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'Meet the Press' transcript for May 23, 2010 (Tom Friedman fantasizes about China)
Meet the Prerss ^ | 5/23/10 | Tom Friedman

Posted on 05/24/2010 7:55:18 AM PDT by teddyballgame

MR. FRIEDMAN: Well, David, it's been decimated. It's been decimated by everything from the gerrymandering of political districts to cable television to an Internet where I can create a digital lynch mob against you from the left or right if I don't like where you're going, to the fact that money and politics is so out of control--really our Congress is a forum for legalized bribery. You know, that's really what, what it's come down to. So I don't--I, I--I'm worried about this, it's why I have fantasized--don't get me wrong--but that what if we could just be China for a day? I mean, just, just, just one day. You know, I mean, where we could actually, you know, authorize the right solutions, and I do think there is a sense of that, on, on everything from the economy to environment. I don't want to be China for a second, OK, I want my democracy to work with the same authority, focus and stick-to-itiveness. But right now we have a system that can only produce suboptimal solutions.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communismkills; cwiiping; greenieweenies; ivorytower; nakedcommunist; obamacare; pravdamedia; prodictator; thomasfriedman
Does Friedman realize that China kills and imprison dissenters?
1 posted on 05/24/2010 7:55:19 AM PDT by teddyballgame
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To: teddyballgame

Yes he does. That is what he wants.

He has even written a column about how wonderful the Chinese POLITICAL system is.


2 posted on 05/24/2010 7:56:52 AM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: teddyballgame

Yeah, Friedman, how’d you like to be sent to the gulag and have your organs harvested by one of those Chinese chaos fixers?

Actually, it’s probably already in the small print of Obamacare. Wait for it.


3 posted on 05/24/2010 7:58:28 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: teddyballgame

I posted this exact thing on the sunday talk show thread yesterday. I think he should have to live over there for a little while-under THE LITTLE PEOPLES rules- and let me know how that works out. If his wife gets pregnant, and they already have a kid, what would he think of the right solution there? What about he cannot own a vehicle, except a bike or mule, to go anywhere. How about that clean, unpolluted water he will have to drink from?

These people are nuts. They think that THEY will be able to live like the elites, not like the rest of us. perhaps they should revisit just how much they actually care about the little people if they think CHINA has it going on!


4 posted on 05/24/2010 7:59:17 AM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: Cicero

Hey Friedman, why don’t you go live there.


5 posted on 05/24/2010 7:59:29 AM PDT by teddyballgame
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To: teddyballgame
Internet where I can create a digital lynch mob

Haha. Talk about rhetorical excess, wonder how does it feel to be lynched by a digital mob? Probably not as bad as being a teenager and have 4 busloads of SEI thugs in your yard.

And, I guess you have to be a minority to be lynched, in Freedman's estimation.

6 posted on 05/24/2010 8:02:27 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I would take a digital lynching over a real on any day......


7 posted on 05/24/2010 8:03:49 AM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Friedman - in China they don’t have a freedom of the press, you moron. You’d be out of work.

Do you have more than one child Tom? In China your second child would have been aborted.

Like praying in your synagogue Tom? Nevermind.


8 posted on 05/24/2010 8:05:24 AM PDT by teddyballgame
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To: wombtotomb

I wouldn’t even mind a digital organ harvesting too much.


9 posted on 05/24/2010 8:05:35 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: teddyballgame
And Thomas Freidman is what is considered "an opinion shaper, a thinker, an intellectual heavyweight" in the DC Political/Media machine circles.

It never ceases to amaze one what sub par intellects dominate the US Junk Media machine

10 posted on 05/24/2010 8:06:26 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

LOL. you know we are weak when worried about digital lynchings. We are fat, happy and sheltered folks. This guy needs some experience away from his desk...


11 posted on 05/24/2010 8:06:41 AM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: teddyballgame
This is not even the first time he has said or written how nice it would be if we could be more like China . Ok , but I have to drive .


12 posted on 05/24/2010 8:08:49 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: wombtotomb

“I have fantasized—don’t get me wrong—but that what if we could just be China for a day? I mean, just, just, just one day. You know, I mean, where we could actually, you know, authorize the right solutions, and I do think there is a sense of that, on, on everything from the economy to environment.”

An insight into how liberals think. This coming on the heels of Chrissie Mathews fantasizing about imprisoning oil executives, ala Hug Chavez.


13 posted on 05/24/2010 8:10:12 AM PDT by teddyballgame
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To: teddyballgame

yup. Their ideas cannot work, so they have to have them “authorized” by force. It is laughable that he says right afterwards so he can see democracy work LOL. WHOSE democracy? Not mine, or the 50+ % of the country who he is seeking to impose (authorize) HIS views upon. Sheesh....


14 posted on 05/24/2010 8:13:17 AM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: teddyballgame

I am no Friedman fan, but I understand what he meant. He wrote a column about this several weeks ago. He cited the ability of China to make quick decisions and get things done as opposed to our ever slower legislative process. He made a point of talking about the speed of a Chinese decision to build one of the worlds largest Hydro Electric Dams without regards to environmental impact studies or protecting the rights of displaced farmers etc. In that regard, he made some sense.


15 posted on 05/24/2010 8:14:42 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: teddyballgame
what if we could just be China for a day? I mean, just, just, just one day. You know, I mean, where we could actually, you know, authorize the right solutions,

Easy to "authorize" when you have 1 billion slaves. The US once had slaves. Is that what this clown really wants... slaves?

16 posted on 05/24/2010 8:15:47 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

if these fools in washington would stop creating roadblock agencies (epa, doe, hls, et al.....) there wouldn’t be as much deliberating and hoopjumping required. Congress has created this boondoggle by allowing these departments, with their legions of lawyers justifying their jobs by arguing for all this regulation.

Stop ordering the super duper deluxe sundae with everything, then complain when you get a bellyache. These people are fools.


17 posted on 05/24/2010 8:18:46 AM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: teddyballgame

It’s the same impulse that led our forefathers to ditch the confederacy and replace it with consolidated, supreme power.


18 posted on 05/24/2010 8:20:18 AM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: teddyballgame

Guy is an asshat extraordinaire, but he IS right about this

“really our Congress is a forum for legalized bribery.”


19 posted on 05/24/2010 8:20:34 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: teddyballgame
His book, The World is Flat, includes a full chapter extolling the virtues of Marxism and proclaiming Karl Marx to have been an incredible visionary. You have to read the chapter to fully appreciate the slobbering.

He claims that the previous problem with Marxism was that there wasn't a large enough infrastructure possible to make it work. He's very big on the premise of a command and control economy.

The book is littered with stuff everyone already knew about (taking a Burger King order from another state) and follows up with his proposed solution of mandated government price controls, wage controls, cradle to grave free education and retraining when a job is replaced, elimination of too much or too little profit, and using a slice of the production capacity to create a social safety net.

The guy is a trust fund radical.

20 posted on 05/24/2010 8:25:40 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans

"I have fantasized--don't get me wrong--but that what if we could just be China for a day? I mean, just, just, just one day. You know, I mean, where we could actually, you know, authorize the right solutions, and I do think there is a sense of that, on, on everything from the economy to environment..."

If you listen to the audio of this above quote he fumbles for words as he struggles to say "where we could actually, you know,...er hu (DICTATE) authorize the right solutions..."

I don't want to be China for a second, OK, I want my democracy to work with the same authority, focus and stick-to-itiveness. But right now we have a system that can only produce suboptimal solutions.

He doesn't want to be for a second BUT he fantasizes about it and KNOWS RELIGIOUSLY what the "right" solutions are and that they could be imposed by decree.

I loathe the Commie sympathizing Left who've supported Marxist crap for 45 years. Put THAT in your "Mao's Litle Red Book" and smoke it.

21 posted on 05/24/2010 8:26:30 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: wombtotomb

Another thing that China is doing is modernizing their military at lightning speed while most of our Defense money is supporting two wars. The day will come when they will challenge us as the premptive power in the Pacific while we continue to borrow money from them.


22 posted on 05/24/2010 8:31:29 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
It's been decimated by everything from the gerrymandering of political districts to cable television to an Internet where I can create a digital lynch mob against you from the left or right if I don't like where you're going, to the fact that money and politics is so out of control--really our Congress is a forum for legalized bribery.

This Rat shill said nothing I take it about the Pravda Media's virtual lynching of Sarah Palin including SNL's DAILY programming where they fabricated BS Palin quotes that the dumb masses believed were GENUINE.

The American corporate socialist media (and that is NOT an oxymoron, the politburo hold that while all animals are equal some animals are more equal than others...) has sold out this nation. It is more dishonest than Soviet Pravda at its worst. Ironic that today Russian Pravda is more honest than the US media and Russia's Pravda may not have moved more into credibility, it's just that the US media is completely biased to spin the Rat agenda.

If government is not kept in check by the fourth estate, it's because the Pravda Media is unwilling to be critical of the Obama Administration or Pelosi/Reid's culture of corruption.

Buying legislation approval with pork. Smells like Obamacare to me. Where was the outrage in the media? They chose to lynch the tea partiers with a smear campaign of hate speech and jeers.

Screw Tom Friedman's Socialist agenda.

23 posted on 05/24/2010 8:34:24 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Barack Obama has killed off new weapons development and is decommissioning our nuclear missiles.

President Obama would not have passed a Secret Service background check to even WORK in the White House in any other administration.

24 posted on 05/24/2010 8:35:45 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: Richard Kimball
He claims that the previous problem with Marxism was that there wasn't a large enough infrastructure possible to make it work.

A ponzi scheme only works when you have a big enough pool of suckers.

Socialism works until you run out of other peoples' money.

25 posted on 05/24/2010 8:36:53 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
He made a point of talking about the speed of a Chinese decision to build one of the worlds largest Hydro Electric Dams without regards to environmental impact studies or protecting the rights of displaced farmers etc.

Except Friedman's own agenda would push the same dictatorship on the rights of Americans with regards to "the environment", gas rationing, toilet control, mandates on the types of lightbulbs you use, carbon credits etc.

At least at the end of the day, the Chinese would have a power plant. In America, we would be looted of our cash and the climate would not be impacted positively or negatively for all of our inconvenienced lives.

26 posted on 05/24/2010 8:40:22 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: teddyballgame; Eaker; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; ApesForEvolution; aragorn; archy; ...
Friedman and the other uber-libtards are not interestied in representative govt any more.

They want to just ram their utopia down our peasant throats.

This will not end well.

CW2 Ping


27 posted on 05/24/2010 8:46:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: teddyballgame
You know, I mean, where we could actually, you know, authorize the right solutions,

This presupposes that those in charge are more moral, more intelligent and just generally better than the peons who they rule. I would say that is about as antithetical to the idea of a democratically elected limited government as any idea can be.

Whenever wishing for your government to have power, imagine first what your opponents will do with that power. So Friedman, imagine what would happen if your nightmare version of Dick Cheney had the power to authorize the "right solutions". What happens when Halliburton decides that oil is under your dining room and tears down your house to start drilling? How about when the government decides to tap every phone call, email or pillow talk with your wife? How about if the IRS decides to include waterboarding in its audit procedure because it is the "right solution" to income tax evasion?

My fear of the Patriot Act was "What happens when Hillary gets this power?" I now realize something far scarier.

28 posted on 05/24/2010 8:46:28 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (I am so immune to satire that I ate three Irish children after reading Swift's "A Modest Proposal")
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To: The_Media_never_lie
I'll bring the noose for the digital lynch mob.

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29 posted on 05/24/2010 8:47:14 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (I am so immune to satire that I ate three Irish children after reading Swift's "A Modest Proposal")
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To: Travis McGee

Bush started this sh*t with his “PATRIOT Act”, using the liberal idea of the “seriousness of the charges” to ram down our throats violations of civil rights, all in the name of “national security” while not providing a single act to control our borders nor keep out or deport rabid anti-American foreigners like fanatical Muslims and illegal aliens.


30 posted on 05/24/2010 8:49:33 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Travis McGee

” They want to just ram their utopia down our peasant throats. “

It won’t fly, but it will indeed get ugly.


31 posted on 05/24/2010 8:51:02 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: KarlInOhio
What happens when Halliburton decides that oil is under your dining room and tears down your house to start drilling?

The Leftists on the Supreme Court decided that they CAN do this. Your private property isn't really yours anymore if the community can make more tax money off of it after forcing you to sell it to private company. Welcome the Democrats' fascist America.

32 posted on 05/24/2010 8:56:07 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: Travis McGee
This will not end well.

No, it won't. Those of us who have even a modest grasp of history and an unflinching regard for human nature know that something terrible is heading our way.

33 posted on 05/24/2010 9:24:27 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: teddyballgame
I guess some Freepers have decided it would be fine so long as the “Mussolini” was a tea party member .
34 posted on 05/24/2010 9:51:14 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Yes. Tom may be an authoritarian lover, but we cant seem to get things done because we have too many lawyers in charge and not enough engineers.

here’s an example:
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/05/24/louisana-gov-jindal-blasts-obama-inaction-moves-on-sand-booms/

The governor said he has been forced to protect Louisiana without the approval of the Army Corps of Engineers, which is weighing the ecological impact of the construction of more sand booms.

“We are not waiting for them. We are going to build it,” Jindal said.


Can you believe that? A fix to stop an ecological disaster, and they are ‘studying’ the impact at a time when inaction will be a killer.


35 posted on 05/24/2010 10:02:44 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: Noumenon

Calm before the storm.


36 posted on 05/24/2010 10:55:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: wombtotomb
LOL. you know we are weak when worried about digital lynchings. We are fat, happy and sheltered folks. This guy needs some experience away from his desk...

Since he will never have to worry about an SEI thug home invasion, since he is a democrat media shill, should we let him know what a lynch mob is really like, (digital, of course)?

37 posted on 05/24/2010 10:59:06 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Travis McGee
Calm before the storm.

Agree. End of summer, tops.

The Guns of August.

History has its odd little symmetries, and my gut tells me that it may hold true here.

38 posted on 05/24/2010 11:24:26 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: teddyballgame
We know where Friedman's coming from.
39 posted on 05/24/2010 11:25:33 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: teddyballgame
A few weeks ago, Chrissy Matthews was fantasizing about how nice it would be if America just killed business execs the way China does. This must be a trend among self-worshipping airheads.
40 posted on 05/24/2010 11:57:31 AM PDT by Hunton Peck (RINO: A politician who runs to the right to win, and then says the GOP must move to the left to win.)
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To: Hunton Peck

Actually, I see it was just a few days ago. How time doesn’t fly when you’re marvelling at the psycopathic derangement of leftists.


41 posted on 05/24/2010 12:11:31 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (RINO: A politician who runs to the right to win, and then says the GOP must move to the left to win.)
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To: Noumenon

Could be Korea lights the match.


42 posted on 05/24/2010 12:47:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: a fool in paradise
You're right about this, fool. He wants to BE China for a day - but he wants all the decisions to be cast in stone forever. In short he's a pig. A totalitarian.

How would he like it if one of us wanted to "be China" for a day and outlaw all liberal ideas - forever. What jerks.

43 posted on 05/24/2010 2:27:58 PM PDT by GOPJ (...man was meant to be doubtful about himself, but undoubting about the truth-Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Travis McGee
Could be Korea lights the match.

Very possible. Another scenario: SEIU thugs, in their 'enthusiasm 'for Dear Leader, cross the line and kill someone in a spectacular manner. Won't be a big step from protest/intimidation on the front porch to lynch mobs and Molotov cocktails.

Datapoint: no arrests and not a word from the MSM on last week's little incident. That's more telling than anything else.

44 posted on 05/24/2010 3:22:27 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon
Datapoint: no arrests and not a word from the MSM on last week's little incident. That's more telling than anything else.

The Army and Air Force Reserves have "One weekend a month and two weeks a year".

That incident was the 0bama Civilian Security Force equivalent of "Weekend Drill".

The police escort is a clear example of the power of The State being used to protect the Brownshirts.

45 posted on 05/24/2010 3:48:45 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Travis McGee

This trash is 2 pounds on a 3 pound trigger.......


46 posted on 05/24/2010 7:18:12 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

I’d say.


47 posted on 05/24/2010 7:50:50 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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