Skip to comments.Berliners dream of return to deutschmark
Posted on 05/23/2010 10:34:29 AM PDT by Frantzie
In the back of the Berliner Republik bar on the banks of the river Spree, Matt, Otto and Christian's eyes are fixed on a screen in front of them. The names and prices of 18 German draught beers flash up, bright green on a black background, and change every few seconds, according to who has ordered what.
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They talk about how Europeans foolishly rushed towards this naive one-europe idea. Sold like Hope & Change and just as bad.
Now the Germans want their D-Mark back and it will happen. Germans even in liberal Berlin are enraged about paying for Greek unionized civil servants.
So we see Greece was a tipping point for the failure of: socialism, big corrupt govt, govt unions, etc etc.
It seems like Europeans are waking up. Maybe they will also wake up to the threat of Islam. What is interesting is America is facing the same dilemma of bankruptcy do to govt workers unions, open borders, etc. I have less confidence here because the idiots are brainwashed by TV.
The 5 TV networks who control 95+% of all the channels are 100% for Obama. Fox/Saudia is not any better because the Saudis bought the white hut in 2008.
Is it any wonder no white caucasians (ie europeans and americans) are having children? Why bring them into a world where they will have to fight like cornered rats for survival?
the first refers to the hyperinflation in Weimar Era.
Really, it is something to seriously think about these days. Pretty sad...
Our future is playing out before our eyes in Europe. It’s too bad so many aren’t paying attention. I guess those of us who are just need to keep shouting out to those who aren’t and try to get them to focus on reality.
How do you stop everyone in Europe from taking all their Euros and changing them into NDM ('Neue Deutschmark')?
It is just like the USA where govt union workers around the country but especially in places like CA, NY(c), DC, IL, MI are gorging while the avg taxpayer is suffering.
The CA govt pensions are broke and other states are in the same boat. Small Conneticut has about an $80 billion unfunded govt workers pension liabilities and 3 million residents.
Americans state and Federal govt liabilities are astronomical compared to Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Ireland, etc.
I forgot to point out that the Guardian newspaper which has always been a lib trade unionist paper is writing a story here on the failures of socialism. They go out of their way to not connect the dots.
Yup. The world also penalizes responsible behavior now. Barbarians will outbreed the people who hold societies together. The moeny is running out now. The responsible people will have to take up arms before it is too late.
Only the X serial numbers come from the Bundesbank
With mausers and lugers?
Interesting, but it would really p off all those Germans holding non-X bills .... and you know what happens when Germans get really p.d off.
Now there's something that catches the eye of anyone who's ever read an Ayn Rand novel.
Their dreams might come true... can’t see the Euro still existing a year from now...
Since 1945, that has been exactly zero. Europe would never allow it - that’s part of the reason the Euro exists.
"With little experience to rely upon and limited theoretical backing, economists and policy-makers had to invent practically everything in little time. Policy-makers rushed to negotiate a detailed agreement, having no time for detailed economic analysis. . . ."
I do remember story after story over the years of the 1950's and beyond that France longed for a way to supplant the dollar -- or at least reduce its influence. The Euro was it. I bet. Nice try -- but we can do that all by ourselves, thank you.
Germans have done exactly zero in response to being p -ed off since 1945. I see them taking the tact of Sweden after the death of Gustavius Adolfus during the Thirty Years’ War from here on out, Russian intervention notwithstanding.
“Now the Germans want their D-Mark back and it will happen. Germans even in liberal Berlin are enraged about paying for Greek unionized civil servants. “
Interesting - the thing that’s REALLY made it easy for the socialists to prevail over there has been the unification of Europe. Split it back up - and we just might see other good things fall into place (like getting back their culture).
I do not engage in “stupid and spineless” European threads as they have not elected Muslims to run (destroy) their country.
After what happened in Nov 2008 - my guess is Europe may outlast another country.
A fried once said we would miss the cold war a lot. The fall of the Soviet Union created a vacuum that Islam filled. Reagan never should have helped the muhajidean that much. He and others ignored 1200 + years of Islam trying to take over the world.
“Reagan never should have helped the muhajidean that much. He and others ignored 1200 + years of Islam trying to take over the world.”
Yes and no. The Cold War was SERIOUS BUSINESS. I remember a report from Dan Rather (before he completely flipped) just after the Wall came down. He was at the Fulda Gap between West and East Germany. That was the expected invasion route for the 50,000 Soviet tanks. It scared the hell out of me. Not to mention Soviet nukes (many still around, unfortunately) that were so big that we chose not to build them - as they served no military purpose other than annihilating a large city and most areas around it. This was serious stuff - I’ll take Jihad ANY DAY over the threat posed by those weapons - particularly if they got a Stalin instead of a Gorby once they had their weapons in place.
“Jihad? You do know you have a Saudi Wahnahabi agent running the United States? He is running the same playbook the Labour Party ran to destroy Englandistan. You do not he will cause irreparable harm. “
Yea - I see your point. I was thinking more in terms of blowing up a few buildings, rather than 90% of the Continental US.
Russians were probably too civilized for that. We are stuck with becoming boiling frogs because the idiots have given the power over their lives and liberty to those who control TV. All 5 networks control all channels and they 100% support Hussein and Islamification.
Amazingly people here have no clue what is really going on. The rest of the public cares about NCAA ball games and beer.
Than Russians and MADD also kept Islam and N KOrea in line.
Very good question. All euro bills are valued the same, whether they are marked ‘X’ or whatever. They’re spread out all over Europe and the world anyway. (It’s not like you change your ‘X’ bills to ‘Y’ bills when crossing a border...)
There was massive fraud when the Ostmark was allowed to be converted to Deutsche Mark. This would open the doors to fraud many orders of magnitude greater. Even if the conversion was tied to citizenship. (”Hey Achmed, since you’ve got a German passport, convert these billions of euros to the new Deutsche Mark for me, will ya?”)
The only viable way I see would be a currency reform like after WW II - everyone gets a few hundred new Deutsche Mark and there you go. Back to square one. Don’t complain, please.
Actually, the wrong kind of response, I think. Millions of Germans should spend their holidays in Greece, charge everything on their hotel room number - and then go back home without paying their bills!
I’m sorry to say.the future lies in India or China. The US has gone the way of Rome and London.
For my benefit.. was the quote I used or my recollection that was “stupid and spineless”? Both?
Ze drem vil finali kum tru.
Very soon German workers are going to grasp that all the financial reserves they piled away the last two decades from not doing what a Spain or Italy did are essentially gone. Someone in Munich worked 40 hours a week until age 67 for someone in Athens not to and for someone in Athens to demand that someone in Munich do so or else.