Skip to comments.Surprise: Pa. roads getting worse, study says
Posted on 05/24/2010 10:04:45 AM PDT by Willie Green
PITTSBURGH (AP) Pennsylvania's roads are getting worse.
A new report released Monday by the American Society of Civil Engineers says the state's roads get a D-minus grade. That's down from the D the engineers gave Pennsylvania's roads in a 2006 report.
The grade for the state's transit systems also went down, from D-plus to D-minus, while its bridges stayed at a C.
The ASCE says the state's bridges would be worse off if it weren't for stepped up efforts, including the use of $390 million in federal stimulus money for repairs.
But there could still be tough times ahead. Last month, the Federal Highway Administration rejected an Interstate 80 tolling plan that would have brought in nearly $500 million annually for transportation needs.
The 2010 Report Card for Pennsylvania's Infrastructure gave the state an overall grade of D-plus.
They need a study for this conclusion? Oy.
Rendell administration laying the groundwork for increasing taxes and adding tolls.
I can’t imagine how the roads are getting worse. It seems like the ever-diligent PennDOT has 30% of them torn up for resurfacing at any one time.
Why in the world would this be a surprise? Its completely predictable with Fast Eddie in charge.
Good grief these reporters sure do their very best to look stupid.
Civil Engineers grading states based on how much money is spent on Civil Engineers...
Because each stretch of repairs is meant to be a career long project.
I-81 is virtually impassable.
How can that be? I know last summer they were busily ‘fixing’ I81 which stopped traffic for miles. Anyway, the BIG signs said Barry for paying for the jig. LOL!!!! Pls don’t tell me its all a big lie...Barry and the dems wouldn’t do that, would they??? LOL...
Did you ever drive in PA? With all the tolls and “fines-doubled” zones you’d think they might fix a pot hole or two. I think the money is going down a black hole (or, at least, to cover ridiculous pension benefits for public “servants”).
Built-in job security for repair crews!
I have a cousin who's a PennDot Engineer. About 15-20 years ago, PA switched to a new "environmentally friendly" asphalt mixture, which, by the way, degrades far more rapidly and has nowhere near the freeze-thaw resistance of the traditional mixture.
I vaguely recall Dee Thompson yammerin about biodegradable assfault several decades ago.
It had something to do with potholes, a PAT bus and busted axels... or something like that.
Anyway, that never woulda happened back when they had the cobblestones and streetcars anat.
I think the "Burgh oughta bring em back... BOTH of 'em...
And maybe build some new inclines too. There used to be a bunch of them.
How environmentally friendly is the frequent replacement process coupled with backed-up and rerouted traffic pouring their idling fumes into the atmosphere? Methinks it has more to do with providing inflated union jobs.
Could they have the same problem that we have in Wisconsin - they take the gas tax money and use them for non-road use? Or are they taking the gas tax money and using it to subsidize mass transit, like choo-choo trains? Maybe if they actually used the gas-tax money on the roads, the roads would be in better shape.
I have a huge pile of cobblestones in my back acre. They are fabulous ....... scooped from streets in Shadyside and Squirrel Hill .... and are very heavy!
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Yes I drive thru most summers. Between the perpetual interstate work in Wilkes-Barre, the I81 work that shut down 2 of 3 lanes last summer and the nonstop pot hole between Pt. Jervis and the NY state line I have a little experience. The bottom line is no matter how much the state collects the roads will never be appreciably better. LOL, that won’t stop taxes from going up tho and dim voters from believing the shtick. Frankly the electorate of PA seems not too bright....at least many of them.
Yep, right on. Winding up the spin machine to sell a whole bunch of tax increases and tolls. Since that means work for contracting firms this engineering society would be all over that.
Could they have the same problem that we have in Wisconsin - they take the gas tax money and use them for non-road use? Or are they taking the gas tax money and using it to subsidize mass transit, like choo-choo trains?
Pennsylvania has tried 3 times...and been denied 3 times...requests to toll I-80. Mainly because they had planned to use part of the money to subsidize mass transit in Pittsburgh and Philly. Federal law does not permit that. Now they are floating a plan to toll EVERY highway at the point that it enters PA as sort of an Admission Fee. WHAT PART OF “NO” DO YOU CRETINS NOT UNDERSTAND!!!
(the traditional problem has been distribution...Harrisburg and Philly got taken care of, roads in Western PA were left to rot. Jim Quinn from the Quinn and Rose Show did a parody song about this back in his disc jockey days)
That was the asphalt that was going to repave politicians' and union bosses' driveways (at taxpayer expense).
Exactly, Rendell is sending all the Federal Highway funds to Philadelphia to subsidize mass transit, SEPTA.
They are bad after ever DEM governor. I know. I grew up in Selinsgrove and left after 29 years.
What freaking amazes me is that the year after year it seems like many of the same stretches of road are continually being reworked., and yet I never see anything wrong. They just keep reworking the same stretches.
Oh yeah, there you go. A toll road and it is the freaking worst highway in the state!
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