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Things You Will Need To Survive When The Economy Collapses
The Economic Collapse ^ | May 7, 2010

Posted on 05/20/2010 9:11:28 PM PDT by Fight4Freedom1

* This list isn't extensive by any means, so please add more items/tips as they come to mind. Guns & ammo are a given the "list" failed to mention. I guess in order not to cause panic... Today, millions of Americans say that they believe that the United States is on the verge of a major economic collapse and will soon be entering another Great Depression. But only a small percentage of those same people are prepared for that to happen. The sad truth is that the vast majority of Americans would last little more than a month on what they have stored up in their homes. Unless you already live in a cave or you are a complete and total mindless follower of the establishment media, you should be able to see very clearly that our society is more vulnerable now than it ever has been. This year there have been an unprecedented number of large earthquakes around the world and volcanoes all over the globe are awakening. You can just take a look at what has happened in Haiti and in Iceland to see how devastating a natural disaster can be. Not only that, but we have a world that is full of lunatics in positions of power, and if one of them decides to set off a nuclear, chemical or biological weapon in a major city it could paralyze an entire region. War could erupt in the Middle East at literally any moment, and if it does the price of oil will double or triple (at least) and there is the possibility that much of the entire world could be drawn into the conflict.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: beansandrice; cannedfood; economycollapse; foodstorage; greatdepression; preppers; preps; survival; survivalism; survivalists; teotwawki
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1 posted on 05/20/2010 9:11:29 PM PDT by Fight4Freedom1
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To: Fight4Freedom1

2 posted on 05/20/2010 9:17:29 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

Cont’d.

Most of us are so used to running out to the supermarket or to Wal-Mart for whatever we need that we never even stop to consider what would happen if suddenly we were not able to do that. Already the U.S. economy is starting to stumble about like a drunken frat boy. All it would take for the entire U.S. to resemble New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina would be for a major war, a terror attack, a deadly pandemic or a massive natural disaster to strike at just the right time and push the teetering U.S. economy over the edge. So just how would you survive if you suddenly could not rely on the huge international corporate giants to feed, clothe and supply you and your family? Do you have a plan?
Scientists tell us that a massive high-altitude EMP (electromagnetic pulse) blast could send large portions of the United States back to the stone age in an instant. In addition, there is the constant threat that the outbreak of a major viral pandemic (such as what happened with the 1918 Spanish Flu) could kill tens of millions of people around the globe and paralyze the economies of the world.
But even without all of that, the truth is that the U.S. economy is going to collapse. So just think of what will happen if one (or more) of those things does happen on top of all the economic problems that we are having.


3 posted on 05/20/2010 9:18:02 PM PDT by Fight4Freedom1
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To: Fight4Freedom1
Clean underware...lots of clean underware
4 posted on 05/20/2010 9:22:27 PM PDT by wyokostur
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To: Fight4Freedom1
"Already the U.S. economy is starting to stumble about like a drunken frat boy."
5 posted on 05/20/2010 9:26:07 PM PDT by wyokostur
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To: Fight4Freedom1

What an inane article.


6 posted on 05/20/2010 9:26:39 PM PDT by jra
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To: Fight4Freedom1

IBTZ


7 posted on 05/20/2010 9:27:36 PM PDT by wyokostur
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To: jra

The prudent see danger and take refuge,
but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
Proverbs 27:12


8 posted on 05/20/2010 9:32:33 PM PDT by Fight4Freedom1
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To: hennie pennie

*bookmark*


9 posted on 05/20/2010 9:34:36 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: Fight4Freedom1

If you aren’t prepared now it’s probably too late for most people to start.
As you can see, lots of Americans think it can never happen to them, they’ll be standing in the bread lines.
My grandparents grew up during the depression and they not only survived but thrived because they were independent first.


10 posted on 05/20/2010 9:36:21 PM PDT by muddler (Obama is either incompetent or malicious, and it makes little difference which.)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and
especially for his immediate family, he has
denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
1 Timothy 5:8

Those who wish may want to review my Preparedness manual at:

http://www.mediafire.com/?ojmy2z1zfin


11 posted on 05/20/2010 9:39:24 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Fight4Freedom1

lol our government is doing a good job prevent us from having anything to survive on.


12 posted on 05/20/2010 9:42:52 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Fight4Freedom1; darkwing104

Your failure to insert proper paragraph breaks enrages me.


13 posted on 05/20/2010 9:44:35 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others.)
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To: Fight4Freedom1
So just think of what will happen if one (or more) of those things does happen on top of all the economic problems that we are having.

We will all be in the same sinking boat and we will rally and some will survive.

14 posted on 05/20/2010 9:45:16 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: Fight4Freedom1; darkwing104

Poor English composition skills are a sign of disorderly thought process.

They are also ZOTbait.


15 posted on 05/20/2010 9:47:42 PM PDT by shibumi (Pablo (the Wily One) signed up for the "Hippo Attack" ping list!)
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To: jra

Really...

The first item should have discussed caliber, at least.


16 posted on 05/20/2010 9:49:19 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Grizzled Bear

Well, actually there were “breaks”, but then I exceeded the # of words, went back deleted some things, & when I hit “post” it all ran together.

Let me suggest clicking link to read orig.


18 posted on 05/20/2010 9:51:22 PM PDT by Fight4Freedom1
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To: Fight4Freedom1
Put down the bottle...Paragraphs are your friends.


19 posted on 05/20/2010 9:52:24 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: muddler

“My grandparents grew up during the depression and they not only survived but thrived because they were independent first.”

My parents did the same, they saved enough to start a business without borrowing and build a home in a high end area of los Angeles.

The answer isn’t to surivre but prosper!


20 posted on 05/20/2010 9:54:57 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: muddler

I agree completely.
Ppl today are so spoiled it’s pathetic.
Can you imagine the chaos if this does in fact happen?
The very ones making-fun will be the worse ones.


21 posted on 05/20/2010 9:57:39 PM PDT by Fight4Freedom1
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To: Kartographer

Thank you for this.

I’ll check it out tomorrow.


22 posted on 05/20/2010 9:58:35 PM PDT by Fight4Freedom1
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To: Fight4Freedom1

The topic is good but the link is horrible. It is one of those sites that makes you click 20 times (with an ad at every click) just to see the list of 20.

MSN is like that and now no matter how interesting the headline makes the article appear, I just won’t go there.

No rap on you. It is an worthwhile topic. We just need to find a direct list.


23 posted on 05/20/2010 10:00:39 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: wyokostur
psst ... it is spelled "underwear" ... love the graphic!
24 posted on 05/20/2010 10:00:42 PM PDT by softwarecreator (I want my greenshoots!)
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To: Kartographer

My computer tells me I must download something to view your page. Sorry.


25 posted on 05/20/2010 10:01:34 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: wyokostur

Can’t tell what continent it hit but something tells me if you are at ground zero there is only one thing you will have needed to have done in preparation - a stock pile of guns, ammo and food you can’t take with you.


26 posted on 05/20/2010 10:03:46 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Try this one...

http://www.businessinsider.com/20-things-you-will-need-to-survive-when-the-economy-collapses-and-the-next-great-depression-begins-2010-5#ixzz0nGDjiKMY


27 posted on 05/20/2010 10:06:59 PM PDT by Fight4Freedom1
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; Blue Jays; ...

Preparedness/Survival Ping!

Put your two cents here...


28 posted on 05/20/2010 10:12:03 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (God to Obama: Don't think I'm not keepin' track. Brother.)
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To: Fight4Freedom1
Some trusted friends so you can combine your efforts and be more well off.
29 posted on 05/20/2010 10:16:45 PM PDT by Duckdog (If it wasn't for NASCAR my TV would have gone out the window years ago!)
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To: Fight4Freedom1
I liked this comment by Ken Royall:

If the supply of energy were disrupted severely, millions would be dying within weeks and violence would be widespread, you may find that survival is not even preferable. Some very tough, ruthless actions would be necessary and honestly most average folks just aren't up to it.

It's the last sentence that jibes with me most whenever these doomsday preparation scares crop up. Most people are not up to doing what is necessary to KEEP all the items on the list.

30 posted on 05/20/2010 10:43:15 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

Lessons from Argentina’s economic collapse
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/10.08/tshtf1.html

The Coming Depression
http://thecomingdepression.blogspot.com/2010/01/protection-guns-and-gold.html

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army.....?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242

SURVIVING IN ARGENTINA: MAKING MONEY DURING A DEPRESSION(PREPARE TO BE SURPRISED)
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=142352


31 posted on 05/20/2010 11:00:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

“But even without all of that, the truth is that the U.S. economy is going to collapse.”

That’s said with such certainty. I’ve been paying attention and still can’t wrap my head around this....imagine those who aren’t...like my sons...who roll their eyes and ridicule me whenever I mention it. If I begin to ‘hoard’ anything, they’ll think me certifiable. (I have a friend who’s a hoarder and she IS certifiable). Normally, I wouldn’t care what they or anyone else thinks, but, my sons are all I’ve got and I would love to see them be supportive and prepared as well. I think half the battle most of us have are with friends and family, more than half of this country, who voted for and are still actually still looking forward to the ‘hope and change’ promised by Obama...and sadly, they’re going to get it.


32 posted on 05/20/2010 11:10:08 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

Our grandparents and parents survived the Great Depression—because they lived on farms. Our modern lifestyles says “we’re dead meat”.

I remember my grandmother said she “frequently fed the hobos passing thru”. My grandfather stuck around with a .38 revolver just as a precaution. But back in those days, it was less of a risk of being attacked for your kindness as it might be today.


33 posted on 05/20/2010 11:19:25 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bttt


34 posted on 05/20/2010 11:27:32 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: softwarecreator

Hardware,....

Underwear,....

Got it.


35 posted on 05/20/2010 11:28:26 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

For future reference.


36 posted on 05/20/2010 11:30:47 PM PDT by matthew fuller ("In God We Trust" is being replaced by "Don't Aks, Don't Tell".)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

25 Rules for today’s economy

Rule 1: For return on investment, using quality materials and a cohesive design provide the best returns on a home upgrade. Bathroom and kitchen upgrades add the most equity.
Rule 2: It’s worth refinancing your home only if you can reduce your overall costs including the added refinancing costs.
Rule 3: Go no more than two and a half times your income in overall debt to buy a home. For a down payment, only exceed 20% if you don’t think you can beat the interest rate in investments.
Rule 4: Your total housing payment should not exceed 30% of your net income. Total debt payments should not exceed 40% of your net income.
Rule 5: Never hire anyone to provide a nontrivial service for you if they cannot provide quality references.
Rule 6: All else being equal, the best place to invest is in an investment plan through your work benefits up to the full company match. After this, invest in a Roth IRA. Still have money to invest? Put it in a place that you can easily access in ten or fifteen years, like an index fund.
Rule 7: To figure out what percentage of your money should not be in stocks, sutract 30 from your age and then double that number.
Rule 8: Invest no more than 5% of your portfolio in your company stock – or any single company’s stock, for that matter – unless you are exceptionally well-educated on the company; even then, don’t go above 10%.
Rule 9: The only way you should compare mutual fund returns is by first subtracting the fees off the top of any fund; this will expose the true value of the fund.
Rule 10: Aim to build a retirement plan that contains 25 times the annual amount you want to have when you retire. So, if you want a total income of $60,000 each year when you retire, you need to have $1.5 million in your retirement account.
Rule 11: If you don’t understand how an investment works, do some research before you invest; don’t just write it off.
Rule 12: If you’re not saving 20% of all of your income in excess of $20,000, you aren’t saving enough.
Rule 13: Keep two months’ worth of living expenses in a bank savings account or a money market account for each person in your household. So, if four people live in your household, have eight months’ worth of living expenses.
Rule 14: Aim to accumulate enough money to pay for what four years of undergraduate tuition would cost for your child at the institute of your choice on the day he or she was born. The rest can be borrowed or covered when the time comes.
Rule 15: You should leave behind a year’s worth of life insurance to cover your funeral, plus two years’ salary for each dependent you claimed on your last tax return (including yourself).
Rule 16: When you buy insurance, compare the packages at multiple insurance providers with the highest deductible you can afford. It’s the easiest way to lower your premium.
Rule 17: The best credit card is a no-fee rewards card that can earn you at least 1.5% in return that you pay in full every month. But if you carry a balance, high interest rates will wipe out the benefits.
Rule 18: The best ways to improve your credit score is to pay bills on time, to reduce the balance on your credit cards, and to not cancel old cards when you’ve paid off their balance.
Rule 19: Anyone who contacts you at any time and requests personal information of any kind is a scam artist. You should initiate all contacts that require a personal information exchange.
Rule 20: The best way to save money on a car is to pay cash for a late-model used car and drive it until it’s junk. A car loses 30% of its value in the first year.
Rule 21: Never lease an automobile.
Rule 22: When a new gadget or computer comes out, select the model you would like to buy, then wait three months for the price to lower. If you still want that model, buy it; if not, move on or select a new model and start a new three month wait.
Rule 23: Save money on airline tickets by buying early, comparing rates, and being flexible when it comes to carriers and options.
Rule 24: Don’t redeem frequent-flier miles (or points from any bonus program) unless you can get more than a dollar’s worth of air fare or other stuff for every 100 miles (or points) you spend.
Rule 25: When you shop for electronics, don’t pay for an extended warranty.


37 posted on 05/20/2010 11:55:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: Fight4Freedom1
Richard Russell Dow Theorist: Sell Everything Liquid, You Won't Recognize America By The End Of The Year


38 posted on 05/20/2010 11:56:13 PM PDT by blam
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To: softwarecreator; wyokostur
psst ... it is spelled "underwear" ... love the graphic!

Underwear is what you wear.

I assumed underware was the wares you sold "under the table" to survive.

39 posted on 05/21/2010 12:30:03 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Exactly. How many of the hobo’s your grandmother shared with showed up with zero manners, without a belt holding their pants up, covered in tattoo’s, with zero cash and $100+ shoes? I’m betting those hobo’s were extremely polite and tried to be of service in some way around your grandparent’s house. That generation wasn’t raised in front of a television.


40 posted on 05/21/2010 12:30:46 AM PDT by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: ChocChipCookie
Preparedness/Survival Ping! Put your two cents here...

I have a good start: wood stoves with tons of "squaw wood" on every acre; a shallow 4' square well, ropes & buckets; a working outhouse kept in good repair; plenty of tame & wild foods, both of the meat & veggie kinds on the property; the means and the will to defend it, and friendly, cooperative neighbors with the same set of assets and attitudes.

Anything beyond that start is nobody's business except on a 'need to know' basis. ;-)

41 posted on 05/21/2010 12:41:20 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
...a shallow ...well, ... a working outhouse kept in good repair; ...

Hopefully not very close to each other.

42 posted on 05/21/2010 3:42:16 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

mark


43 posted on 05/21/2010 4:18:49 AM PDT by silverleaf
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Can your computer display .pdf files? If not there are a number of free .pdf reader programs. I have posted a .rft version that any computer should be able to display, its a much biger file and is at:

http://www.mediafire.com/?mjogdm4xmvk


44 posted on 05/21/2010 4:33:14 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

That mediafire address gives me a cookie error.


45 posted on 05/21/2010 4:59:43 AM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: meyer

Try this link:

http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php

Posted there in .pdf and .rft you can pick which ever one you prefer.


46 posted on 05/21/2010 5:02:55 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

That link works. It seems that Mediafire requires cookies for people to download and read what others put up. I’ll have to temporarily enable them for the site, and then block them again.


47 posted on 05/21/2010 5:07:28 AM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: softwarecreator; ApplegateRanch
underware..underwear..thought something didn't look right. Lol. Maybe underware are what bombers use..hardware in your underwear. :-0
48 posted on 05/21/2010 6:27:10 AM PDT by wyokostur
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To: jra
What an inane article.

Mebbe so. But the concept is not inane. Read some recent history and events from Argentina. We could very well be on the same road. Especially with a Marxist dictator in the WH.

49 posted on 05/21/2010 7:58:55 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (You can only get smarter by engaging a smarter opponent.)
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To: dalereed
“My grandparents grew up during the depression and they not only survived but thrived because they were independent first.”

My mother and her Grandmother survived the Weimar Republic by growing vegetables on a small backyard garden patch. She never ate rutabagas again for the rest of her life.

Regards,
GtG

50 posted on 05/21/2010 9:38:22 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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