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Face of Medieval Knight revealed
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Posted on 05/20/2010 4:52:50 AM PDT by Beowulf9

FACE OF STERLING CASTLE WARRIOR RECONSTRUCTED

The skeleton of the knight was discovered during refurbishment work A reconstruction has revealed the face of a medieval knight whose skeleton was discovered at Stirling Castle. Experts are now attempting to discover the identity of the warrior, who is likely to have been killed in the 13th or 14th Century.

The skeleton is one of 10 excavated from the site of a lost royal chapel at the castle. The skeleton of a woman was found near the knight.

Forensic anthropologist Professor Sue Black is leading the investigation.

It is believed the knight could have been killed during Scotland's Wars of Independence with England. Techniques have advanced a long way and we can now tell much more about where people came from, their lifestyles and causes of death Dr Jo Buckberry University of Bradford.

The castle changed hands several times and scientific tests have been used to work out whether the knight might have been a Scot, an Englishman or even French.

Efforts by Prof Black, of Dundee University, to find out more about the warrior's life and death will be featured in BBC Two's History Cold Case series on Thursday.

Richard Strachan, senior archaeologist with Historic Scotland, said the facial reconstruction gives a "powerful impression" of what the knight may have looked like.

"He was a very strong and fit nobleman, with the physique of a professional rugby player, who would have been trained since boyhood to handle heavy swords and other weapons and who would have spent a great deal of time on horseback," he said.

'Unusual' group Historic Scotland, which cares for the castle, has announced it is commissioning further research to find out more about the 10 skeletons, which include two infants.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: ggg; godsgravesglyphs; knight; medieval; scotland; uk
They date from the 13th to 15th Centuries and were found during preparatory work for a £12m refurbishment of the castle's Renaissance royal palace.

Biological anthropologist Dr Jo Buckberry, of the University of Bradford, is part of the team which will carry out the research.

She said: "Techniques have advanced a long way since the skeletons were discovered in 1997 and we can now tell much more about where people came from, their lifestyles and causes of death.

"This group is highly unusual, because of where and when the people were buried, suggesting that they might have been socially important and have died during extreme events such as sieges."

The facial reconstruction and other research results, will feature in a permanent exhibition due to open at Stirling Castle next spring. History Cold Case -

Stirling Man is being shown on BBC2 Scotland at 2100 BST on Thursday.

1 posted on 05/20/2010 4:52:50 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: SunkenCiv

knight seen in light of a new day...ping


2 posted on 05/20/2010 4:55:26 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: Beowulf9

the good knight did not go gently ....


3 posted on 05/20/2010 4:58:50 AM PDT by silverleaf
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To: silverleaf

Dylan Thomas ping.


4 posted on 05/20/2010 4:59:17 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: Beowulf9
Hooligan
5 posted on 05/20/2010 5:01:38 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wolfcreek

Hey, thanks. That was cool. I don’t know how to post pics. He’s right handsome, but I wonder if he would’nt have had long hair.


6 posted on 05/20/2010 5:04:28 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

My guess is plague victims, since the group included women and infants........................


7 posted on 05/20/2010 5:06:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you'll know that its desolation is NEAR. Luke 21)
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To: wolfcreek

8 posted on 05/20/2010 5:08:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you'll know that its desolation is NEAR. Luke 21)
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To: Beowulf9

For future reference:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/757944/posts


9 posted on 05/20/2010 5:13:10 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wolfcreek

It’s Woody Harrelson!


10 posted on 05/20/2010 5:18:03 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Beowulf9

They can’t do hair with skull measurements.


11 posted on 05/20/2010 5:21:09 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Beowulf9

This is fascinating stuff. A face from 700 years ago.


12 posted on 05/20/2010 5:24:15 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: GreenHornet
It’s Woody Harrelson!

He does look stoned...

13 posted on 05/20/2010 5:25:18 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: wolfcreek

Considering the diet at the time, I think they added some 21st century poundage on that knight.


14 posted on 05/20/2010 6:05:17 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: Beowulf9

He looks like a typical hooligan attending a Manchester United match. Talk about a closed gene pool!


15 posted on 05/20/2010 6:21:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Beowulf9

Not guilty. rofl


16 posted on 05/20/2010 6:23:04 AM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: Beowulf9

He looks like a Scot IMO. Very high cheek bones.


17 posted on 05/20/2010 10:45:12 AM PDT by EggsAckley ( There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply!)
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18 posted on 05/20/2010 6:49:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

He’s not one of ours...to ugly. (We’re a handsome clan)


19 posted on 05/20/2010 6:56:36 PM PDT by blam
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To: Beowulf9

Gosh, he looks like my son!!!!


20 posted on 05/20/2010 7:03:22 PM PDT by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home......)
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To: EggsAckley

You could be right...but he could be Anglo Saxon. Does not look terribly Celtic...perhaps a bit Pictish.


21 posted on 05/20/2010 7:03:44 PM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: SunkenCiv

I would’ve pinged you but I don’t know how. How?


22 posted on 05/20/2010 7:06:26 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: wolfcreek

He’s sort of cute, but he doesn’t look like a scholar.


23 posted on 05/20/2010 7:07:13 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: KYGrandma

“Gosh, he looks like my son!!!!”

Well, see that! Maybe he’s related:)


24 posted on 05/20/2010 7:07:42 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Pharmboy

Fascinating. I visited Stirling Castle in the late 1960s. I really love this stuff.


25 posted on 05/20/2010 7:08:20 PM PDT by pollyg107
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To: Beowulf9

My maiden name is an old English name, so we might be!


26 posted on 05/20/2010 7:12:48 PM PDT by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home......)
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To: Beowulf9

Good Looking Man


27 posted on 05/20/2010 7:14:38 PM PDT by Ladycalif ("If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus)
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To: Beowulf9

One thing I’d love to see added to the software around here would be to be to have a “to” box on the originating post of a topic, so I could post a new topic, ping everyone at the same time, and then get goin’. But anyway, no harm done.


28 posted on 05/20/2010 7:51:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: blam

This guy and his clan probably kicked your clan out for bein’ so purty. ;’)


29 posted on 05/20/2010 7:54:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv
"This guy and his clan probably kicked your clan out for bein’ so purty. ;’)"

He's the one dead, we ain't!

30 posted on 05/20/2010 9:08:15 PM PDT by blam
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To: dangerdoc

Most knights were big men, having to carry the weight of the armor they wore. They were also quite healthy, being of higher rank than others.

Clydesdales, Percherons and other draft horses were developed to carry the knight and his armor, as well as armor of their own, when going into battle.


31 posted on 05/21/2010 6:00:25 AM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for my army hero grandson, and for the intrepid CG explorer!)
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To: wolfcreek

Warrior


32 posted on 05/21/2010 6:08:34 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: Monkey Face
I have a memory of a History Channel show about Knights. They were small compared to us a little shorter and a lot thinner.

Can you imagine wearing that amount of armor and not a McDonald’s withing riding distance.

33 posted on 05/21/2010 6:17:41 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: dangerdoc

Sorry, but that’s a fallacy. The armor seen in museums and private collections are small for a reason. They were shown to the knights as samples, and then the armor was built to fit the knight. History Channel leaves a lot to be desired.

A small man could not carry the weight of the armor needed in battle (remember it was IRON) and still move as deftly as war demanded. They also had to carry shields and broadswords, neither of which could be wielded by small men.

Knights were the best-fed, best-paid athletes of their day. They were not small and thin, or they could not have done what they did. And a lot of them outlived their contemporaries due to the better food and life-style.

Some were killed in wars, but for the most part, knights were awesome men. They were called knights, because they were knighted by the King and given the title “Sir.” This, too, was because of their prowess and bravery in wartime.


34 posted on 05/21/2010 6:27:02 AM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for my army hero grandson, and for the intrepid CG explorer!)
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To: Monkey Face
I'm not trying to disparage the knight, I'm just pointing out that they fleshed him out more like a soccer hooligan than a lean mean fighting machine of the time.
35 posted on 05/21/2010 6:49:21 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: dangerdoc

They fleshed him out according to his build and his ethnic background. If he looks like a soccer hooligan to you, perhaps he is the ancestor of some.

And again, the “fighting machines” at the time had to be big, healthy, agile and have a lot of stamina to do the things they did.


36 posted on 05/21/2010 6:52:43 AM PDT by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for my army hero grandson, and for the intrepid CG explorer!)
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To: wolfcreek

“Chlanna nan con thigibh a so’s gheibh sibh feoil”


37 posted on 05/21/2010 6:55:45 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
Translation, por favor?
38 posted on 05/21/2010 9:22:56 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wolfcreek

I’d like extra gravy on that thankyou.


39 posted on 05/21/2010 9:37:28 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: wolfcreek

Clan Cameron War Cry: “Chlanna nan con thigibh a so’s gheibh sibh feoil”
(Sons of the hounds, come here and get flesh.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/~trisham/


40 posted on 05/21/2010 9:51:22 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
Could be some Gaelic kin?
41 posted on 05/21/2010 10:23:53 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Beowulf9
Most Knights at that time most certainly wore their hair long.

During the Cromwell rebellion in England the Protestants overthrowing the nobility were called “round heads” because they cut their hair short.

42 posted on 05/21/2010 10:26:46 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: wolfcreek

Aye. We’re all kin, laddie. Or lassie. :)


43 posted on 05/21/2010 10:33:36 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wolfcreek

Looks like a bigger version of Drew Brees!


44 posted on 05/21/2010 10:35:51 AM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: trisham

It’s Laddie. A little. Native American, Irish, Welsh and Scot with some German thrown in.

I always hoped I was related to William Wallace. LOL!


45 posted on 05/21/2010 10:36:29 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wolfcreek

It’s a great combination! :)


46 posted on 05/21/2010 10:45:26 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SunkenCiv

47 posted on 05/21/2010 2:26:31 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

They should have filmed “Dark Shadows” there.


48 posted on 05/21/2010 3:35:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

49 posted on 05/21/2010 3:41:29 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: blam

;’) He came in second, your guy was third. ;’)


50 posted on 05/21/2010 4:57:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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