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To: Gay State Conservative
I work in a prison. Genuine sex offenders and domestic violence abusers can often charm a snake. But their stories start at A, bounce over to D, and never quite reach Z. To a man, they claim innocence. That is how sociopaths operate.

My point is that if a man were innocent, he would avoid troubling others as a way of making amends, keeping to himself until he rebuilt his life. All sex offenders claim to be falsely accused. It's part of the game. But the ultimate desire is to be in proximity to children.

I worked with a man who looked me in the eye and told me he didn't molest his daughter. A jury found otherwise. He claimed to have been persecuted by his ex-wife, who invented the story. His defense was charm, not truth. He's in prison now.

I work as a counselor, and if I had violated one of my female clients, I would have been subject to numerous sanctions and lost my license. How is this guy allowed in the presence of children? Bottom line.

18 posted on 05/23/2010 8:28:58 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Luke21

If he is innocent and was wrongly accused, for what exactly is he making amends?


20 posted on 05/23/2010 8:31:46 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: Luke21

“I work as a counselor ...”

Ah, that explains everything.


31 posted on 05/23/2010 8:58:47 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief (--Jolly Green Giant)
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To: Luke21
My point is that if a man were innocent, he would avoid troubling others as a way of making amends,

So you must be a sociopath then right? You think innocent people should be making ammends? For what?

I think if innocent this guy should probably avoid schools run by a society that terribly let him down. I think the school should not let in someone around other peoples children who society to terribly let down. You never know when they might understandable snap at having their life unfairly ruined. But innocent people making ammends, if a story ever starts at A bounces to D and next quite reaches Z, your right there is the prime example.
35 posted on 05/23/2010 9:19:45 AM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who won't* even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: Luke21
I work in a prison. Genuine sex offenders and domestic violence abusers can often charm a snake. But their stories start at A, bounce over to D, and never quite reach Z. To a man, they claim innocence. That is how sociopaths operate.

Understood.I have no doubt that a huge percentage of those in prison...perhaps 95% plus...are guilty as charged.And I'd wager that a very substantial percentage of prisoners are,in fact,sociopaths.I also recognize that most truly guilty prisoners will proclaim their innocence from the highest mountaintops.

My point is that if a man were innocent, he would avoid troubling others as a way of making amends, keeping to himself until he rebuilt his life.

But why would a truly innocent guy have to make amends or rebuild his life? At least in terms of the crime he's alledged to have committed?

All sex offenders claim to be falsely accused. It's part of the game.

Understood

But the ultimate desire is to be in proximity to children.

Yes,I can see why a pervert would want to be around kids just as I can see why a thief might want to work at a bank.But I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that there are guys (and gals) who *aren't* perverts who derive a certain amount of joy or satisfaction from being around kids as well.

I worked with a man who looked me in the eye and told me he didn't molest his daughter. A jury found otherwise. He claimed to have been persecuted by his ex-wife, who invented the story. His defense was charm, not truth. He's in prison now.

Years ago I worked in the ER of a large Boston hospital.Our ER was the first in the city to form a "rape crisis" team.Its goals were to assist rape victims,physically and psychologically,in all possible ways *and* to collect evidence in such a way as to assist prosecutors as much as possible.The doctors and nurses involved in a particular rape case were often called into court to act as "expert witnesses".Once in a while...but not often...a nurse would come out of the room of such a patient and say something like "she's lying".And these were nurses who were *passionate* advocates for rape victims.The main point I'm trying to make is that while I understand that child molestation occurs and while I assume that the large majority of such accusations are valid my hunch is that,today,a noteworthy percentage of them are,at best,mistaken and,at worst,malicious and criminal.

I work as a counselor, and if I had violated one of my female clients, I would have been subject to numerous sanctions and lost my license. How is this guy allowed in the presence of children? Bottom line.

Not having heard any of the evidence against this guy I can't be sure if he's guilty or innocent.The only three things I know about his case are 1)child molestation *does* occur...2)most *genuine* child molesters will deny their guilt...usually to the bitter end....3)some women can,and *do*,make false accusations to get revenge...or to gain advantage in a child custody case.

37 posted on 05/23/2010 9:45:22 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Luke21
My point is that if a man were innocent, he would avoid troubling others as a way of making amends, keeping to himself until he rebuilt his life.

If you were falsely accused of a child molestation, would you avoid troubling others or would you try to clear your name?

All sex offenders claim to be falsely accused.

Funny thing, those who are falsely accused also claim to be falsely accused.

52 posted on 05/23/2010 12:11:50 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others.)
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