as Senator and give California dramatically different representation than what we are currently getting from the ultra-left’s own, Barbara Boxer.

16 posted on 05/19/2010 4:14:27 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: red flanker

I’m for ABBA in this election - Anybody But Boxer Anytime.


17 posted on 05/19/2010 4:29:51 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Star Traveler

What’s going on? We need a cure for RINO fever.


18 posted on 05/19/2010 4:43:06 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: OldDeckHand

“As far as I can tell, Chuck DeVore is still in the race, unless you’ve got some breaking news you’d like to share.”

Sure, I’ll give you some breaking news. DeVore can’t beat Boxer, Fiorina can.


19 posted on 05/19/2010 6:57:50 PM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: red flanker
Wow, this is sort of a pot meet kettle moment. The NRA supports the NICS background check system and advocates for its’ strengthening at every turn then they turn around and chastise a political candidate for doing the same thing?

I hate the NICS system and think every freedom loving American has an obligation to avoid it and lobby for its’ abolition, but this bizzaro-world of NRA contradiction is pretty striking.

GOA all the way.

20 posted on 05/19/2010 6:59:22 PM PDT by Dayman (My 1919a4 is named Charlotte. When I light her up she has the voice of an angel.)
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To: Star Traveler; freekitty

Thanks for the source, but I was being facetious. I love the NRA but backing Fiorina is a bit shortsighted. I smell RINO.


21 posted on 05/19/2010 9:30:16 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: OldDeckHand
hell!...Id want to elect you!..but u can only stay 1 term....Id trust you'd understand what u were voting for.....the first term of course....*G*
22 posted on 05/19/2010 9:39:49 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: knarf

Uh.. NRA-ILA. It’s the NRA. I got this postcard last week.


23 posted on 05/20/2010 8:37:19 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: Smogger

My #9 ... I spoke too soon.


24 posted on 05/20/2010 8:44:24 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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