Skip to comments.Obama administration should heed Mexico's call to crack down on guns
Posted on 05/21/2010 4:49:23 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
MEXICAN PRESIDENT Felipe Calderón has shown courage in leading his government to take on the violent drug gangs that have claimed thousands of Mexican lives. On Thursday, he displayed a different kind of fortitude: standing before a joint meeting of Congress and asking for a revival of the U.S. assault weapons ban. The Obama administration, which has been largely absent in the fight against the illegal gun trade, should have such backbone.
Mr. Calderón, who has been in Washington for a state visit, made a powerful case. Over the past three years, Mexican authorities have seized some 75,000 weapons used in crimes; more than 80 percent of those they were able to trace came from the United States. Mr. Calderón argued that the surge in violent, cartel-related crimes coincided with the 2004 repeal of the U.S. assault weapons ban.
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So what percentage are traceable guns of the 75,000 seized? 10%, 1%? Probably most of the guns were untraceable.
WaPo is engaging in some slippery wording here to distort the facts.
Hey, why not? There won’t be a single Democrat left by 2012 anyways. Go for broke!
Maybe they’d be happier in Mexico.
and how many of those “traceable” guns were simply attributed to us from the “made in the usa” stamp on them?
Its time for additional layoffs at the compost.The last guy to leave please turn out the lights.
“So what percentage are traceable guns of the 75,000 seized? 10%, 1%? Probably most of the guns were untraceable.”
Exactly, it is much more likely that the untraceable guns were from elsewhere, other than the US and that most of the 75,000 guns were untraceable. That is exactly why the Washington Post wrote it that way, to deceive.
The Washington Tass flatulates on cue from it’s 0bamunist masters, nothing new here.
As for Calderon?
Go visit the local Taco Bell, stuff your piehole with a big beef burrito, do a Mexican hat dance, then GTF outta OUR Country!
We should build a 40 foot wall from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico.
We’ll keep our guns inside the U.S., and Mexico can keep their underclass inside Mexico. Works for me.
“Hey, why not? There wont be a single Democrat left by 2012 anyways. Go for broke!”
You are kidding right? If not, begin preparing yourself for great disappointment...
So what if the arms were made in the USA. Enquiring minds want to know who purchased, transported and sold the arms in Mexico. I’m sure they were just ordinary tourists looking to make a little extra cash to spend on the lush beaches of old Mexico - or not . . .
P.S. Dear Mr. Calderone, closing American borders would solve this problem because smuggling is a two way street - comprende? Besides, if an open border is leaving your country with a bunch of armed thugs and drug peddlers, you ought to give a little thought to the concept of ‘brain drain’ which also seems to be impacting your increasing stupid nation.
Well, if not, we will be a fully-communist country — complete with roundups and starvation purges and gulags — by 2014.
If one were to bring guns into Mexico, all one would have to do is load up your trunk with AK’s and drive through the “Nada Para Declarar” gate at the border. If you’re lucky, the Mexican border guards will wave at you!
Sounds about right.
If only there was some kind of device..a barrier of some sort that could be constructed along the border to keep those guns out. If only someone would invent such a device.
The fact is, only 17 percent of guns found at Mexican crime scenes have been traced to the U.S.
What’s true, an ATF spokeswoman told FOXNews.com, in a clarification of the statistic used by her own agency’s assistant director, “is that over 90 percent of the traced firearms originate from the U.S.”
But a large percentage of the guns recovered in Mexico do not get sent back to the U.S. for tracing, because it is obvious from their markings that they do not come from the U.S.
“Not every weapon seized in Mexico has a serial number on it that would make it traceable, and the U.S. effort to trace weapons really only extends to weapons that have been in the U.S. market,” Matt Allen, special agent of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), told FOX News.
In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Close to 6,000 were successfully traced — and of those, 90 percent — 5,114 to be exact, according to testimony in Congress by William Hoover — were found to have come from the U.S.
But in those same two years, according to the Mexican government, 29,000 guns were recovered at crime scenes.
In other words, 68 percent of the guns that were recovered were never submitted for tracing. And when you weed out the roughly 6,000 guns that could not be traced from the remaining 32 percent, it means 83 percent of the guns found at crime scenes in Mexico could not be traced to the U.S.
So, if not from the U.S., where do they come from? There are a variety of sources:
— The Black Market. Mexico is a virtual arms bazaar, with fragmentation grenades from South Korea, AK-47s from China, and shoulder-fired rocket launchers from Spain, Israel and former Soviet bloc manufacturers.
— Russian crime organizations. Interpol says Russian Mafia groups such as Poldolskaya and Moscow-based Solntsevskaya are actively trafficking drugs and arms in Mexico.
- South America. During the late 1990s, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) established a clandestine arms smuggling and drug trafficking partnership with the Tijuana cartel, according to the Federal Research Division report from the Library of Congress.
— Asia. According to a 2006 Amnesty International Report, China has provided arms to countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America. Chinese assault weapons and Korean explosives have been recovered in Mexico.
— The Mexican Army. More than 150,000 soldiers deserted in the last six years, according to Mexican Congressman Robert Badillo. Many took their weapons with them, including the standard issue M-16 assault rifle made in Belgium.
— Guatemala. U.S. intelligence agencies say traffickers move immigrants, stolen cars, guns and drugs, including most of America’s cocaine, along the porous Mexican-Guatemalan border. On March 27, La Hora, a Guatemalan newspaper, reported that police seized 500 grenades and a load of AK-47s on the border. Police say the cache was transported by a Mexican drug cartel operating out of Ixcan, a border town.
“Well, if not, we will be a fully-communist country complete with roundups and starvation purges and gulags by 2014.”
There is a whole range of possibilities between the two extremes you mention... unfortunately, many are not good and are fairly likely to occur.
These people pull this banning cr*p out every chance they get.
obama should appoint this guy acting vice-president to replace the dain-bramaged Joe Biden.
What percentage of crime in the Southwest USA is traceable to mexican illegal 'immigrants?'
Maybe we should crack down on them first.
When they say “traced to the USA” do they mean they came from the retail market in the US or does it just mean that they were manufactured by an American company?
I know. It IS frustrating, isn't it? All this modern technology and we just haven't been able to come up with anything.
Take heart, though. I'm SURE our benevolent federal government has the BEST minds in the country working 24/7 on the problem even as I type this...
not surprising the Washington Post pushes crap like this.
better info from a cracker jack box.
IF there are any guns going south we should put a stop to it, We need those firearms to stay here, on the border, pointed south.
The author does not deserve to breath free air.
From what I have read, 20% or fewer are actually traceable.
Also, U.S. firearms manufacturers make guns and ship them, legally, to the governments of many Latin American countries, including Mexico (after all, we make some of the best firearms in the world right here in the good Ol’ USA). But I wonder what country THOSE guns are “traced to” when (not if, WHEN) they turn up in the hands of the drug gangs.
Yup. There the guns into Mexico is all BS.
Wow! You must be one of those wackos who thinks the Bill of Rights applies to him, peronally!
PS - The above words were actually, and SERIOUSLY, said to me once by a person who I had previously thought had a b rain.
DITTO! hit the road Jack and don’t come back no more, no more.
Its just a ‘plausible’ excuse for the gun grabbers to promote their agenda. If Congress does pass an assault weapons ban look for it to be far more draconian than the last. I suspect there will be no grandfathering and either you lose your weapons now or when you die. Either way LE has a big problem on their hands.
Also pls recall the sunset of the last assault weapons ban...in retrospect it was shown to be a completely worthless law.
How much of the drugs entering the US are traceable to Mexico. Using Mexican logic cant we blame the traffic in guns on Mexican DEMAND?
It’s the same tired lie the freedom haters parade around.
(sarc)No. Not the WaPo! Say it isn't so....(/sarc)
When can we start decorating lamp posts with these TRAITORS?
I don't understand why the media always calls the tyrants who support gun control "courageous" They're the exact opposite - hiding behind layers of armed securty personnel. I'll go along with the "courageous" appellation if and only if they
Machine guns are so difficult to obtain in the US that it is much easier to smuggle them in from other countries.
This whole visit was nothing but a propaganda campaign set up by the Obamao regime, right down to the planted “poor kid whose parents are in this country illegally” to the horse hockey about the guns.
I have had just about enough out of the lot of them.
Because they're shameless bootlickers, that's why. Useful idiots whose great reward will be the end of a rope. Imagine their surprise.
“Obama administration should ignore America's call to crack down on illegal immigration”
Look up USC Title 18. Section 241 and 242.
If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same;...
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
Every time they start talking about restricting our BoR Protected Rights, we need to find a DA and get Federal felony charges filed.
Obama, of course, is an idiot who has learned nothing about the effects of gun bans. Look at Chicago!
However, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid BOTH told Obama to back off of his anti-gun agenda -— early on.
I think Obama is using the border issue to force the hands of those in his own Democrat Party.
Which -— does kind of help Republicans, in November, does it not?
Thanks for an excellent educational post.
But the bottom line is that if the President of Mexico does not like what is happening on the border, all he has to do is close it from his side.
I would have told him to close the border or close his mouth.
Bang to the top. I hope they try it, combine with an amnesty bill. Invest in popcorn futures.
So...now it takes "courage" to protect a country and it's citizens?
Have daily hangings for these bastards and this crap would stop.
I disagree. Obama know exactly what the effect of gun bans are. They disarm and render helpless the law abiding members of the populace. This is EXACTLY the objective. He doesn't care about crooks. What all tyrants fear is the general populace and people like Timothy McVeigh reating to tyranny in a violent way and thus threatening their power.
Every law that Kongress passes and 0 signs into law is backed ultimately by the death penalty. What politicians hate and fear is that same possibility for themselves. The crooks in our society are not a challenge to the government's power. All they want is to rob and kill a few of us and let the government do the same. If you can effectively defend yourself against unorganized thieves and murders, then you might also be able to defend yourself against the government's organized thugs. This is what they fear.
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