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Is Factcheck.org working with Obama?
Post and Email ^ | May 20, 2010 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 05/20/2010 8:11:23 PM PDT by Red Steel

MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS TO REACH FACTCHECK STAFF ABOUT OBAMA’S PURPORTED COLB ARE IGNORED

The Post & Email has tried on several occasions to reach the staff at Factcheck.org, an organization which describes itself as “a nonpartisan, nonprofit ‘consumer advocate’ for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics. We monitor the factual accuracy of what is said by major U.S. political players in the form of TV ads, debates, speeches, interviews and news releases. Our goal is to apply the best practices of both journalism and scholarship, and to increase public knowledge and understanding.”

However, Factcheck refuses to answer questions about its August 2008 coverage of the “Certification of Live Birth” which it claimed “resides” at Obama’s campaign headquarters in Chicago. Obama’s attorneys have not claimed that the original has been revealed as they filed briefs in answer to the numerous lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility; rather, they have attempted

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Sent: April 26, 2010
To: editor@factcheck.org
Subject: OBAMA’S COLB

I have a question regarding the COLB which you posted during the presidential campaign. Our website has posted two analyses of that document finding no raised seal on the document, as you claim there is.

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On May 2, The Post & Email sent another message to the same address using an email system which shows if and when a message has been opened:

Date...May 02, 2010 10:46 AM
To: editor@factcheck.org
Subject: OBAMA’S “CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH”

Hello, Jess, I understand you are the editor, or one of the editors, at Factcheck.org. I contacted you last Monday regarding some research The Post & Email has been doing into the document purported to be Obama’s “birth certificate”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: annenberg; birthcertificate; certifigate; factcheck; factcheckorg; henig; jesshenig; joemiller; liars; miller; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamaganda

1 posted on 05/20/2010 8:11:24 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Of course they are. Just ask BOR.


2 posted on 05/20/2010 8:13:43 PM PDT by 3boysdad (It's time to get busy living or get busy dying.)
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To: Red Steel

I recall this bunch from Election 08, there so called “fact checking’ consisted of posting a Obamao Campaign explanation for the issue in question.

“IL legislative record shows Obamao supported total firearms bans”

“The Obamao Campaign denies that is true”

IIRC, they receive funding from one of those Non Profit Progressive Organizations that Glenn Beck is always prattling on about..


3 posted on 05/20/2010 8:16:58 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Red Steel

I got into a fairly direct and furious debate with the operators during election 2008.

I told them that they are profoundly biased and not fit to provide public advice.

They are definitely skewing the information.


4 posted on 05/20/2010 8:18:39 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: Red Steel

Why can’t we hold it in our hands?

Why can’t Congress?

Why can’t journalists?

Did anyone email the Obama campaign (!) and ask these questions x 1,000,000 ???????????????

Talk about vexatious ........

Well?

WHO HAS HELD IT IN THEIR HANDS???


5 posted on 05/20/2010 8:18:47 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Red Steel

factcheck is owned by Annenberg....nuff said.


6 posted on 05/20/2010 8:24:01 PM PDT by MissTickly
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To: butterdezillion; BP2

An info Ping.


7 posted on 05/20/2010 8:36:25 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Yes, FactCheck indeed is very close to President Obama. They are a project of the Annenberg Foundation, the very same foundation which Obama worked for: Obama was a board member of the Annenberg Foundation, and CEO of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, through which he funded William Ayers to the tune of $50 million.


8 posted on 05/20/2010 8:47:41 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Red Steel

OWNED BY THE ANNENBURG FOUNDATION, OBIE WAS ON THE BOARD OF THE ANNENBURG CHALLENGE IN CHICAGO W/ BILL AYERS


9 posted on 05/20/2010 8:50:23 PM PDT by wac3rd (Prepare for the November 2010 Tsunami)
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To: Red Steel

FactCheck.org is a useless left-wing tool for propaganda... always was.


10 posted on 05/20/2010 8:50:25 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Red Steel; LucyT

SP free!!!


11 posted on 05/20/2010 9:28:14 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Red Steel

factlack dot org is a joke. I contacted one of their people in summer 2008 to see how they reconciled all the problems with Obama’s alleged COLB, such as the lack of a seal, registrar’s signature and the redacted certficate number. I was told that they took Obama’s certificate on faith as genuine and that they would not pursue the matter any further unless proof came out that Obama was born in Kenya. Inexplicably, only weeks later, they posted the infamous photographs to try to clear up the original questions I had asked about. No proof or claims about Obama being born in Kenya had come out. The only thing that had happened was that the HI DOH made it clear they weren’t going to confirm anything in regard to the COLB, thus it was safe to show a certificate number because it couldn’t be confirmed as genuine by the issuing agency. factlack’s other problem is that they were nailed by the EXIF data in their photographs which they promptly scrubbed. What kind of factchecking organization scrubs its own evidence??


12 posted on 05/20/2010 9:55:44 PM PDT by edge919
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To: Red Steel; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


13 posted on 05/20/2010 10:08:14 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Red Steel
Is Factcheck.org working with Obama?

Do bears s**t in the woods ?

14 posted on 05/20/2010 10:43:49 PM PDT by TheCipher
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To: Red Steel
Is factcheck.org working with Obama?

Can you save 15% or more on your car insurance?

15 posted on 05/20/2010 10:44:08 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Haiku Guy; Nachum

Isn’t Snopes part of Annenberg too?


16 posted on 05/21/2010 2:52:47 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Low taxes, low government budget -- works every time. Next question?)
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To: Red Steel
These are the people who "certified" Obama's COLB.



Jess Henig and Joe Miller, the two FactCheck.org employees who were granted access to Obama's bogus Certification of Live Birth (COLB) are NOT document examiners or experts. Joe Miller has a Ph. D. in Political Philosophy -- so he's a political operative -- while Jess Henig has an M.A. in English Literature -- I'm not sure her dye-job is a political or esthetic statement.

They are a couple of partisan Obots -- just what you'd expect -- Jess took the photos presented on their webpage and did all of the writing, while Joe basically held the COLB open for Jess to photograph -- suitable work for a Ph. D.

Those two are completely unqualified to perform any kind of forensic examination of any document, and FactCheck.org knows it -- and so do Henig and Miller.

FactCheck does say their, "representatives got a chance to spend some time with the 'birth certificate,' and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago." In my mind, that clearly shows they were working with and for the Obama Campaign and that Obama and his people are involved in this lie.

Lie? Hell, this is a conspiracy, the greatest fraud in American history and FactCheck.org boldly admits their part in it.


17 posted on 05/21/2010 2:53:21 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Nachum

The [Terrorist loving] Hippies Who “Certified” Obama
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2454752/posts?page=36#36
http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/AnnenbergFactCheckers.htm

Obama was vetted by Annenberg. But they have a history of being cronies and sugerdaddies for Obama AND unrepentent terrorist, Bill Ayers. Obama and the terrorist had Annenberg-funded offices near each other. Annenberg is the best the DNC could come up with to vet their candidate or Commander in Chief. Bill Ayers was a sworn enemy of US soldiers.


18 posted on 05/21/2010 2:54:32 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Low taxes, low government budget -- works every time. Next question?)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Isn’t Snopes part of Annenberg too?

I always thought so, but I did some digging and was unable to come up with a connection. It appears they are independent.

Which is not to say they don't have their biases. They just aren't a bought-and-paid-for part of the network.

19 posted on 05/21/2010 3:51:02 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gov. Chris Christie (R) won the NJ-6 held by Rep. Frank Pallone (D) by a 15.5% margin!)
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To: Haiku Guy

Thank you for clearing up that question. FRegards ....


20 posted on 05/21/2010 3:54:56 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Low taxes, low government budget -- works every time. Next question?)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Isn’t Snopes part of Annenberg too?

Snopes is not a huge research organization with hundreds of employees checking facts and cross checking each others findings to come to a consenus as to whether something is an "internet rumor" or not. Snopes is a website run out of the home of 2 leftists. The husband does the web design. The wife is the "investigator". She alone decides what is rumor or not. Here is an article about Snopes:

Article

21 posted on 05/21/2010 4:51:36 AM PDT by TheCipher
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To: Red Steel

Does a Zebra have stripes? Wait, is that now racist to ask?


22 posted on 05/21/2010 5:41:45 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Hey, Barack "Hubris" Obama, $10 is all it would take, why spend millions to cover it up?)
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To: Cementjungle
I have taken to referring to them as FactCheck.con That bugs the somewhat intelligent liberals.
23 posted on 05/21/2010 5:48:41 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Hey, Barack "Hubris" Obama, $10 is all it would take, why spend millions to cover it up?)
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To: FreeAtlanta
FactCheck.con
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

How about “FatCheck”.Obam

24 posted on 05/21/2010 5:50:29 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Beckwith

I am sure with a little praise and prodding, you can get these two hacks to brag about what they did. Get it on video and post it. It might be another good undercover effort for Breitbart's group and great evidence for LTC Lakin.

25 posted on 05/21/2010 5:51:53 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Hey, Barack "Hubris" Obama, $10 is all it would take, why spend millions to cover it up?)
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To: wac3rd

Yep!


26 posted on 05/21/2010 5:55:19 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction (I can see November from my house.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
It might be another good undercover effort for Breitbart's group

Andrew Breitbart wants nothing to do with birhers. He's sane.

Breitbart, Farah argue Birtherism at Tea Party convention


27 posted on 05/21/2010 6:05:23 AM PDT by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: browardchad

Are you a birther?


28 posted on 05/21/2010 6:36:00 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Hey, Barack "Hubris" Obama, $10 is all it would take, why spend millions to cover it up?)
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To: TheCipher

Thank you!


29 posted on 05/21/2010 6:54:47 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Low taxes, low government budget -- works every time. Next question?)
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To: edge919

I told them about the Kenyan Parliament Minutes which claim, officially, that Obama was born in Kenya. They still haven’t answered!


30 posted on 05/21/2010 8:39:53 AM PDT by newenglandpatriot (Stanley Ann Dunham, Anna Toot)
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To: newenglandpatriot

Brooks and company are probably in hiding because they won’t have a rational explanation for scrubbing EXIF data from their pictures nor an explanation for why Kenyans and Obama’s wife say it’s his home country.


31 posted on 05/21/2010 9:06:34 AM PDT by edge919
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To: Beckwith

bookmarked — I need these pictures of these perps.


32 posted on 05/21/2010 9:43:53 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

“I need these pictures of these perps.”

Are you making “Wanted for Fraud” posters?


33 posted on 05/21/2010 2:41:32 PM PDT by DrC
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To: LucyT; BP2; rxsid; null and void; Candor7

ping


34 posted on 05/21/2010 7:58:09 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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To: padre35

I’m pretty sure it’s Annenberg Project which Obama and Ayers for federal funds for.


35 posted on 05/21/2010 8:26:16 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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To: DrC
Are you making “Wanted for Fraud” posters?

That's a good idea. The Post and Email should do just that. If these two sue them for slander, they will have to show how they determined that the documents were not fraudulent and what their expertise was in attesting that the documents were genuine.

36 posted on 05/21/2010 10:00:56 PM PDT by TheCipher
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To: DrC

Such a fraud poster only needs a picture of Obama on it.


37 posted on 05/22/2010 9:04:32 PM PDT by edge919
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To: Red Steel

Factcheck this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbpjYeZXaVs


38 posted on 05/23/2010 8:59:41 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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