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Eagle Scout's penalty stands
timesunion.com ^ | 5-20-10 | SCOTT WALDMAN

Posted on 05/20/2010 1:05:26 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

Matthew Whalen's suspension will stand.

On Wednesday night, the Lansingburgh Central School District board of education rejected Whalen's appeal of the punishment and decided not to expunge the blemish on the record of the Eagle Scout suspended for having a pocketknife in his car while the vehicle was on the grounds of Lansingburgh High School. Whalen received a 20-day suspension in September after he turned over to school administrators a 1 1/2-inch knife that he kept in his glove box as part of a car survival kit. He returned to school in October.

Whalen has said he does not know how school officials learned he had a pocketknife in his car, but suspects another student may have tipped off administrators in an attempt to pull a prank on him.

School officials, who did not respond to requests for comment, have said Whalen violated the school district's zero-tolerance policy because he brought a weapon on to school grounds and that the suspension was an appropriate response. The case raised national furor when Whalen went on two separate national Fox News programs to discuss the penalty. He worried that the action could hurt his chances of getting into West Point.

He said he never realized the school considered the keychain knife a weapon. He said his grandfather Robert Whalen -- who recently retired as police chief of the Hoosic Falls Police Department -- gave him the folding knife to use in his car after they used it to cut wires while installing a car radio.

Whalen was given a Lifesaving Heroism Award by the Boy Scouts of America at age 13 after he performed CPR on his aunt, saving her life. He said he carries water bottles, a sleeping bag and a change of clothes in his 1999 Mercury Sable in case it breaks down. He considered the key-chain knife part of that preparedness kit.

Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/ASPStories/story.asp?StoryID=868106#ixzz0oVBJ25GX


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bsa; discipline; eaglescout; education; idiocy; liberalfascism; publiceducation; publicschools; ruling; suspension; zerotolerance
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Update to Noverber 20, 2009 story. This decision is sheer idiocy.
1 posted on 05/20/2010 1:05:27 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Aren’t most of our schools today?


2 posted on 05/20/2010 1:07:44 PM PDT by RC2
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Liberalism and common sense do not and can not coexist.


3 posted on 05/20/2010 1:07:50 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Was his crime having the knife or being an Eagle Scout?


4 posted on 05/20/2010 1:07:50 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I feel so much safer knowing this Eagle Scout’s 1-1/2” knife is not on school grounds.

What a bunch of buffoons running that school system.


5 posted on 05/20/2010 1:08:30 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (US out of the UN - UN out of the US)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

ALLES IN ORDNUNG ! ! !

SIEG HEIL ! ! !

AGENDA UBER ALLES ! ! !

OK, I’ll stop channeling an educrat.


6 posted on 05/20/2010 1:08:43 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The purpose of Zero-Tolerance is to pretend that a kid like this is the same as a gang-banger.

Equal-outcome is the name of the game.

7 posted on 05/20/2010 1:08:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: Spok
Was his crime having the knife or being an Eagle Scout?

Yes.

8 posted on 05/20/2010 1:08:59 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

In my day, any kid fortunate enough to have a pick-up, also had a gun rack with at least one gun in it and they parked right on the school parking lot.


9 posted on 05/20/2010 1:09:57 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (No Romney,No Mark Kirk (Illinois), not now, not ever!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

idiocracy


10 posted on 05/20/2010 1:10:05 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Typical brain-dead, one-size-fits-all thinking that pervades our public schools. School administrators are not allowed to use their independent judgment.


11 posted on 05/20/2010 1:10:41 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This is still America right? It’s so hard to tell these days.


12 posted on 05/20/2010 1:12:47 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: afraidfortherepublic
the Lansingburgh Central School District board of education rejected Whalen's appeal of the punishment

No, a "District board" didn't do anything. People did. Who are they? What are their names? What is their reasoning, or lack thereof? I guess a news article by a group with "Union" in their name isn't really interested in details.

13 posted on 05/20/2010 1:13:43 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
What country did this occur in ? New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, Illinois or Maryland?
14 posted on 05/20/2010 1:14:04 PM PDT by ZULU
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Over the years I've been called upon to render life saving assistance to people in serious distress ~ drowning, trapped by debris under water, burning in a fire, choking on cafeteria food, etc. Even stopped one morning to render assistance to a state trooper who'd gotten smashed by a bus (thankfully a Fairfax cop pulled up and I got to leave ~ nothing to do anyway).

The probability is good that this will happen in the future. Because of this particular instance I will change my approach. First, the ID. If they are associated with a school board, public school, or any funding organization for such institutions, they are ON THEIR OWN.

Too much risk in getting sued to help those people.

15 posted on 05/20/2010 1:14:43 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: fish hawk

If it happened in New Jersey, New York, Maryland, Illinois or Massachusetts - no.

It didn’t happen in America. You can relax.


16 posted on 05/20/2010 1:15:29 PM PDT by ZULU
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To: afraidfortherepublic
He said he never realized the school considered the keychain knife a weapon.

Heck, the school probably considers drawing a mere picture of a knife to be grounds for expulsion.

17 posted on 05/20/2010 1:15:38 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: afraidfortherepublic

If West Point rejects this kid because of an inch and a half pocket knife, then they are just as big a set of moonbats as the kid’s high school officials. The Eagle Scout is better off without West Point if they reject him because of something so trivial. I’m hoping they have more sense than that at The Point, but then again, look at how the Army handled the Fort Hood shooting.


18 posted on 05/20/2010 1:17:18 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm voting for Sarah Palin because she pisses off the right people.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I have that keychain knife, and the school administrators are idiots to think of it as a weapon. In a real fight, I'd rather face someone with that little toy in his hands than someone using his fists.

19 posted on 05/20/2010 1:17:33 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Tallguy

We need to ban pencils and pens in skool, those can be weapons as well. Students should only use jumbo crayons.

Just your kakistocracy at work.


20 posted on 05/20/2010 1:17:50 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democrat Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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