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The Times They Are a Changin’ - Steve Jobs on ‘Freedom from Porn’
California Catholic Daily ^ | May 21, 2010

Posted on 05/22/2010 6:51:56 AM PDT by GonzoII

The Times They Are a Changin’

Steve Jobs on ‘Freedom from Porn’


The following story comes from LifeSiteNews on May 18.

CUPERTINO. Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple Computers, says his company will not be a party to the pornography industry and hopes that the iPad and iPhone revolution will help lead to a porn-free world.

Jobs reiterated his position in a heated e-mail exchange with Ryan Tate, a writer for Gawker.com, which follows news and gossip in Silicon Valley and elsewhere. Tate, who admitted that he was home alone and slightly inebriated at the time, took issue with a television ad calling the iPad a “revolution” and fired off an e-mail to Jobs.

“If Dylan [American songwriter Bob Dylan is one of Jobs’ favorite musicians] was 20 today, how would he feel about your company? Would he think the iPad had the faintest thing to do with ‘revolution?’ Revolutions are about freedom,” Tate wrote, not expecting a response from Jobs.

However, Jobs did respond to Tate, triggering an e-mail duel. “Yep, freedom from programs that steal your private data. Freedom from programs that trash your battery. Freedom from porn. Yep, freedom,” responded Jobs. “The times they are a changin’, and some traditional PC folks feel like their world is slipping away. It is.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apple; education; family; foolemtoday; hypocracy; ipad; iphone; moralabsolutes; outrightlie; pandering; parenting; pornography; snakeoil; stevejobs
Are people jealous of Steve Jobs and Apple?
1 posted on 05/22/2010 6:51:57 AM PDT by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

Another elitist punk who wants to regulate everything.


2 posted on 05/22/2010 6:54:42 AM PDT by library user
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To: GonzoII

Is Jobs kidding?? The only thing that could make the iPad more porn-friendly is to make it waterproof!


3 posted on 05/22/2010 6:56:44 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Think globally, act locally--beat up your neighborhood hippie communist.)
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To: GonzoII

I can’t wait for Google to develop its pad device.


4 posted on 05/22/2010 6:56:48 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: GonzoII
Are people jealous of Steve Jobs and Apple?

No, not at all.

I am done with Apple! iQuit! "Go Linux"

5 posted on 05/22/2010 7:03:36 AM PDT by Willie Green (Klaatu barada nikto)
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To: GonzoII

This is a reprint and repost...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2516456/posts


6 posted on 05/22/2010 7:07:09 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( Ridicule is the best test of truth. - Philip Dormer Shanhope, Lord Chesterfield)
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To: library user
Another elitist punk who wants to regulate everything.

Watch yourself....this isn't regulation. This is enterprise. There is no watchdog agency demanding he do this...it is consumer demand. And I say more power to him.

I'm sick and tired of the filth that flows into my home through the internet etc....I'm sure this may annoy the porn addicts, but I'm sure there will be some enterprising individual to come up with a device to make such trash available in the same manner if the consumer is willing to pay for it.

Freedom is not your wish to get from others what you want, when you want, when you demand it.

7 posted on 05/22/2010 7:11:00 AM PDT by Taggart_D
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To: GonzoII

While I don’t like Apple products, I can respect this stance by Jobs. Won’t stop you from getting porn on your iPad, but does make it one or two steps more complicated. For some that will be enough.


8 posted on 05/22/2010 7:11:31 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: GonzoII

Internet access= porn access


9 posted on 05/22/2010 7:12:25 AM PDT by socal_parrot (I hate to say I told you so, but...)
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To: Taggart_D

Jobs has the right to make a product that blocks porn. I wonder, though, what he considers “porn” to be. Does it include all those “soft” porn videos on Youtube? “Hard R-rated” movies? Where will he draw the line?

Frankly, I’m neither bothered by, nor an addict to, porn. But if I have a choice, I’ll buy the product that gives me the greatest freedom of access to information.


10 posted on 05/22/2010 7:16:24 AM PDT by sand lake bar
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To: library user
"Another elitist punk who wants to regulate everything."

What, a private citizen can't do what he wants with his own company? He can regulate it anyway he chooses.

11 posted on 05/22/2010 7:16:30 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: Taggart_D

Agreed...this stuff has been polluting the country for far too long...it’s not about the first amendment...there is no right to use “speech” to damage or vilify. Back in the sixties the Court somehow made this ok...community standards...only now its about the community of the world.


12 posted on 05/22/2010 7:18:20 AM PDT by kjo
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To: GonzoII
So Jobs is saying that Apple will use their closed architecture to allow only filtered internet now, something they could have done with iPhones, iPads, and iPods from their inception?

Oh He's not?


13 posted on 05/22/2010 7:19:04 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: library user

I might be wrong, but I think that many here are misunderstanding what Jobs is saying. Of course porn can be accessed on the iPad/iPhone. As one reply said access to the internet is access to porn. Jobs’s stand is that Apple will not be a party to the sale and distribution of porn through its distribution of apps via iTunes. It is exactly the same as a drugstore owner deciding that he will not sell adult magazines in his store. If Google makes the corporate decision to be more porn friendly, then I guess the market will decide.


14 posted on 05/22/2010 7:41:12 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: hanamizu
I might be wrong, but I think that many here are misunderstanding what Jobs is saying.

I think you're right.

There's a difference between porn being available and porn being pervasive.

15 posted on 05/22/2010 7:53:08 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: sand lake bar
Frankly, I’m neither bothered by, nor an addict to, porn. But if I have a choice, I’ll buy the product that gives me the greatest freedom of access to information.

Besides, you just read the internet for the articles, right?

:-)

16 posted on 05/22/2010 8:07:44 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: GonzoII

I doubt that I ordinarily agree with Jobs on many political issues, but he is a remarkable and serious person. He has simply out-thought other executives in the tech field. He is right about porno. Apple products come with parental controls, which can be set by parents to block dangerous websites.

If Jobs has a sense of the harm and the degradation associated with porn, he is showing good instincts. Someone who has a hand in creating beautiful devices and good software does not wish it to be used for filth. It may be difficult to control what people do with your creation, but at least you can take a stand.


17 posted on 05/22/2010 8:08:00 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: docbnj
"It may be difficult to control what people do with your creation, but at least you can take a stand."

Well said.

18 posted on 05/22/2010 8:15:06 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: GonzoII

Its interesting how irritated people get when you say you won;t be a party to distibuting filth.
How they point to their “freedoms” being hindered.
Sounds very much luck the Lefts use of the word “tolerance”
Porn has no useful function.
Its NOT healthy.
Its filth.
If you havent got that one figured out yet you are deceived.
The women and men in porn were someones child at some point.
Its powerful in its ability to degrade everyone making and watching it.
More power to Apple on controlling what they will and wont support.
Thoe of you who think they are wrong are strongly invited to make you own ipad like device and use it as you see fit.


19 posted on 05/22/2010 8:28:15 AM PDT by humantech ("No one wants to live to see such evil times. Its what you do with the time you are given")
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Exactly! ;-)

Can I make a confession here? Though I haven’t looked at a copy in 30 years, I began reading (yes, reading) Playboy when I was about 14. It was much tamer then and my parents seemed to have no problem. In high school, as a member of the debate team, I often used quotes from Playboy (political) articles on my evidence cards! I remember one in particular by former Sen. Frank Church (I know, I know) called “The Global Crunch!” (And don’t forget, Playboy interviewed Ayn Rand!)


20 posted on 05/22/2010 9:20:19 AM PDT by sand lake bar
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To: GonzoII

Wow astonished, AMAZED, but can’t say I disagree with Mr. Jobs, Porn only servers to ruin peoples’ lives!


21 posted on 05/22/2010 9:42:18 AM PDT by JSDude1
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To: GonzoII; Swordmaker; Star Traveler
"Are people jealous of Steve Jobs and Apple?"

Read any FR Apple thread for your answer. The anti-Apple vitriol is, at times, nearly incomprehensible...

Apple users can't even discuss technical aspects of their equipment of choice here without being personally attacked -- as "leftists" or "gays" or worse...

If it's not mere jealousy or envy, it is a mental illness...

22 posted on 05/22/2010 9:46:19 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA; GonzoII; Swordmaker
You were saying ...

Read any FR Apple thread for your answer. The anti-Apple vitriol is, at times, nearly incomprehensible...

Yes, it is ... the anti-Apple vitriol oozes from the pores of some posters ... :-)


Apple users can't even discuss technical aspects of their equipment of choice here without being personally attacked -- as "leftists" or "gays" or worse...

Yes, you and me and many other Apple users have been here long enough to know that. It happens all the time.

In terms of this topic alone, with Apple controlling the applications that they distribute in their "app store" -- and eliminating porn from it -- you would think the "porn lobby" invaded the Apple threads at times, with the cries for "freedom from control" (which to me, seems to be "freedom for my porn" ... LOL ... but they don't say it that way, of course).

And at the same time that they are crying for "freedom" [for their porn], yes..., they accuse Apple users of being gay or liberals (aren't those gays and liberals the ones who are using the porn? ... :-) ...)


If it's not mere jealousy or envy, it is a mental illness...

Something is definitely wrong there, with their thinking... that's for sure ... :-)

23 posted on 05/22/2010 10:19:46 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: GonzoII
You were asking ...

Are people jealous of Steve Jobs and Apple?

That may be part of it, too... with Steve Jobs coming back to the company -- and showing those previous CEOs that they were "doing it all wrong" and that they should have never kicked him out of the company in the first place, because Jobs does know what he's doing there.

When Jobs came back, he turned it back to where it was before, when he was running things, and has show how successful Apple can be when it concentrates on making "wildly successful products" -- and not being just "another computer company"...

But, the funny thing about all this "hullaballoo" about the porn restriction on the Apple App Store -- is that these "complainers" put it as "control" that they are against -- however, it's been the same control as always -- from the time that the iPhone was first sold (about three years ago).

What made it really "go bigtime" (in the complaints) was when Jobs said -- "no porn" ... then it exploded and a whole lot of people complained ... LOL ...

So, I think you can see where these complaints are coming from ... it's the "porn lobby" (or the unofficial porn lobby, from the porn users themselves...).

24 posted on 05/22/2010 10:26:06 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: JSDude1; GonzoII
You were asking ...

Wow astonished, AMAZED, but can’t say I disagree with Mr. Jobs, Porn only servers to ruin peoples’ lives!

You should see all the ones posting on these threads about Apple putting on the "porn restrictions" and Jobs saying to those complainers ... "Go to the Android phone for your porn."

They jump all over Apple for restricting the porn on the Apple App Store, and they say that the iPhone is lousy and not worth it and on and on and on ... LOL ...

I guess there are a lot of porn users out there ... :-)

25 posted on 05/22/2010 10:29:53 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: docbnj
You were asking ...

I doubt that I ordinarily agree with Jobs on many political issues, but he is a remarkable and serious person. He has simply out-thought other executives in the tech field. He is right about porno. Apple products come with parental controls, which can be set by parents to block dangerous websites.

It's basically a "good business decision" by Steve Jobs. He knows that it's the average and normal American that buys Apple products. And for those who are overseas, he also knows that they don't want their kids polluted either.

Now, whatever his political ideas are, he basically does not let them get in the way of making good products and also making them so that the majority of the average American will be glad to buy them and have their own familie use them.

Jobs is not going to push "political agendas" through the products that are being sold. He's knows what Americans thinks about this, and he's managing Apple and its products, in that frame of mind.

These are products that families are glad to use and which can be used in schools.

I think a lot of "complainers" are upset that their "agendas" can't be promoted through Apple and their products (like the "porn agenda" for one ...).

26 posted on 05/22/2010 10:36:01 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: library user
You were saying ...

Another elitist punk who wants to regulate everything.

Well..., at least regulate it so that you can't get your porn through the Apple App Store, at least.

And the last time I checked... companies can control what they sell and distribute through their company ... :-)

Like Steve Jobs says, if you want your porn... just go to the Android phone and get all your porn apps there ... LOL ...

27 posted on 05/22/2010 10:39:47 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
"So, I think you can see where these complaints are coming from ... it's the "porn lobby" (or the unofficial porn lobby, from the porn users themselves...)."

Try taking the bottle away from a drunk.

28 posted on 05/22/2010 10:51:16 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: Star Traveler
"Yes, it is ... the anti-Apple vitriol oozes from the pores of some posters ... :-)"...... They're all

Hooked

Get help folks!!
29 posted on 05/22/2010 11:08:22 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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